Israeli minister 'warns of Palestinian holocaust'

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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Your world is just too black and white. Things in life do not function this way you think it is. Hamas can not be absolute evil in this part of the world and can be responsible for every single death that happens in Palestine. It does not work this way. Yet you showed the perfect example of those people, who do actually cheer when Palestinian "Animals" die - maybe not out loud, but quietly in yourself. You say to your self, that they probably deserve it. It is a win/win situation. When Palestinian children get killed, Hamas - which are also People of Palestine - are to blame. When Israeli children get killed, also People of Palestine are to blame. It is kind of like U.S. troops in Iraq. And that is probably the reason why you support this kind of actions in Gaza Strip - well actually I shall call it this kind of Genocide. But you do not seem to realize, that violence always gives birth to more violence.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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the appaling bigotry supports this very thread and the very first post

it is amazingly sickening that we have filthy animals that believe this line that the girl died was her own fault by proxy of where she lives and nothing to do with the sick scum that pulled the trigger that murdered her.

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reply to post by Souljah

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"Your world is just too black and white. Things in life do not function this way you think it is."

I have lots of proof as to what I say.
The fact that you don't question it means you also know these facts.
I have seen you provide no valid proof-your unsupported opinion, is allowed here, as long as it clear that is simply an unsupported opinion, is not proof.

It really is that simple.
The Hamas launch attacks from schools/playgrounds/homes/farms and these areas get military responses to the Hamas attacks.

If they didn't attack or even launched their attacks away from civilians, their civilians would not be hurt.


"Hamas can not be absolute evil in this part of the world and can be responsible for every single death that happens in Palestine. It does not work this way."

The facts disprove that.
"IF" they did not attack Israel, they would not get military responses.
It is that simple.
Only pure evil would put 5 year old in a bomb belt and send it out in the hopes that when the child dies, it kills others-PURE EVIL.
Only Pure evil would cheer over the death of innocents-we have lots of news showing them doing so, many times over.

"Yet you showed the perfect example of those people, who do actually cheer when Palestinian "Animals" die - maybe not out loud, but quietly in yourself.”

You did not show any examples of Jews/Israel cheering over civilian deaths.

Also, Personal attack, , next....................


"You say to your self, that they probably deserve it."

I have never said that in posts or feel it "inside".
Also, Personal attack,, next......................................................

"When Palestinian children get killed, Hamas - which are also People of Palestine - are to blame."

I fully agree with you.
If the Hamas did not launch attacks on Israel it would not get responses.
If Hamas did not launch attacks from schools/homes/farms/children’s play grounds... the children would not have been killed.
They is not and has never been a Palestine.
Gaza or the Gaza strip was in possession/control by Egypt when it lost the land in the 7 day war with Israel-basic history-hundreds of links available at request.

"When Israeli children get killed, also People of Palestine are to blame."

Yes, it is the Hamas's fault when they launch rocket and mortar attacks, intestinally targeting civilians.

"well actually I shall call it this kind of Genocide."

You would be wrong, unless, of course, you are referring to what the Hamas bring upon the people of Gaza.
It is sick that the Hamas launch attacks from civilian area's full well knowing they will get a response to their rocket attacks.
It seems you hope to color the facts by throwing "buggie" terms about, it changes nothing.

"But you do not seem to realize, that violence always gives birth to more violence.
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True, the Hamas violence will always give birth to military responses, back at them.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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you support and advocate the murder of children, openly in all your words.

*ignored*

reply to post by Harlequin

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"the appaling bigotry supports this very thread and the very first post "

So it is bigotry pointing out that Gaza suffers military responses from its military attacks?
Seems more like a strong need to take responsibility for its actions and the reactions that they cause.

"it is amazingly sickening that we have filthy animals that believe this line that the girl died was her own fault by proxy of where she lives and nothing to do with the sick scum that pulled the trigger that murdered her."

Personal attack, , next..................
I fully challenge you to see where it was posted by anyone that it was the girls fault-I know never done
I fully challenge you to show "ANY" proof that the bullet that killed the girl was not from Hamas.
I challenge you to show "ANY" proof that "IF"!!, it came from an Israeli sniper, that it was done on purpose
Of course we all know no proof exists, it is just an unsupported opinion.

"crawl back under the rock you have come from, slime . your jack boots are in the corner with the long leather coat where you left them."

Personal attack,,next....................


So, it seems when facts are not available to prove an opinion, resorting to personal attacks proves your point????

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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Interesting....no palestine?

israel is the immigrant terrorist state that has been terrorizing since its creation.

With such deadly israeli millitary operations its no surprise hamas seems to get more and more palestinian support.

Soon we will see gas chambers being used,but i guess zionist supporters would not give 2 $%^ about it.

reply to post by Attari

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I see you post no support or proof, so it is just you unsubstantiated opinion.

You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but at ATS, if you have no proof, expect your opinion to be ripped apart.

