Silver objects sited in Denver, fighter jets follow

Getting back to the OP:
The a/c were said to be chasing orbs. Might they have been headind towards Dulce, New Mexico?

For what it's worth....that makes sense to me; If, indeed there were bonifide ufo orbs being chased.

The mountain ranges of the Sangre De Cristos, San Juans, etc all have a history of heavy, unidentified traffic. These ranges can hide a lot of things and are beautiful for anything that wants to duck out of sight.

They could have been having exercises with secret military ufos (aircraft) or escorting a fast secret military aircraft. Or could they just have been having fun.

Quite possibly all three, IMO. But the times I've seen them they were having a heluva good time sans the Orbs!

Wlsbg22, are you a neighbor, per chance? Just curious.


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I heard low flying, high performance jets flying about that time. I live close to where the sighting was, just off Hampden and Girard Ave, very close to the park where it was said to be sighted. It was VERY unusual to hear low flying aircraft in this area. I walked out onto my balcony and could not see or identify the aircraft involved, due to my vantage point, but the engine sound seemed military to me. All I can say is that there was more than one plane, several would be all I could attest too. It was odd enough for me to get off the couch and look.

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I see you lived close to my old stomping grounds, Alamosa (home of Snippy ((actually Lady)), where I grew up in the 50's and left to join the Navy in '62. We had a flap there at that time, and almost always the UFO's were coming from the Sand dunes area. I saw a few things I couldn't explain. The San Luis Valley is known as The Mysterious Valley now days.

About military operations over populated areas (metro):
Fighters do not normally fly over populated metro areas at low altitude unless taking off or landing in predetermined flight paths. They are restricted to specified altitudes and are subject to disciplinary action if these restrictions are violated. They have free reign in MOA's (military Operations Areas) and civilian (general) aviation is restricted from entering these areas because of low altitude operations.

There are exceptions from time to time and the FAA issues NOTAMS (notice to airmen) that will temporarily restrict general and commercial aviation from a specified area if the military is going to be operating in normally general aviation airspace. Makes sense, the FAA doesn't want fighters crashing into cessnas or 747's. An example of a NOTAM is at airshows where the military is going to "fly over" or perform, then everything is done by the clock to a program.

Of course, flying low over base housing is another thing, as no commercial or general aviation is allowed over such installations.

edit to add: So, the sight of military fighters at low altitude over a metro area is unusual, but not necessarily a violation if the FAA was forewarned and issued a NOTAM. In the case of a security emergency, effort is made to divert general and commercial aviation from the area.

Hopup

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Originally posted by ironman433

Originally posted by cbianchi513
reply to post by PokeyJoe

 

The ships I'm talking about cruise at barely subsonic, right? I believe that afterburners were mentioned, which would indicate that they would exceed their cruising speed.

I'm only saying that they would be really trying to get somewhere in a hurry if they were lit up. That's supersonic to me.

an aircraft with full after fburner doesn't hit supersonic right away just the same as your car doesn't peg the needle the second you mash it to the floor.

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me, and the rest of us for idiots. Although your statement is true, it hardly bears any relevance to the topic. I should think that anyone with a working high school level knowledge of physics could come up with such drivel on their own.

MY point is: A pilot can't light 'em up at low level over a populated area without just cause. It simply doesn't happen without severe repurcussions.

Low level flights are commonplace, especially in areas surrounding bases. Low level flights on 'burner: not so much.

Please read and attempt to understand the post before replying, you save the headache of editing, as well as the embarassment of making a fool of yourself.

Edit: grammar

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Please read and attempt to understand the post before replying, you save the headache of editing, as well as the embarassment of making a fool of yourself.

Getting a little too cocky there aren't ya? So how are you the all knowing authority of everything? You need to learn how to communicate with others.

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Never claimed to be omniscient... just a bit miffed that nearly all posts since have misquoted my words to suit their own meaning.

This isn't the Bible I wrote here people, it means what it says!

I apologize if offense was taken, none was meant. I only mean to pass on my belief that a post should be read completely, then pondered on before replying. It will just make this a more enjoyable experience for everybody involved, agreed?

I guess I can be a bit abrasive at times. Gotta get used to being a butt-nasty civilian again, I suppose.

Sometimes the jets just do something different for no reason at all. The pilots just decide to "fly over here" or "fly over there".

that has to be the dumbest thing i've ever heard someone say. there are rule's in place for everyone's safety and they are rarely thrown out the window, not to mention the other traffic's safety the civilians on the deck's safety and sound control to boot.. but no pilot is not going to throw their carreer out the window to just "fly over here" or "fly over there".
here's a theory you might understand as a leo or whatever yuppie catch phrase you people are using this week. bicycles don't ride in the fast lane of the freeway because the other mode's of transportation are moving at a much higher rate of speed and and the two don't mesh. you can also apply it visa versa and it work's here too.

hey a bit of basic research - there are currently F-18s on the apron at buckley AFB in the GE images of the base , now these are 6 ~ 36 month old images

and yes - it is an ANG facility , but the navy , marines and AF regularly train with the guard

and it is normal for the regulars to travel to the reservists base - not the otherway round

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hey mate , do not forget that most sillivilians and arm chair commandoes would struggle to tell if a jet had burners on or off

any aircraft flying NOE is noisy as hell

for crying out loud - just read the drivel posted in the mufon report linked by the OP

he claimed they were in " attack formation " WTF is attack formation ????

