Israeli minister 'warns of Palestinian holocaust'

reply to post by Attari

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If we are going to quote, let’s do so accurately, shall we

"Israel's deputy war minister, Matan Vilnai
Israel's deputy war minister has threatened Palestinians with a 'bigger holocaust' if rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip continue."

REAL LINK

"IF THE ROCKET ATTACKS FROM EH GAZA STRIP CONTINUE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hummm, so we have one country telling another that if it's terrorists-their elected government continues to openly declare war, it will lose the war militarily.

So one country declares war on a more powerful country and whines like stuck pigs when they get the military responses they deserve.

Do I want kids playing in a field killed, NO!
Unlike Muslim terrorists, I think innocents should not be directly targeted, we all know Muslim terrorists almost always target civillaians-ANIMALS.

That said, I find it sick and disgusting, although common, for the terrorists to hide behind civilians, launch attacks around civilians-FULL WELL KNOWING that their WILL BE a military responses to their terrorists actions.

If the people that elected the terrorists as their leaders do not like the results of their leader’s actions, they should remove them and try peace-NAHHH


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Monsoon Israel declared war on the ME and its people before 48 and it is they who deserve what they get. They took over a country that was not theirs to take and have used that as a pretext for continual war in the ME. If they dont like it they can all leave, no one asked them to go there its what they wanted and now they are getting their just desserts.

reply to post by magicmushroom

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They took nothing.

The land was given to them by the UN, given to UN by England.

As for other lands, it was acquired when Israel defeated several Muslim countries at once.

I believe "GAZA" was Jordan’s, before they tried a failed attack on Israel.

Since it was part of Jordan, Jordan may have something to say, but not Palestinians.


"if they don't like it they can leave"

How about if the Palestinians don't like it "THEY" can leave!!!!!!!!!1

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For whatever it's worth. I think the question over Israels right to soverenity is about to be decided....REAL soon.

I'm sure the whole world will be watching.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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The same 'millitary' can't even get rid of hamas,hezbollah etc..
The only thing they can do is deliberately aim at kids playing on the playground and kill a couple of them in retaliation of 1 Israeli dead.

If they are terrorists than what excuse does that give to the Israelis to act as a terrorist state aswel?

Those terrorists live within civillians,you don't expect them to make their own battleground and challenge Israel to drop a cluster bomb on them.

Hamas won the the elections by surprise with the Palestinians behind them.Doesn't that tell you something?

We are talking muslims here.These people rather die than surrendering what ever they have left to Israel and plunging into the sea.

Israel is the immigrant terrorist state that has terrorized nations around it from the start.

If terrorists don't want peace than why does't Israel take the first step towards 'peace'.Not not the sugar coated fake Anapolis peace!I am talking about giving the Palestinian lands back the Isarelis have stolen.

reply to post by magicmushroom

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Your understanding of history is not correct. Israel was created by the United Nations - they did not take the land. The day after Israel was created by the UN the surrounding Arab nations declared war on them. I am not trying to justify anything done by Israel, but to be historically correct it was the Arab nations that attacked first - not Israel. If you are really looking for someone to blame you should look no further than the United Nations.

I would also like to remind everyone who is accusing the Jews or Christians of wanting to control the world that they should take another look at Islam. One of the basic beliefs of Islam is that all people everywhere must either join up or be killed. Please be so kind as to show me where it says that anywhere in the Bible - you will not find it.

You should note that I am not calling anyone Anti-Semitic. I am just trying to separate facts from common misconceptions.

First of all totally agree with the following post:

However there are other things in this thread that are wrong/funny .at least as i see it:
This idiot is A Deputy Minister. Deputy minister is not Senior Minister,and definetly not a prime minister.
Doesn't make him smarter....But gives hope that minister of defence who IS Seniour minister is not as foolish.
Now here is funny part:

Well how should you react if you read the following:




Substitute Jews with your nation and try to find facts that are there to contribute to the thread, not to express "pro"-Jewish feelings....

Also,would like to know what holocaust Israel is doing now? It is armed conflict escalating due to the wishes of Palestinian leadership.
And their are lucky to have such an "intelligent" and "dangerous" opponent as Matan Vilnai.
My predicition - due to pressure by public (me encluded) to stop these rockets our government will run operation in northern Gaza, civilians casualties on both sides will rise, and with international interference temporal cease fire will be agreed upon again till Hamas again decides that conflict is more suitable to them. I want to remind you that there were talks of certain agreements between Israel and Fatah before all hell broke lose.

Hmmm your understanding of history is quite incorrect.Its quite the opposite of what you stated.If you do abit more research you will find that the Zionists 'Stern gang' terrorized the Arabs and the British with mass bombings first.



