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Topic started on 29-2-2008 @ 05:30 AM by Attari
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Israeli minister 'warns of Palestinian holocaust'
www.guardian.co.uk
 A senior Israeli minister today warned of increasingly bitter conflict in the Gaza Strip and that the Palestinians would bring on themselves
what he called a "holocaust".
According to Reuters news agency, Matan Vilnai, Israel's deputy defence minister, used the Hebrew word for holocaust in an interview on Israeli army
radio.
The term is rarely used in Israel outside discussions of the Nazi genocide during the second world war. Many Israelis are loath to countenance it to
describe other eve. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 05:30 AM by Attari
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Israelis rarely use that term for anything other than the genocide of their people. So for him to use the term about Gaza raises serious concerns.
I do think that there is likely to be an invasion of Gaza at some stage.
I didn't expect it to come soon though reading this article I am not so sure.
www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 05:34 AM by Harlequin
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so he`s saying that israel would slaughter every man,woman and child - and attemopt to wipe them off the face of the earth
but its there own fault ?
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 05:41 AM by Attari
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so he`s saying that israel would slaughter every man,woman and child - and attemopt to wipe them off the face of the earth

Shouldn't be really surprised!
If it wasn't for the international community watching Israeli actions closely,they would have slaughtered the Palestinians time ago.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 05:45 AM by Harlequin
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so many of the words being said by israel now are a direct repeat of germany 1936 onwards its disgusting.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 06:29 AM by skribal
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It really is terrible, for every thirty or so palastinian militants killed, about a hundred or so palastinian civilians are killed.Palastine says
"stop killing our people" and Israel says "stop throwing rockets"
Meanwhile the other arab nations sit back and don't do anything except to stir the pot every so often.While Israel is busy with palastine at least
there is "peace" elsewhere.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 06:35 AM by andy1033
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Strange parellels between then and now. America like germany going down the pan, just looking for a saviour, and here comes there cult figure to take
over the world, in obama.
Deja vu, all over again, and now israel are talking about a holocaust in gaza.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:24 AM by bodrul
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seeing as Majority of Israelii supporters Blame Palestinians for everything
you really think any of them would care if Israel slaughterd every man, woman and child in the occupied land?
to them it would just mean Israel getting control of what is supposeidly theirs.
and others their religous prophercy being forfilled
they already condone the death ratio of 1 israeli to 30+ palestinian cuvilian
the whole population isnt really going to make diffrence. and doubt if this did happen anything would happen to Israel.
maybe a few countries condeming them and maybe a few UN resolutions that would most likely be blocked by the US/UK.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:50 AM by Harlequin
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im sorry but i have to do this:
 seeing as Majority of Germany supporters Blame Jews for everything
you really think any of them would care if Germany slaughterd every man, woman and child in the occupied land?
to them it would just mean Germany getting control of what is supposeidly theirs.
and others their religous prophercy being forfilled
they already condone the death ratio of 1 german to 30+ jew cuvilian
the whole population isnt really going to make diffrence. and doubt if this did happen anything would happen to germany.
maybe a few countries condeming them and maybe a few League of Nations resolutions that would most likely be blocked by the US/UK. 
now how much of a change is that to modern day i wonder.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:55 AM by bodrul
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 Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. - Winston Churchill
good edit
back then it was Germans and their belief that they were arion race or something, chosen by god to be the highest of all races
and now we have the same thing 50 years later but the children of the Victims of the Germans taking the same stance.
edit: wounder how it will take for the usual crowd to jump in and start screaming ant-semetic
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:01 AM by kosmicjack
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This whole issue disgusts me. It boggles the mind that Israel can't see the parallels in it's collective experience to Palestine's current
situation. It's absolutely ignorant.
The bombastic talk coming from Israel now is completely callous and shameful. How long will the Western world continue to support such behavior? If
there were no oil in the Middle East and we weren't concerned about a foothold or ally there, I am quite sure we would be condemning their actions
and calling for U.N. sanctions. We might even be making stuff up about weapons of Mass Distruction - oh wait - they already have those.
edit to add - I am sick of our self-serving, cherry-picking, hypocritical world diplomacy, it's no wonder virtually everyone hates us.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:05 AM by Harlequin
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Sadly in 2008 Gordon Brown (and Tony blair before him) practise a policy of appeasement - much like Neville Chamberlain did with Hitler - Chamberlain
gave Hitler Czechoslovakia.
and for those who don`t know what Appeasement means:
 Appeasement is a policy of accepting the imposed conditions of an aggressor in lieu of armed resistance
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:08 AM by DimensionalDetective
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Originally posted by bodrul
edit: wounder how it will take for the usual crowd to jump in and start screaming ant-semetic
[edit on 29-2-2008 by bodrul] 
Not long. Any time anything remotely unfavorable is posted about Israel's behavior around here, there will usually be half a dozen folks jumping on
the thread hooting and hollering about how people "hate the jews". It's like the whole world turns a blind eye to them because they were once
victimized. Because of that they can do no wrong, it's "everybody elses fault", and they get one free pass after another.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:10 AM by marg6043
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When you have a nation that from the beginning of time and written in their religious sacred book that their mission in earth is blessed and
commanded by their God they should follow their God's orders or else.
The old testament is full of such commands and it seems that our friend the Israeli Minister wants to bring again their religious rights to do a
"holocaust" on the Palestinians.
I wonder if he can do this in the name of religion.