"With such deadly Israeli military operations its no surprise Hamas seems to get more and more Palestinian support.
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Yes, they are cleaver in getting support-in a sick way.
They launch rocket and mortar attacks from children’s schools and play grounds, home/farms and from large groups of civilians.
They full well know that their rocket and mortar launching sites will get military responses.
Clearly, they do it on purpose.
The more people in Gaza that the Hamas get killed and injured, the more they can get uneducated people to support their terrorist attacks.
So I just want to get this straight, the Hamas attack, get a response and it is the response and not the attack that is to blame????

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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Well israel should allow them get educated and stop cutting basic supplies.



IF israel gives the palestinian lands back there would be no attacks.israel keeps stealing more and more lands and dont expect palestinians to respond?

reply to post by Attari

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"Well israel should allow them get educated and stop cutting basic supplies. "

Why is it Israel’s responsibility to provide basic supplies and education, they Gaza citizens, have an elected government-admittedly terrorists who care nothing for them.

Since their (Hamas) government is at war with Israel, please explain why Israel should supply anything to its enemy?????

Yes, of course, we understand it is Hamas and not the Hamas victim civilians that cause suffering, (a horrible thing).

It is the civilians controlled by Hamas terrorist that are the victims of Hamas, as well as civilian victims in Israel.

So there we have it, Hamas directly and indirectly cause nothing but death and misery for all civilians.

"IF Israel gives the Palestinian lands back there would be no attacks.israel keeps stealing more and more lands and dont expect palestinians to respond? "

It was never "theirs" to begin with.

As has been shown, over and over again, Gaza or the Gaza strip "was" controlled by Egypt until the land was lost to Israel in the 7 days war.

Also, Israel did try ceding some land to them and what were the results:

The terrorists just moved their rocket launchers and mortars that much closer to the Israeli boarder.

They also destroyed a synagogue stone by stone-while expecting "their" religious temples to be respected.

Clearly, that does not work, and need not be tried again.

Since the Hamas/Gaza citizens cheer over civilian deaths, it is clear what animals are being dealt with and equally clear (IMO) who “NEED" to be dealt with.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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Apparently your knowledge of Palestine is very low. Perhaps you should read some history and find out what the roots of Palestine are. In any case, they all descent from same local inhabitants, and both Israelis and Palestinians share the same genetic material. And if you look at them, they do look very alike. Just don't say that out loud, infront of any member - they both shall be insulted.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

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Ok, you want a proof of israeli soldiers genocide?
You don't remember Palestine Father and very young Son caught in a cross fire between israeli and Palestinians and was waving for them to stop firing.
He was exposed to israeli side and from just 20 meters away in front of live cameras first his Son then he himself was executed in a cold blood. Everyone saw blatant kill and execution by israeli soldiers and ask for immediate action against them and sanctions but US (zionists) run government vetoed like other 600 broken UN resolution by same illegal country. As they say in US: wake up and smell the coffee.
If you want me to supply that video and photos I will but will realy HATE to prostitute that genocide publicly even though it is already well documented all over the place.
Open your eyes and senses.

reply to post by Apolon

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Perhaps those pictures and video can sit next to the bloody seen from the Palestinian who murdered 8 boys in school.

It can also be placed by pictures of women/children and old people who were blown apart by suicide bombers.

I strongly suspect, if we had ALL the facts of your one case, we would find it is probably nothing like what is claimed.

Is it possible atrocities were/have been done-anything is possible?
When you deal with people who cheer for deaths and always target civilians for murder, it is possible that some men snap.
Is it right, no-never.
Is it understandable, YES!!!

reply to post by Souljah

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It seems my history is better than some.

It is a matter of record, that Gaza or the Gaza strip was owned/controlled by Egypt.
It was lost by Egypt to Israel in the 7 day war.
( I will happily provide link after link showing this fact-if requested)

It was NOT a country.

It was not owned/controlled by Palestinians-so "they" lost nothing; it was Egypt that lost land.


[edit on 3/13/2008 by mrmonsoon]

Only one of hundreds well documented stories. 4 years ago israeli terrorist settler shot dozens of people while they prayed in Mosque. Never heard of that?
The most freakish thing is that almost whole country is going to his grave and praying for his soul and thanking him for doing it. israeli politicians still didn't called him a terrorist but slightly disturbed young Man

" A gunman described as a Jewish settler opened fire early today on Muslims praying at a holy site shared by Jews and Muslims, killing at least 13 Palestinians and wounding more than 60, reports said.

Israel Radio said the man was a settler dressed in an army uniform who opened fire on Muslims praying in a crowded mosque at the Tomb of the Patriarchs, the site where Abraham is believed buried. Reports from Palestinians said the settler was overpowered and killed by people in the crowd.

Both Jews and Muslims worship at a mosque and synagogue there.

An Israeli soldier turned an Associated Press reporter away from the mosque, saying: "Go away. We've killed 30 Arabs."

Reports from Palestinians said more than 60 people were wounded and taken to two different hospitals in Hebron, a city of 50,000 that lies 20 miles south of Jerusalem.