Now can you give me Solid evidence that Islam states you either make people Muslims or kill them?
Forget 'anti-semitic',you are clearly being anti-islamic there my freind.

reply to post by Attari

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Now this is just twisting the truth ,isn't it. I think that when the brave terrorists will stop using their future- their kids -as a personal armor/bodyguards then peace could be achieved - sugar coated or not.
Right now the leaders of these people claim to love death more then life, and allow their kids to die for them, while accepting toughest task - living with highest level of luxury available to poor people of Gaza.
In truth ,no one cares for wellbeing of simple people in Gaza (children or adults). Not Hamas, nor Arab countries. UN resolutions are there to danage Israel, not help the people. So why Israel should worry for people who declare that Israel is their enemy?

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

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Yes of course you are very right! Israeli apache helicopters can shoot anti-tank missiles on playgrounds...ohh but those are not kids..they are future terrorists who think israel is a enemy.

reply to post by Attari

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Well, I admit, it difficult to find murdering terrorists who wear no uniform and hide in and among civilians. (This is why their are often high civilian casualties)

Sure they can easily win, just shoot everyone they run into instead of going through painful measures to protect innocents/civilians.
(Going through great pains to avoid this does not mean it does not happen).

"If terrorists don't want peace than why doesn’t Israel take the first step towards ‘peace’?
THEY DID!!!!!

Ariel Sharon ceded land to them. What they did was tear apart a Jewish temple-and they expect their religious temples to be respected- and move the rocket launchers that much closer to Israeli civilian centers.
The Muslim terrorists have clearly shown what they will do with that option.

It is almost laughable, if it were not so sick, that you defend the terrorists shooting rockets and more from in and around civilians, and blame Israel for responding to the terrorists attacks-KNOWING full well that when the terrorists and their weapons are destroyed, civilians will be injured and killed.

It guy Im not wrong, before ww1 the whole of the ME was part of the Ottoman Empire after we got rid of the Turks we promised the Arabs their own nations. The Balfour decleration 1917 made before the UN even existed called for an independant state of Israel. After they helped us clearing the ME of the Turks we sold the Arabs down the river and thats why the conflict started. After WW2 we allowed the Jews of Europe to settle in what was Palestine, the land was taken by force by Jewish terrorists and that land is still being held by Jewish terrorists.

Those are the facts of the matter and anyone with a brain would have questioned why we allowed that to happen knowing full well that it would incite war in the region for decades to come. The grand plan was to get people of the Jewish faith out of Europe by giving them their own country when the country in question was occupide by the Palestinians at the time.

The people behind this did not and do not give a toss for the Jews or Arabs, they will be quite happy if they both wipe themselves out because all they are interested in is the oil, thats what ww1 was all about oil supplies and just as then like now we dont care who dies as long as we get the oil. The day it runs out we will turn our backs on the Jews, Arabs and all the rest of it.

reply to post by Attari

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Lets try to reverse it - it is OK for Palestinian fighters for freedom to shoot rockets at civilians from children playground ,to make sure that whoever will be killed - it's not them?
I want MY government to care for MY safety before taking care of safety of foreign population. Palestinians have their government to care for them.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge

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I agree with you.

Sadly, we all see how the terrorist Hamas takes care of it's people.

People the historical accounts of the Jewish-Palestine conflict goes as far as the 19 century.

This side of the story is what has been fed to American and anybody around as the truth.

When the Jewish move into the land of the Palestine to reclaim their ancestral land they bought it and pay for it.

They build their jewish community and were no welcome by the Palestinian Arabs, they were forced to defend themselves and this is the conflict that we see today

Well that is not really true.



See how different the accounts are, so which one will you believe in, taking into consideration the violent beginings blessed by their God that the Israelis have.

This site gives a historical account of the confict.

Jews for Justice in the Middle East

www.cactus48.com...

Please don't even start there! The rockets the terrorists fire miss most of the time and even if they hit,they probably just kill one or two.

When Israel responds it kills about 50:1 ratio.

Big difference my jewish freind..

reply to post by Attari

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So let me get this right:

Since the Muslim terrorists have inferior weapons to the country they are attacking, that makes their attacks ok???

Since Israel has a much more powerful military and it responds with it to the terrorist attacks, it is wrong???

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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Yes very laughable ! But not very laughable when YOU get serious about supporting zionists who are planning to commit genocide and continuing the episode of holocaust.

Oh, this statement is a screamer. So, what you're saying, Attari, is that the militants, because of their lack of aptitude for coordinates, have to fire many more missiles to ensure one good strike (compared to Israli skills in this matter). Or, taking your logic further, terrorist militants simply must cross the border with explosives strapped to their chests--in order to get up close and personal---making every bit of shrapnel count?

If the Palestinians are so concerned about safe-guarding the lives of ALL little children then why, do they target groups in family settings? Why not take your bobby-trap to the nearest govt. building, mil. outpost?

Well......it's all good! Right.

reply to post by Attari

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I am flattered that you call me friend, but puzzled by something.
You are the third person who ,when i argue with him, calls me Jewish friend. Is it better then simple friend ,or worst?

The fact that rocket misses makes it cool? It is OK to shoot at your Jewish friend, as long as it misses? And what if it hits, you will lose a friend then.
I do not want to be shot at, i do not like playing Russian rulet.
No rockets - no reason for respond. Not to mention that the friend is safe.