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Rihanna Umbrella is this song masonic or somehting?

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posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 01:43 AM
you folks better wake up......They started the dumbing down of American education in 1904, with Rockefeller foundations and then after 1938 they started controlling Hollywood, using the stars to influence public opinion..and this was just the beginning.

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 01:46 AM
@ tgambill

Let's assume your theory of Scottish Masonry as the most powerful rite to be true (which it isn't, but for the sake of argument, assume that it is.)

How would the Scottish rite have influence on the majority of the world's Freemasons which live outside of America, where Scottish Rite is rarely found? (Or at least has a very low membership.)

Or does your conspiracy theory apply only to its influence over America?

Also, if it does apply only to America, do you think that the majority of the world's masons (outside America) would allow a certain rite to take over control of a portion of its membership, and allow it to continue?

[edit on 9/1/2009 by Saurus]

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 01:56 AM
reply to post by tgambill

Youtube again..more lies. If you keep this up I am going to create a youtube video that say "tgambil is a secret member of the black nobility and the Illuminati" and then endless quote it to you as proof. Maybe if I demonstrate the insanity of using youtube videos you'll get it - but I highly doubt it.

Still waiting for just 1 piece of evidence that actually confirms anything you've stated.

Masons have no reason to lie about freemasonry. You have every reason, and it shows.

[edit on 9-1-2009 by LowLevelMason]

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 04:20 AM
"Youtube again..more lies. If you keep this up I am going to create a youtube video that say "tgambil is a secret member of the black nobility and the Illuminati"

******ohhh, are we threatening now. I'm sure the mods will allow a little boy like you to act out and threaten others. I'll tell you what hot shot, google Thomas Gambill + Kosovo and then you go for it. Talk is cheap and this is what you mostly do but then again you people do act. But your action is linked with the wisdom of the ages, the carrot that keeps the Scottish rite seekers still in the game reciting those Satanic blood oaths, getting more and more lost in the dark recesses of Luciferian worship.

"and then endless quote it to you as proof. Maybe if I demonstrate the insanity of using youtube videos you'll get it - but I highly doubt it."

******Those that do research knows the truth and how to conduct proper research. So, stop flapping at the jaws and lets get it on. Put up or shut up. Oh, I'm sure you will cry to the mods and have this removed but read it first so that you get the full effect and then get your hanky.

"Still waiting for just 1 piece of evidence that actually confirms anything you've stated."

******You are my first piece of evidence. You help me along by denying and anyone with half a brain will research and see that you lie. Its like when you were little and you played hide and seek you put a sack over your head and said "bet you can't find me"......

now let's take the issue one level up to this one......

So, in your dire threats, irrational demands and screaming, you have a problem with freedom of speech? That is telling and certainly not becoming of a FM, to threaten someone's freedom of speech by spreading lies. You don't lie yet you have admitted you will lie here by making a video, speading lies. surely you aren't that dense not to see the irony.

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 04:21 AM
you boys do travel in packs don't you...........

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 06:13 AM

Originally posted by tgambill
you boys do travel in packs don't you...........

If you would like to discuss this one on one I suggest you challenge lowlevel in the debate forum which is closely moderated and highly structured. You can both present your evidence and viewpoints and allow the mebership to choose who they agree with.

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:12 AM
Thanks for the offer. I could present the entire series of blood oaths word for word, the "evidence" etc...but it would simply tie up time and that's it. We have a grave situation coming NOW. The World Order is closely getting ready to trigger the next incident that will set the wheels of change in motion. Swiss bank accounts for Americans have now been closed.

UBS closing U.S. clients' offshore accounts
By Lisa JuccaFri Jan 9, 5:42 am ET
ZURICH (Reuters) – Swiss wealth manager UBS AG (UBSN.VX) (UBS.N) is closing all the offshore accounts of its U.S. clients, the bank said on Friday, as it comes under pressure from U.S. tax authorities.

The Swiss bank decided in July last year to stop offering offshore accounts to U.S. citizens after it was targeted by a U.S. tax investigation which challenges Switzerland's famous banking secrecy laws.

U.S. prosecutors have alleged UBS helped clients hide $18 billion of untaxed American money in undeclared accounts. This amounts to around $300 million of annual unpaid taxes, the newspaper said.


just another domino to set the wheels of change in motion and soon. So, what does this have to do with Jay Z......everything. The Music, the politics, the TV, Movies, books [Atlas Shrugged - code book], and many more ways are preparing mankind nation by nation to accept the new World order and the New Age Movement. Jay Z is just another way to get another segment of society on board with this Illuminati conspiracy. It is not really off topic.

word has to get out to people that know this change is time to go round and round to a fence post......too many splinters.

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 11:14 AM
Simply said, I know without a doubt that this conspiracy when launched in its full glory the Masons will split in the U.S.........I have already talked to many that are not going along with the World Government. When they learn that the Illuminati hides within the Masons higher degrees, stand by for heavy rolls.