Nasser Ghazali, who was praying at the mosque, said: "We were praying and we heard a lot of shooting. Somebody shouted 'the settlers are attacking.' "

Some more link of thousends available:

www.voicesofpalestine.org...

www.rense.com...

All these israeli sponsored terrorists acts are KNOWN and RECORDED everywhere but zionists are holding US and UN by the balls and no attack on israel have yet occurred as a punishment for killing and exterminating Palestinians and killing jundreds of British, French, Egyptians ..



[edit on 15-3-2008 by Apolon]

reply to post by Apolon

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Do I need to place link after link of all the murdering the Hamas terrorists have done.

We all know the Hamas murdering list is like the to be saved list on ships-“women and children first”.

Further, we all have seen the Animals cheering openly in the streets over the murder of civilians.

I am sorry that Gaza has victims due to the inhuman actions of their Hamas terrorists.

Should I post picks of innocents who were blown apart by the Muslim terrorists?

Before anyone gets up on their high horse, they should be sure the Muslims they support are not murdering animals who care nothing for their neighbors and nothing for their people-as they take action's assured to kill them.

Shall we discuss the Muslim animals sending a 5 year old child with a bomb belt walking over to a check point in hopes of murdering people?
(Sick animals-lower than animals.)

My post was clear and precise where you keep repeating your exact same rhetorics again and again with no answers to the questions!
You CLAIMED that israeli soldiers are defending the country and never terrorize Palestinians that's what other side does, RIGHT?
I proved it to you it is state organized terror over civilians and also supported by crazed israeli terrorists in the same time by above stories.

1. Is it true that israelis are visiting that crazed terrorist grave and are praying and thanking him for the slaughter? think hard for the answer because I will suply video of the grave and them gathering and praying.

2. Is it true that israeli government refuses to call him a terrorist?
Instead he is little disturbed man. If someone from Palsetinian side does it I think they are labeled with a brand of a terrorist.

3. Is it true that Son and Father were executed in a call blood with video proof from Euro TV crew?
If you want that too you'll have it.

4. Isn't it known fact and true that israel was formed on terrorism by it's future prime minister? You will have the name of the Hotels, places and names of the Brits, French and others killed if you wish displayed here publicly. You have to prove that is not the case remember that.

leave Hamas aside and answer very specific questions raised above.
We know your opinion on Hamas. You are repeating it every time. Just your precise answers on very precise questions please.
That is the only way we'll get somewhere. Next you can ask me and others some specifics instead of using general preconceived opinions about Palestinians and the rest of us and I will answer them the best I can.
Thank you in advance.

reply to post by Apolon

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1) no link, no proof-Just your unsupported opinion (which you are welcome to)
2) Are you are refering to the murdering muslium terrorist who killed 8 students in cold blood-typical of muslium terrorist?
Again, no link, no proof-just your unsupported opinion.
3) Again, unsupported opinions.
4)Actually, i need not prove anything.
You as trying to make an unsupported point, have the full burden of proof.


Ok, that done, lets have some news on the wonderfull religion of peace:

"3/26/2008 (Helmand, Afghanistan) - Eight shoppers at an outdoor market are blown to bits by a Taliban car bomb.
3/26/2008 (Jowhar, Somalia) - Mujahideen kill at least seven Somalis in an attack on an agricultural town.
3/25/2008 (Swat, Pakistan) - Islamic militants gun down a married couple as they are standing outside their home.
3/25/2008 (Swat, Pakistan) - Two people are murdered by suspected al-Qaeda.
3/25/2008 (Bajaur, Pakistan) - A man is killed in a landmine attack by suspected Islamic militants.
3/25/2008 (Basra, Iraq) - Thirty-three people are killed when a Shiite militia attacks government troops."
Link to articles on "peaceful religion"







[edit on 3/26/2008 by mrmonsoon]

So, as I was afraid, no answers just repeating your hatred towards Muslims in general.
This is where I wash my hands of you young Man. I have no desire for further empty and meaningless barrage of letters.

reply to post by Apolon

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When you are down to nothing but personal insults and lies-you are correct, the discussion with "you" is over.

reply to post by Apolon

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Two things:
1) The Jewish terrorist who killed a lot of people in Hebron is condemned by Israeli society. The Arab terrorist is not. Candy and other signs of joy kind of show that. Also, it did not happen 4 years ago, not the first time that figures are disregarded/wrong in posts. It happened at 1994.
2) I do not say that there are no sickos among Israeli military/citizens.
However the shooting of kid and father (which is horrible) has all the elements of a conspiracy. If you want you can read this:
www.haaretz.com...
I simply do not understand why soldiers from besieged ,shot at, stoned,torched outpost continued shooting at these two totally innocent people for half an hour.
And kids playing wounded/dead in an unedited version of this film. And no bullets/autopsy. And it being used to make 2000 intifada larger.... Several experts (not only IDF) claiming that shots could not be from Israeli outpost and ctr.
You also can say that it is "Zionist" propaganda, but the camera man who filmed it all and claimed at first that it was IDF who killed them is Palestinian.