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Topic started on 26-2-2008 @ 10:38 AM by realmatrix
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Teens charged with shaving, clubbing disabled woman: Abuse of the disabled once again!!
www.cnn.com
 CINCINNATI, Ohio (AP) -- Two teenagers hid overnight in a house and spent more than six hours torturing a disabled woman after her mother
left in the morning, authorities said.
Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones said the teenage boy and girl tied up the 18-year-old woman, clubbed her, kicked her, shaved her head and soaked
her with water before making her walk barefoot outside in the snow.
They also ignored pleas from the woman, who had undergone brain surgery, not to hit her in the head, investigators said. (visit the link for
the full news article)
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 10:38 AM by realmatrix
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Once again torture and mistreatment of the disabled. Last week it was cops in Florida dumping a disabled man on the floor and kicking him, now teens
in Ohio torture a disabled woman for 6 hrs....whats going on!
I do remember facts that Hitlers Germany treated the disabled like this, but in America?
These teens should be tried as adults and never see the light of day again.
Case closed!
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(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 10:53 AM by Blueracer
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I agree that they should be tried as adults and sent away for a very long time. But don't let what these people did make you think that the people
of America condone this type of thing. This wasn't government sanctioned. There are mean people all over the world and where they are from doesn't
really mean anything.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 10:59 AM by themaster1
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Are they even humans at this stage? They're more barbarians than anything else to me.No mercy, no remorse.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 10:59 AM by OzWeatherman
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They need the sh*t kicked out of them
It was obviously a premeditated attack on the poor girl. I hope they get tried at adults and spend the next few years trying to keep their backs to
the wall.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 11:17 AM by MountainStar
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These teens should be tried as adults and never see the light of day again.
I agree with you realmatrix. The victim's mother should be able to sue the teens parents for everything they have!  To many of these horrible
crimes are happening and the parents are getting off scot-free. Aren't they responsible for their own brats anymore?  They should feel the
suffering the victim and her mother felt. Best case scenario...Lock them ALL UP the teens & their parents, until Hell freezes over!
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 11:35 AM by Autism247
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Where are the parents, that’s what I want to know... How can someone raise a child with no empathy? Everyone always want to blame the kids, the TV,
Video Games... My parents did a good job raising me, I did some bad things as a teenager, as most of us did, but the sheer mindless violence that kids
commit today makes me wonder where the failing is in the upbringing of some kids today.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 11:51 AM by Harman
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Originally posted by realmatrix
I do remember facts that Hitlers Germany treated the disabled like this, but in America?
Almost every country if not just every country has this sort of thing, in my country (netherlands) we get news about grannies getting raped or
child-abuse you would get the chills from. It's the worldwide desensitizing that is the problem, not only the US's. Some people are just so blunted
in regards to emotions that they need exteme ones just to feel anything. Sad thing, for sure.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 11:52 AM by psychedeliack
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now thats just wrong. either there is a lot more strange/negative happenings like shooting rampages and inane acts like this; or the media is just
covering it more.
either way its sick and demented.
I guess ignorance is bliss; to the detriment of the rest of the world. selfish lunacy!
its just wrong, I always wonder how many disturbed people get their ideas from the news, therefor further justifying their urge to do something
drastic.
I think that bothers me more than the original act. sure awareness is nice and all, but they know exactly the kind of people they are pandering to
these days when they repeatedly show this kind of chaotic uncontrolled outburst of egotistical desires.
sorry folks, killing people and torturing people may make you famous, but it will never justify your acts. (not directed at ATS members, I know
we're all nice sane people)
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 11:52 AM by Bursuc
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So,so sad...how they can even be called humans ?
How can anyone become this ? Evolved life forms with higher brain functions can react like this ?
I am so shocked reading this. I don't know what to believe,it just seems so wrong. Trial and imprisonment is what people do to other bad people.But
in this case i don't think is going to work.And don't think that they are animals either,animals don't do this kind of thing.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 11:57 AM by Nailer
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Tie the little f##kers to a chair and cut off their fingers one knuckle at a time with bolt cutters and use a torch to carterize the wound so they
dont bleed to much.