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 01:14 PM
reply to post by tgambill

Aw, whats the matter, scared to debate in a forum where the judges won't so easily fall for youtube videos and lies?

You really are getting hysterical - calm down. No amount of you making things up is going to change. I'm sorry you get so mad that you stomp your feet around and throw a temper tantrum, but your endless threats, insults, whines, and rants are all the proof that is needed that you have no idea what you are talking about.

There is no high level freemasonry. There are no plans for one world government, and non that masons are involved in. There will be no split because you much hoped for NWO is never coming. The end. Case closed. Move on. Go pray to your idols for more youtube inspiration. It takes a certain type of person to do hero worship of fascists like you, but the great fascists of the world are proud of your propaganda and attempts to spread lies about freemasonry. They couldn't bring it down though, and neither will you.

Closing illegal bank accounts because they aren't getting taxed is a sign of the NWO? You really have drunk deeply from the kool aid. Its actually exact opposite - its anti-NWO. You have the amazing ability to turn everything, absolutely everything, to fit conspiracies that you want to believe in!

[edit on 9-1-2009 by LowLevelMason]

posted on Jan, 9 2009 @ 06:59 PM
Kissinger says an Obama presidency is a great opportunity to set up a New World Order.

Kissinger: Obama primed to create 'New World Order'
Policy guru says global upheaval presents 'great opportunity'

Posted: January 06, 2009
9:07 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
Henry Kissinger
Conflicts across the globe and an international respect for Barack Obama have created the perfect setting for establishment of "a New World Order," according to Henry Kissinger, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former secretary of state under President Nixon. Kissinger has long been an integral figure in U.S. foreign policy, holding positions in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations. Author of over a dozen books on foreign policy, Kissinger was also named by President Bush as the chairman of the Sept. 11 investigatory commission. Kissinger made the remark in an interview with CNBC's "Squawk on the Street" hosts Mark Haines and Erin Burnett at the New York Stock Exchange, after Burnett asked him what international conflict would define the Obama administration's foreign policy. Read "Hope of the Wicked," where author Ted Flynn reveals the greatest deception in modern history – corporations, foundations and governments converging to bring about a New World Order.

"There is a need for a new world order," Kissinger told PBS interviewer Charlie Rose last year, "I think that at the end of this administration, with all its turmoil, and at the beginning of the next, we might actually witness the creation of a new order – because people looking in the abyss, even in the Islamic world, have to conclude that at some point, ordered expectations must return under a different system." As WND reported, Kissinger was also part of last year's super-secret Bilderberg Group, an organization of powerful international elites, including government, business, academic and journalistic representatives, that has convened annually since 1954. According to sources that have penetrated the high-security meetings, the Bilderberg meetings emphasize a globalist agenda and promote the idea that the notion of national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive. CNBC's Haines concluded the Kissinger interview by asking, "Are you confident about the people President-elect Obama has chosen to surround him?" Kissinger replied, "He has appointed an extraordinarily able group of people in both the international and financial fields."

Obama my mama

Officer Jack McLamb confirms 911 conspiracy & exposes FEMA camps

"The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. By establishing reading societies, and subscription libraries, and taking these under our direction, and supplying them through our labours, WE MAY TURN THE PUBLIC MIND WHICH WAY WE WILL...".
-- From ADAM WEISHAUPT, founder of the ILLUMINATI

Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order."
-- Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975

"The planning of UN can be traced to the 'secret steering committee' established by Secretary [of State Cordell] Hull in January 1943. All of the members of this secret committee, with the exception of Hull, a Tennessee politician, were members of the Council on Foreign Relations. They saw Hull regularly to plan, select, and guide the labors of the [State] Department's Advisory Committee. It was, in effect, the coordinating agency for all the State Department's postwar planning."

-- Professors Laurence H. Shoup and William Minter, writing in their study of the CFR, "Imperial Brain Trust: The CFR and United States Foreign Policy." (Monthly Review Press, 1977

"At the founding of the United Nations in San Francisco, Nelson Rockefeller was in the forefront of the struggle to establish not only an American system of political and economic security but a new world order."
-- Part of article in the New York Times (November 1975)

"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."
-- Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations during December 1988

"We believe we are creating the beginning of a new world order coming out of the collapse of the U.S.-Soviet antagonisms."
-- Brent Scowcroft (August 1990), quoted in the Washington Post (May 1991)

there is no question that the New World Order is just about set up for its final phase. You know it and I know it. I have Mason sources that are keeping me informed of the local meetings on the 33 rd degree level and are not with the agenda. They are having signifcant recalls and meetings that I hope to get the info from. Your and yours trying to keep it all silent to induce the shock factor and at the same time reduce the number of those smart masons that get out now. the more that leave disgruntled the more secrets are revealed. Also the Masons and illuminati are deathly afraid of death Bed confessions.

In any case, debating you would be a total waste of time. I have more and better fish to fry. You are a shill, liar and most of you and your group will find that this is no game that the masons have a handle on. Just remember this conversation, it will haunt you when the chips fall and Jesus opens the Heavens to the Great Tribulations.

