Originally posted by Wolf321
Are we all already dead?
This idea seems paradoxical to me.
Short answer, yes I believe we are.
That is I think when we are born into this world we are from a spiritual point of view born dead.
This is why to have eternal life you must be born again from above as it were.
I could give you lots of bible versus, but that is meaningless because it is all a question of interpretation.
As far a God is concerned we are born dead to Him.
If you want a way of seeing it consider the thoughts in your mind.
When you have a thought it is born, but is it alive to you?
Are your thoughts a part of you?
Yes, but do your mental insights have a life of their own without you?
We are as a thought in the mind of God, all of what we call true and real exists in a way only as the imagination of God.
What is similar between our existence and that of our thoughts is they are fully a construct of our mind, and when we stop thinking about them they
end, they have no power over their reality as we have no power over our birth and death.
The difference between our thoughts and us, is that our thoughts can not prove for themselves that we exists or that anything exists outside of
We can prove for ourselves that God and the spiritual exists by bringing evidence of the spiritual into our reality.
This is why the dead can be raised and miracles can be performed, because our reality is dead and the spiritual is alive, you can bring life into this
world but you can not take it out.
God is the God of the living not the dead.