God instructed the Jews that when they invaded the territory that God had granted to them, as for the inhabitants, "you must utterly annihilate
them. Make no covenant with them nor show them compassion!" (Deuteronomy, Chapter 7.) God instructed the Jews that, when confronting other people
who lived on land other than that granted to the Jews, they could give them an offer of perpetual slavery for their whole population, or else they
could kill all the males and take the women and little children as slaves. (Deuteronomy, Chapter 20.) God set rules for male Jews who desired to take
a wife from among these captives. (Deuteronomy, Chapter 21.)
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:12 AM by mybigunit
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We have to sit back remember we are the ones who put Isreal there in the first place. I for one am sick of fighting their wars and I believe one of
they reason these extremists hate us is because of our support for Isreal. But the fact is we put them there and now we are getting the
blowback......another failed policy that is costing us.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:33 AM by kosmicjack
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I'm not sure what to make of your post.
I mean it really does get to the root of the matter... Either one is completely horrified by the noted religious substantiations or one is inspired.
Interpretation and perception is everything and it's exactly why the world is in this hot mess - the parties are looking through the distorted lens
of religion and politics and not the true view of humanity.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:47 AM by marg6043
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Well my post is to show that religion is one of the root problems that relate to our world, wars and Rights of one group of people over other one.
This goes for many major religions we know.
If you read the old testament is very clear that its about the Israeli people and their relationship with their God.
Their god that happens to become later the Christian God that is worshiped in the US after the expected messiah gave the Israelis the right to do as
their God wish by command.
Or else their God will become angered against their people the Israelis.
The passage of the bible in my post is not the only one instruction from their God the Israelis have about dealing with their enemy.
Is many more and all include the annihilation of the enemy.
My question is if the Israeli minister will use the rights given to his people by their God to take their enemies and if this will be seen by the rest
of the Christian world as right.
It is rather interesting how the Prime minister use such very strong words that also reminds everybody of one passage of the most unforgettable part
of the Jewish history.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:48 AM by magicmushroom
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Yes the Jews are paving the way arent they for the total destruction of the Palestian people with the conivance of the UK/US. When its all over will
will see war trials for those who commited these acts.
Why have we come to this juncture, is it because the Jews control the money supply, that they infiltrate all levels of Goverment, there must be some
reason for this.
But what will this mean for the World, another World War is that our destiny nothing but war and more war.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:57 AM by Attari
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For the Israelis to use that term means that obviously those in charge in tel aviv really are NAZIS......
It reminds of German ultimatum to Poland. Anyway, Zionists' methods are slightly different. They have already started the Holocaust before announcing
it.
I wonder what the reaction of the western press had been had similar language been used by say Ahmedinejad. No doubt he would have been made out to be
barbaric whilst these "so-called" jews can say it at will without an eyebrow being raised.
I think they as a "race" have some psychological issues..its like a child who was beat up by his parents or abused or whatever when he/she grows up
they are prone to do the same due to the trauma..
but to think a whole nation would fit that pattern is just scary..
This is a disgrace for current global political system. Not a single "eh" from UN,US,EU!! The real sad fact is that Israel has entred a new stage of
it's life. It can explicitely violate all laws which are extremely enforced on other countries. I can't imagine any country in this world which is
capable of threatening this way and violate many Int'l laws and not being condemned or boycotted.
Nazis did Holocaust while all countries were opposed, Israelis are/will be doing thesame thing while all countries are NOT!
They had already given many war threats to Palestine/Syria/Lebanon/Iran(documented in UN) but this one is a racist genocide ultimatum resembles to
Nazis' in 1940s.
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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:12 AM by Spaxz
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The Hebrews have been creating chaos and trying to control the world since the begining of time. If the Bible has any truth then that explains why
they were sent to walk the desert for 40 yrs.
Yes i am of German background and totally think what happened in WW2 was a horrible tradegy to all of humanity. So having grandparents who were
around during the war and lived through it, i was told somethings. The reason Hitler wanted the Hebrews gone was that they were taking over his
country. They did this by being bankers for the poor in Germany (hmm..sounds like the NWO neocons eh! hmmm...and Isreal plays a big part in it) and
when the poor missed payments they took there land and property. My grandparents also said they had no idea about the camps until the end of the war,
and it makes them sick that we as humans are capable of that.
Now i could get more indepth about this and start my own thread but we all know what happens if you speak out too loudly about the Hebrews. There
religion is not good, they try to suppress anyone who talks bad about them calling them anti-semit, and spread hatred through propraganda in the media
that they have a large control of all towards the muslims. Anyways i could go on and on but then i'd be a anti-semit. I hope this thread gets people
thinking and asking questions to there congressmen as to why this country gets away with "everything".
They need to be on the list of Axis of Evil, right there with Hezbollah, Hamas and Al-Queda and soon to be U.S.A all depending on who takes the riens
next. In all reality any group, government, or following that kills, torture, and creates suffering unto others should be on that list. That won't
happen though cause they out number the ones that don't kill, torture and create suffering. Now i believe times are changing and things will change
along with us.
More and more people want the path of peace and happiness, unfortunatly we are way to populated to have this utopia of a world we want. The elite
want it and there working at it very hard, and they will just pit us against one another till the numbers are what is acceptable for this utopia. The
ones that survive will do anything our leaders tell us to feel safe again. Wake up people they want us to kill us all one at a time, the U.N was
created by the elitist or backed how ever you want to look at it. Now the U.N is in the position to create havoc, and watch and learn how to deal with
the possible rebellion against the NWO useing Isreal to conduct there tests, Using Palistine as there guinea pigs. Hence why they get away with such
atrosities compared to the damage done by there enemies. This world is in a huge quagmire that sometimes i think this whole NWO stuff might not be so
bad but remember absolute power, absolutly corrupts.
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