also its amazing that he could " see the pilot " but forgot to record salient details like squardron number - or weapons load out

ya know - useful stuff

another note on the claim of multiple aircraft flying NOE [ nap of earth ]over a city

any co - obration ?????????? thousands of people must have seen / heard the jets - any confirmation in the press , radio , tee vee ???????

lastly - the notion of conducting a pursuit of an alleged UFO at NOE altitude is just UTTER TWADDLE

in a persuit - you need altutude , because diving gives you free airspeed

if you are on the deck you can only go 4 ways L/R forward or up

and up robs you of airspeed - and uses excess fuel

EDIT to add : NOE is really only any use for ground attack aircraft bombers hoping to evade GROUND BASED air defences [ guns and missiles ]

also - you do not chase a target in tight formation - you attempt to brakete it - so tha which ever way it turns to evade - you have some one on his outside who can turn in quicker and reduce the closure

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My name is Eric. I live in Littleton Colorado. On tuesday feb 26 I was coming home from Best Buy near my apt with my younger brother (21). As we where walking tward the building from the car 2 F-16s flew over us very fast, very low. I did not see what they where chasing because I did not even see the jets until i heard the engines ( about 5 second delay). I come from Fairborn Ohio (wright pat airforce base, father was air force) so I do have a keen eye for what kind of jets I see as they fly over. After those jets flew over I said to my brother "wow F-16s that low over denver with after burners on is strange". Now i am not sure if i am right or wrong, but i thought there was a law that prevents planes from flying that low with that kind of speed because of the dammage the noise can do. Back to the facts. After those 2 F-16s flew over (btw they had camo paint), another set of 2 planes flew over same flight path same speed same formation, however do to us looking at the first 2 planes, i did not see what kind the second set was. They flew past about 15 seconds after the first. I thought the entire thing was strange. I just wanted to clarify the first 2 planes where F-16s not sure about the second. After we entered the apt, we hear another flyby. It was about 3-4 min after the first set of flybys. I did not read ever reply to the orginal post here, only the first 2 pages. I hope this helps, but like i said We did not see what the planes where chasing, however the flight path was that of an intercept, not a normal fly over ( such as when Air force academy has a football game the planes will do a fly over which is near the foothills in the springs, thats on saturdays during football season and normally there are only 2 planes that fly over in a much slower manor.) Good luck!

FlatLine

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Thanks for the information. I have no military training so I am glad you have some information to pass along. This was a truly strange event. Keep you eyes open, truly strange stuff in CO these days.

No no your wrong, according to the "experts" here the military pilots have cart blanche to fly willy nilly over dense population areas with multi-million dollar aircraft at full afterburner speed "just for FUN!"

You know some people are so scared to think outside of their own safe paradigm its like they are brainwashed not to consider the REALITY of what happens outside of their own small minds.

Originally posted by FlatLine

I wanted to add something, those planes where in a slight dive turn when we saw them, not going straight ahead, we where facing north they came from SE, after the turn they where headed SW tward the mountains. That is how we managed to see them after we heard the sound.

I made a post on Tuesday of this week about gunships flying over my house. They flew by 6 times yesterday Always 3 from the East and 1 from the south. Always low enough to shake my house and for me to see the pilots and the full armament. The last time they flew over was at 9:00 last night. I am in central time. They look like fully armed Apaches, I have my camera ready today and I'll try and get some pics if I see em again.

Again, I live in a small town in West Tennessee and in two years I never seen or heard them until Tuesday. A national guardsman in town said that all he could say was they were told that a sweep of the area was being done. What kind of "sweep" would the military need to do here in BFE?

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Hi Observe,

Do you remember where the UFO's were seen in Florida because I live in Tampa .

I've had quite a few dreams in the last 3-4 months about ufo's and the beings .
I also think that one of them visited me a few months ago.

You so right.
I too believe that something is up and about to happen very soon.

Why do you think it is not good?



[edit on 29-2-2008 by MagicaRose]

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Thanks for the clarification!

If you read the post a few above this, we have switched from the MUFON report of twin mill F-18's to single engine F-16's???

Something is rotten in Denmark.

Has anyone even had corroborating evidence of the original unidentified objects?

I think we need to shift focus back to that.

It is bad operating procedure for aircraft to fly low:

Twww.af.mil...

The Federal Aviation Administration manages U.S. airspace and is responsible for the development and enforcement of rules for aircraft flights and for the safe and efficient use of airspace. Full consideration is given to the needs of both national defense and civilian aviation.

Safety and Noise

The U.S. Air Force is committed to safety and to minimizing the collateral noise associated with low-level flying training. It has set numerous restrictions and tailored its training to reduce noise as much as possible.

Both the military and general aviation -- pleasure and small business planes -- must take precautions in designated low-altitude airspace. Pilots should know whether they can enter, where they may fly and whether their flight will be under visual or instrument flight rules. Military training areas and routes are shown in Flight Information Publications and FAA charts. Flight service stations have Department of Defense and sectional charts, the Airman's Information Manual, and other material which publicize the areas.

The Air Force takes very seriously noise problems associated with low-altitude training. For example, most low-level flying is limited to daylight hours and low-level flying near densely populated areas is prohibited.

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