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Topic started on 28-2-2008 @ 04:36 PM by ATSMIX
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The AP boys, Martin and Justin, talk about the sudden re-appearance of Ralph Nader on the U.S. political scene. Has Ralph been brought in like a mercenary to take down Barack Obama? ATS Member Tuning Spork wins the trivia challenge. ATS Member Xpert11 asks a question about the potential for independent oversight of U.S. elections that pits Martin and Justin against each other. Justin actually has good things to say about sleazy special interest groups. Martin denies the existence of an underground Royal delivery system, and much more!
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[edit on 2/28/2008 by Dave Rabbit]
Above Politics Show 05
The AP boys, Martin and Justin, talk about the sudden re-appearance of Ralph Nader on the U.S. political scene. Has Ralph been brought in like a mercenary to take down Barack Obama? ATS Member Tuning Spork wins the trivia challenge. ATS Member Xpert11 asks a question about the potential for independent oversight of U.S. elections that pits Martin and Justin against each other. Justin actually has good things to say about sleazy special interest groups. Martin denies the existence of an underground Royal delivery system, and much more!
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[edit on 2/28/2008 by Dave Rabbit]
reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 03:01 AM by Justin_Case
Originally posted by xpert11
Just exactly what Special Interest group highlighted the voting irregularities that were discussed in AP Show 04?
A quick Google of the topic reveals many special interest group reports like this one.
reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 06:57 AM by Martin Bain
reply to post by xpert11
I must ask harder questions in future. You are right so will get the big prize credited soon.
And thanks for asking the question. It great to have feedback.
I must ask harder questions in future. You are right so will get the big prize credited soon.
And thanks for asking the question. It great to have feedback.
reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:01 AM by Martin Bain
reply to post by Tuning Spork
Me thinks you might be talking my comment a little out of context
While the US system is not prefect, there are plenty of countries around the world who would like to have a election system that is as open and transparent as that in the US. Of course, any election system is open to abuse from those determined to get the result they want but I think in "general terms" the US system is working.
Me thinks you might be talking my comment a little out of context
While the US system is not prefect, there are plenty of countries around the world who would like to have a election system that is as open and transparent as that in the US. Of course, any election system is open to abuse from those determined to get the result they want but I think in "general terms" the US system is working.
reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 05:10 PM by Martin Bain
reply to post by xpert11
The question of NZ becoming a republic is one that other countries in the Commomwealth are asking as well.
I am interested, xpert11, why you see this as an issue.
The question of NZ becoming a republic is one that other countries in the Commomwealth are asking as well.
I am interested, xpert11, why you see this as an issue.
reply posted on 1-3-2008 @ 07:20 AM by Martin Bain
reply to post by xpert11
I would agree that the NZ people should elect any president if the country goes to be come a republic, and NZ could still be a member of the Commonwealth no matter what.
You quite rightly mention that the Governor General has never operated in the limelight but just how much happens behind closed doors. I can not believe that a bill that would not be assented in to law would be allowed to get that far.
I would agree that the NZ people should elect any president if the country goes to be come a republic, and NZ could still be a member of the Commonwealth no matter what.
You quite rightly mention that the Governor General has never operated in the limelight but just how much happens behind closed doors. I can not believe that a bill that would not be assented in to law would be allowed to get that far.
reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 11:59 AM by Martin Bain
reply to post by xpert11
I am not sure you can cite Japan as the best example. Hirohito until the surrender was regarded as a living god. I think with Hirohito the interesting point is who advised him or ensured he saw the military reports that showed how bad things were for the empire.
There are members of the Commomwealth who do not have The Queen as head of state. India and Keyna are just 2 examples, so if NZ decides to become a republic, that does not mean the end of being a member of the Commonwealth.
I am not sure you can cite Japan as the best example. Hirohito until the surrender was regarded as a living god. I think with Hirohito the interesting point is who advised him or ensured he saw the military reports that showed how bad things were for the empire.
There are members of the Commomwealth who do not have The Queen as head of state. India and Keyna are just 2 examples, so if NZ decides to become a republic, that does not mean the end of being a member of the Commonwealth.
reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 04:16 PM by xpert11
reply to post by Martin Bain
Good point about Hirohito I will leave that matter for another thread.
:Slaps face : Thanks for clearing up the matter about the Queen not being the head of state it never occurred to me that India who declared independence in 1947 would not have the queen as head of of state.
NZ becoming a Republic isnt one of my main concerns at this time . I am more concerned about our health system being burden down by elected burocrates(SP?) and the governments half baked defence policy's that look set to remain with any change of government. I'm really just running with my thoughts here .
reply to post by Justin_Case
Hmm on the surface not a whole lot . But the commonwealth does offer a diplomatic rout to its member nations which can include the likes aid to the poorer nations and trade. The Commonwealth must be more then an old gentlemen's club because Israel has shown an interest in joining.
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Good point about Hirohito I will leave that matter for another thread.
:Slaps face : Thanks for clearing up the matter about the Queen not being the head of state it never occurred to me that India who declared independence in 1947 would not have the queen as head of of state.
NZ becoming a Republic isnt one of my main concerns at this time . I am more concerned about our health system being burden down by elected burocrates(SP?) and the governments half baked defence policy's that look set to remain with any change of government. I'm really just running with my thoughts here .
reply to post by Justin_Case
Hmm on the surface not a whole lot . But the commonwealth does offer a diplomatic rout to its member nations which can include the likes aid to the poorer nations and trade. The Commonwealth must be more then an old gentlemen's club because Israel has shown an interest in joining.
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