Teenagers like these need to be tortured as punishment so they may learn a lesson.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 12:23 PM by greeneyedleo
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Originally posted by Autism247
Where are the parents, that’s what I want to know... How can someone raise a child with no empathy? Everyone always want to blame the kids, the TV,
Video Games... My parents did a good job raising me, I did some bad things as a teenager, as most of us did, but the sheer mindless violence that kids
commit today makes me wonder where the failing is in the upbringing of some kids today.
That there in lies the problem. I would bet these children are a product of their environment at home.
I see these kids just like the kids committing sexual crimes. They are so screwed up....that I wonder if there is any hope of rehabilitation.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 12:56 PM by zerotime
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As someone who lives in Ohio I actually believe these teens deserve to face either a life sentence in federal prison or the death sentence - nothing
else will work. I do not mean to offend anyone who may live in Cincinnati but Cincinnati itself is a festering god awful hole in the earth that
breeds criminals. It is always ranked in the top 20 most dangerous cities in the USA. I have friends who live there and I hate going to that city.
The vast majority of Americans do not stand for this type of crime. These idiots were so dumb, not only did they torture a helpless woman but you
know how the police found them? The cops followed their footprints in the snow. They were at the house to steal a car so that they could leave town
because they already had other court cases. They weren't able to steal a car so they decided to torture a woman instead. These two are diseased
sick animals. And there is only one thing to do with a diseased animals - put them down.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 01:57 PM by Nailer
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Previous police records!! yes I say torture the hell out of them and make them pay dearly. Cut off their testicles with a dull hacksaw so they cant
pass on the bad genes.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 02:00 PM by adigregorio
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So the kids torturing the disabled woman is wrong, but torturing the kids is okay? I am afraid that two "wrongs" do not make a "right".
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 02:01 PM by NewWorldOver
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Originally posted by Bursuc
How can anyone become this ? Evolved life forms with higher brain functions can react like this ?
Absolutely. We might be human, but to be humane is something we have to learn. As impressionable beings, we are susceptible to being warped and
twisted in all sorts of ways. I think the atrocities of war and genocide is a good example... perfectly 'sane' and ordinary people have been used as
instruments of death and destruction on massive scales. All you have to do is manipulate them.
Are people manipulated to hurt helpless children or disabled etc.? In a way, their minds have been utterly re-wired to get them to that point. Like
the Nazi soldiers who could crush a babies skull and go home to their families at the end of the day.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 02:50 PM by whatukno
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Wow man  Calm down a bit. Let's not make the adage violence begets violence ring true here. What we should do with these children is try them as
adults and lock them away for a good long time. I cannot condone in any way shape or form the systematic torture, mutilating and maiming of anyone.
Even if these children are little monsters they still live in America and as such they deserve a fair trial and to be sent to adult prisons where
unfortunate things happen all the time while the guards backs are turned.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 02:58 PM by Rasobasi420
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And if someone were to suggest that you be 'put down' because of your desire to see people die violently?
everyone calling for these kids' death are obviously over the top. However, they should be punished to the fullest extent, and tried as adults.
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 03:06 PM by zerotime
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
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And if someone were to suggest that you be 'put down' because of your desire to see people die violently?
everyone calling for these kids' death are obviously over the top. However, they should be punished to the fullest extent, and tried as adults.
I am not breaking laws and torturing people. I am not a violent criminal. I also do not really care what happens to these 'kids'. I am going to
show them the same respect and consideration that they show other humans. I get so tired of people defending and sticking up for violent criminals.
They tortured a human being for 6 hours. What is a good punishment?
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reply posted on 26-2-2008 @ 03:10 PM by Rasobasi420
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Originally posted by zerotime
What is a good punishment?
Prison seems to be the only logical solution. Murder definitely is not.
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