The end of the past ages is drawing near; the beginning of our New Future looms on the Horizon". T.Gambill

posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 01:34 AM
"Closing illegal bank accounts because they aren't getting taxed is a sign of the NWO? You really have drunk deeply from the kool aid. Its actually exact opposite - its anti-NWO. You have the amazing ability to turn everything, absolutely everything, to fit conspiracies that you want to believe in! "

*****They lie. They are getting ready to crash the market like they planned in 1929 getting ready for a planned military coup in 1933. FDR, just another traitor like Bush, Bush, Clinton and coming up Obama, they are planning another one. When the market crashes chaos will break out and the UN will just appear the very next day as they are here now. To set up the crash they are cutting off any foreign investiments that do not belong to the elite scum..........The high level masons that are in on it have taken action to dump their dollars and stocks little by little. The lie of putting your money in gold is being passed because what they aren't telling you is that they will enact the regenerated Gold Confiscation Act of 1933 that the traitor FDR had enacted in preparation for the planned coup of 1933-1935. A Marine Corps general blew the whistle....on and on.....

posted on Jan, 11 2009 @ 01:34 PM
Movies Meaning, Predictive Programming Subliminal

Time is short and a spiritual awakening is on the rise and there is nothing the dark side can do to stop it...................

posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 03:31 AM

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 12:19 PM
Doc Moreau Tremendous job on this thread........I believe you are right on

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 03:05 PM

posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 03:11 PM
True background of Masonry and its background plus their involvement in the coming New World Order.......coming around

This pastor is right on target, so maybe if I'm not believed here is another Watchman....... This was sent to me by another source. Reference my claims about Pat Robertson, Hinn, Billy Graham, Joel Osteen, Copeland, Shueller, and the rest of associated Church ministers, Pastors, evangelists, Popes etc......are part of this. Its not all but you have to find out if they preach Jesus and use the King James Bible only. In any case, this is a MUST Watch as its total truth and it helped me to feel comfortable about what I've been writing...........

Pastor Williams was asked what can we do? He made some suggestion which are not surprising. They are:

1. Get your spiritual house in order. (My note: I totally agree with Rev. Williams. At the core, this struggle is spiritual in nature. It is also a war on human consciousness. And, It is about both controlling and breaking the human spirit. That can only happen if we allow it to happen. "They" need us to surrender our God given powers to them for them to accomplish their evil deeds. Think, think, think! People must learn to use the magnificent brain that God gave us. Be skeptical of everything. In the coming months accept nothing at face value. Investigate everything. To do that you will need to turn off the "electronic sewer" "they" call television. Better yet, throw the damn thing in the dump where it belongs.The electronic and print media are a wasteland designed to keep you distracted, misled, confused and misinformed. You will NEVER discover anything of value watching boobokvision. Never!!!! Trust nobody until that person has EARNED your trust. And above all, question everything, especially if it comes from people in a position of authority. And, finally recognize that "the enemy" is within. The enemies of freedom are right here. Inside the gates.)

2. Plant a garden.

3. Get out of debt. He said debt is the main weapon of subversion and control used by "these people." (My note. I totally agree with that remark unless all of your debt is unsecured and you own no real assets. Can't squeeze blood from a stone.)

4. Store lots of food. "The farm economy is collapsing."

That was all he had to say, but I am sure everyone on this list can fill in the rest.

I would only add, that disclosure is what these parasitic cockroaches fear the most. So, feel free to circulate this memo. But, PLEASE remove my address. I don't want to be spammed. I have already won so many lotteries I just can't collect the money fast enough.

Get ready. Be prepared. Protect yourself and your family. Protect your fellow Americans.

Keep smiling!!! It confuses "the enemy."

posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:30 PM
reply to post by LowLevelMason

I beg to differ grandfather was a 33rd degree freemason and told my father that the masons choose the presidency and there running opposition so that no matter who wins there will be a free mason in office .....the american voting and the electoral college is a fraud if there isnt different levels w/ in the freemasons then how could my grandfather had been a 33rd degree freemason

posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 04:37 PM
reply to post by Esunmc

And how old was your "grandfather" when he made all these assertions? An enquiring mind wants to know because too often such claims are made and then found to be baseless.

posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 07:47 PM
The election process is a complete fraud and elaborate manipulation of voters and if need be they will commit fraud by any means possible. The president will be picked by the Bilderbergers long before the elections. Any opposition that is competitive or possible will be eliminated. One such example of murder for this was JFK, JR. to make way for the witch Hillary.

posted on Jan, 23 2009 @ 07:51 PM
by the way, Obama will be our last president as the next 911 will result in a massive disaster and declared martial law. The CIA is setting up a crime wave enlisting the MS-13 and several gangs to give justification to declare martial law and we will want it. The Chinese, Russian and N. Korean and UN peacekeepers will enter the US after the civil war we will have..........its all planned.

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