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reply posted on 29-3-2008 @ 11:57 PM by finnegan
Originally posted by pieman
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post by finnegan

i'm not sure what your point is, but i'll try to answer you.

the feeling of love is separate from the person you feel it for, otherwise love would die with the people we love or it would have to be given to us by that person, neither is true, it just manifests itself.

also love of god is not particularly required for his existence, nor is knowledge of god, nor understanding. it's just a universal truth. have you ever heard of a people or culture that didn't believe the supernatural existed?

Well I guess that's fine, cause I didn't say love was physically attached to anyone.

Yes, I've heard nothing is required for god's existence, what a wonderfully arbitrary concept.

Universal truths are nice to talk about too. I could say frog people are universal truths just for the sake of conversation.


reply posted on 31-3-2008 @ 10:49 AM by MatrixProphet
reply to post by Divinorumus



Are you asking me? I wouldn't know. Maybe someone else can answer that for you.


LOL! I was replying to your response to my quote. When I speak of God I am not connecting him to religion. That is where the conflict lies. Religion has botched everything up and it is my belief that they will be held accountable for it.


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 01:28 PM by MatrixProphet
reply to post by Divinorumus



What if worshipping a make-believe god IS false idol worshipping? What if organized religion is Satan's scam to dup the gullible masses and cause them to worship a lie and go to hell?


It can be either - or! Idol worshipping is not the same as worshiping the real thing. You are talking of icons, the cross, worshiping a religion and its leaders, etc. Another words: real or false representations of the real thing!

I agree with Einstein, I'd rather not take the chance and defy the existence of God. Plus I have had personal evidence.

On the second half of your statement - I agree with you. If you have read my other threads you would see that: www.abovetopsecret.com... (Have Christians Been Duped?)


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 01:31 PM by MatrixProphet
reply to post by Divinorumus



If one must go to hell for honesty and integrity and truth, then that's where I would want to go anyhow instead of some heaven filled with a bunch of make-believing liars.


Again, you are talking religious dogma. I don't believe in any of the above.


reply posted on 29-5-2008 @ 06:43 PM by MatrixProphet
reply to post by jca2005



I for one think it is ignorant to not believe in a god. Do you think the universe/stars/planets/galaxies created themselves? No! Something created it.


I guess the fact that there are so many threads out there on the same subject shows how interested or concerned everyone is!

I totally agree with you on the above statement.


reply posted on 24-8-2008 @ 11:58 PM by trendsetta
I HOPE YOU ALL READ THIS

We exist because God created us, period. We

are one of his many creations and our human

minds cannot even begin to contemplate the

complexities in this universe, just like an

ANT can not contemplate the solar system. We

think we know everything. God sent 3 main

Prophets, May Allah be pleased with them all.

The first message to mankind was the Torah,

second the Gospel (2000 years ago), and

thirdly the Quran (1400 years ago). Prophet

Musa was the one who brought the Torah to the

Jews, Prophet Jesus is one who brought the 2nd

book of God i.e the Gospel (too many types to

name so its whichever was not re-written by a

man). The current Bible is re-written so i am

referring to the Old testament i believe (

correct me if I am wrong). And the final

message because people back them were not

abiding by the rules, i.e drinking and idol

worshiping, i.e not going to prayer because

they were drunk or hung over, widespread

impurity over illegal sexual relations. The

Final message was the Quran. And im not the

most humble person in the world or anything

but i know what makes sense like the next

person. and after reading the Quran and the

Hadith (the lessons of the Last Prophet

Mohamed Peace Be Upon Him). You can clearly

see everything that was revealed. There are

things in the Quran that did not make sense

200 years ago, but God said that there are

proofs in there that each coming generation

will/ can relate too. I.e space travel, and

flights around the world, widespread murder

(where the person who murders is as puzzled as

the one he murders- neither knows why it

happened). I respect every religion in the

world and im not bragging in any sence Im just

an ex partier who has been searching and now I

have found it. There is no way someone like a

simple desert man could have known all the

complexites of the universe. No one understood

back them, but discoveries like the

understanding of the Iron core in the centre

of the earth, were not understood until now.

I.e. each generation is still learning things

from the Quran. I saw a Discovery Channel

explaining the same things I read in the

Quran. I.e God SENT DOWN iron from space and

plunged it into the earth, and built above

them 7 protectors. And if you count there are

7 levels of atmosphere, as well as 7 layers of

Earth (i.e Core, crust, inner core, mantel,

etc. However there are those of you that have

a seal over your heart and will not believe no

matter what. Im a person that will not believe

unless i can understand and investigate for

myself. I suggest you do the same, the last

days are near, it does not matter what

religion you are as long as you realize the

last days are near, and as we travel down this

spiral whirlwind of sinning and ignorance then

we are dooming ourselves. God created all

human beings from Adam and Eve and we shall

die and be resembled again down to our very

fingertips, (i.e fingerprints). And we will be

judged, and remember paradise lies between the

feet of your mother. The same rules apply.

The coming of the Last Prophet to humanity was

foretold in the Torah:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among

their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put

My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to

them all that I shall command him" Deuteronomy

18:18


Who in the Old Testament were the brethren of

the sons of Israel if not the sons of Ismael?

(descended from Abraham's first wife Hagar at

the well of Zam Zam at Makkah called Bakkah in

those days) Who else could have been the

Prophet like unto Moses? Who was more similar

to him than the Prophet Muhammad?

The prophecy in Bible has been fulfilled by

the advent of Prophet Muhammad. Jesus says in

the Bible, John 16:7 and 16:13:
"If I go not away, the Comforter will not come

unto you, but if I depart I will send him unto

you ...We will guide yo

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