Originally posted by gotrox
Well, OK.
Your first link---the "trick of the fountain"
Ummm, pretty obvious to anyone, how about a cometary tail?
Second link. A watercolor. Seems to be missing a few planets, and if I am looking at it correctly, seems to imply a mothership and a bunch of squiggly
things between earth and saturn, not in saturns rings.
As for image 39227 on the first link, sure seems like a picture of one of the small moons.
As for his claim of revealing ships in the rings 20 years before Cassini, why don't you go to the local library and check out Norm Bergrun
"Ringmakers of Saturn". He wrote this book because of images he had seen ( and are still available, BTW) from Voyager 1 and 2 as they passes by
Saturn.
I don't mean to be a debunker, but just wish people would be honest in where they get their info, and not claim it as their own when it has been
previously published by another.
for the first question you posted, i dont think it can be a comet, it is emitting its own light source! I think you should first read that first link
before judging it as a comet.
the 2nd pic is a pic of the mother ship between saturn and one of saturns moons.
As for the "Ringmakers of Saturn", thanks i will check that out, it could explain allot. But i am still going on my instinct, even though riley is
fluxuating allot...i dunno i find Michael to be very honest...he is actually the reason i believe his story, also i dunno i just feel its the truth in
my own opinion.
Originally posted by dreb13
Originally posted by ATSGUY
explain to me that if he is lying, how was he able to make it all up? That right there is the biggest peace of proof...
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This is one of the things about Riley that makes me question if he is making this stuff up of not. That being said, I'd like to add the following.
I'm a fan of Howard Stern and want to bring up a prank call that one of the guys on the Stern Show made to Riley back in 2006.
from wikipedia
Howard Stern Show regular Sal the Stockbroker Governale called into Riley's show, disguising his voice. During the call, Governale asked Martin
to decode what he claimed to be a message Governale's grandparent had received during an abduction 60 years ago. In reality, the phrase, "a bugliada
da, yagi mu a mugi woogayo", was jibberish that a homeless man had said during a prior "on the street" interview for the Stern show. Martin
dutifully 'translated' the message from this supposed alien tongue into English. Governale's prank added more credence to the claim that Martin is
just making up his story of alien abduction in an attempt to gain fame and money. Riley 'translated' the message to mean "you, too, are children of
the light, and we have come to live among you". Riley later explained this by saying that although Governale was trying to play a trick on him, he
had inadvertently uttered a translatable alien phrase
Stuff like this makes it harder for someone to believe that Riley is telling the truth about ships on Saturns rings when he gets called out like this.
and yes i remember listening to that when i was doing my little research on Riley, I still as myself WTF!
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To tell you the truth the reason i actually started thinking about the Riley stuff was not because of just Michaels talk about riley, but also because
of a person named Renato Farrez.
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
in this thread he says his story, i have been following it and helping find allot of corroberations to his story. The thing that really got me about
Riley was that he described some things that were very close to what Renato said way before we ever found out about Riley.
Renato said that in the future you will have the choice of immortality through technology...age regression will be available, but after some time the
body will not take the age regression and you will be forced to clone a new body and transport your soul or consciousness to that new body...Renato
said this way back in 2007 near the begging of that year and even before in his book in 2006 i believe.
here is a post i made about it back in january:
It has been really calm these past few days, not allot has happened, well actually allot has happened but i dunno i guess no one posted it...looool
I just wanted to post something i find very interesting, i started listening to the Riley Martin radio shows, and i am planning on getting his audio
book or regular book because the information he gives is just fascinating. I found one thing to be very interesting!!!
Remember when Renato said in past interview and posts that in the future, immortality will be an option. You can age regress your body to your 18 year
old self and clone or create a new body. The cloning only becomes necessary after your body rejects the age regression which will happen in a few
thousand years...Renato also said that you could and probably will choose at some time to let go of life and go chill with the creator.
Well i want you to listen to this:
66.49.193.35...
here is my little transcript of what he says:
Email Question:
Is the rejuvenation chamber aboard the mother ship used on Biave and is it possible to keep rejuvenation over and over, if so is there a need for
cloning and brain transfer procedure that the Biavians have perfected.
Riley Martin:
Ahh Biavians can go…ahh good question…ahh Biavians can go for anywhere from 15 to 20,000 years before having to be re-cloned. We have found that
human beings tend to start wearing out even with the best rejuvenation after about anywhere from 3 to 4 thousand years. So one can say that
conceivably ahhh…eehhh you…you will need to go through the cloning process about once ever 3 to 3,500 years or something of that nature. You may
think that ahh…it ahhh is a terribly terribly detrimental operation, but the way the Biavians do it using ahhh…ahh…ah neuro computers and things
of this nature…ahh and ahh robotics, neuro surgeon robotics and all of this. They can complete the procedure in a matter of hours, you do not have
to stay in the hospital long or whatever. Next morning you’ll get up and walk out with ahhh you know a 20 year old body and what have you. And then
you’re good for another 3500 years. But remember this my dear friend Chuck, no matter how long you can live! We understand that this possibly can be
done indefinitely, but no matter how long you can live. The Biavians say that one day you will chose not to be re-cloned, you will say hold it just
let me grow old and go back and get some rest in the ether with the universal creator. They say there will come a time when one grows weary of life no
matter how exciting, I know that is hard to fathom but ahh it is non the less true.
LoOOL the way Riley Martin speaks is enough to make you start laughing you guts out…man he is definitely one cool character!!!
But anyway, can you believe that...Of course we can...lolll, I am kind of getting tired of always saying Td said this "blah blah blah" like 5 months
ago, and he said this today...stuff
so i will just say that Td has said this in the begging in of his story, and Riley Martin has also now said it in his words...
If you interested in listening to his show it is right here:
www.artistfirst.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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Not only that but just the fact that Riley has said that there will be a great airlift in the sky in the near future...were people will be lifted from
the planet during a great cataclysm or if things get really bad!
Renato himself has been saying since 2005/06 and since he started that thread that there will be a mass landing in the future, in this time
frame!!!!2008-2012!!!He described it as a huge amount of ships in the sky, all different shapes and colors, and just undeniable to the people. In the
beggining he said it looked like a swarm of bees in the sky. Once we found out about Riley and that he was saying the same thing about an airlift it
was just plain obvious...then just 2 weeks ago Michael was given a telepathic vision by Tan...and guess what it said:
continued...
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