Are they even humans at this stage? They're more barbarians than anything else to me.No mercy, no remorse.

They need the sh*t kicked out of them

It was obviously a premeditated attack on the poor girl. I hope they get tried at adults and spend the next few years trying to keep their backs to the wall.

Where are the parents, that’s what I want to know... How can someone raise a child with no empathy? Everyone always want to blame the kids, the TV, Video Games... My parents did a good job raising me, I did some bad things as a teenager, as most of us did, but the sheer mindless violence that kids commit today makes me wonder where the failing is in the upbringing of some kids today.

Originally posted by realmatrix
I do remember facts that Hitlers Germany treated the disabled like this, but in America?

Almost every country if not just every country has this sort of thing, in my country (netherlands) we get news about grannies getting raped or child-abuse you would get the chills from. It's the worldwide desensitizing that is the problem, not only the US's. Some people are just so blunted in regards to emotions that they need exteme ones just to feel anything. Sad thing, for sure.

[edit on 26-2-2008 by Harman]

now thats just wrong. either there is a lot more strange/negative happenings like shooting rampages and inane acts like this; or the media is just covering it more.
either way its sick and demented.
I guess ignorance is bliss; to the detriment of the rest of the world. selfish lunacy!

its just wrong, I always wonder how many disturbed people get their ideas from the news, therefor further justifying their urge to do something drastic.

I think that bothers me more than the original act. sure awareness is nice and all, but they know exactly the kind of people they are pandering to these days when they repeatedly show this kind of chaotic uncontrolled outburst of egotistical desires.
sorry folks, killing people and torturing people may make you famous, but it will never justify your acts. (not directed at ATS members, I know we're all nice sane people)

So,so sad...how they can even be called humans ?
How can anyone become this ? Evolved life forms with higher brain functions can react like this ?
I am so shocked reading this. I don't know what to believe,it just seems so wrong. Trial and imprisonment is what people do to other bad people.But in this case i don't think is going to work.And don't think that they are animals either,animals don't do this kind of thing.

Tie the little f##kers to a chair and cut off their fingers one knuckle at a time with bolt cutters and use a torch to carterize the wound so they dont bleed to much.

Teenagers like these need to be tortured as punishment so they may learn a lesson.

Originally posted by Autism247
Where are the parents, that’s what I want to know... How can someone raise a child with no empathy? Everyone always want to blame the kids, the TV, Video Games... My parents did a good job raising me, I did some bad things as a teenager, as most of us did, but the sheer mindless violence that kids commit today makes me wonder where the failing is in the upbringing of some kids today.

That there in lies the problem. I would bet these children are a product of their environment at home.


I see these kids just like the kids committing sexual crimes. They are so screwed up....that I wonder if there is any hope of rehabilitation.

As someone who lives in Ohio I actually believe these teens deserve to face either a life sentence in federal prison or the death sentence - nothing else will work. I do not mean to offend anyone who may live in Cincinnati but Cincinnati itself is a festering god awful hole in the earth that breeds criminals. It is always ranked in the top 20 most dangerous cities in the USA. I have friends who live there and I hate going to that city. The vast majority of Americans do not stand for this type of crime. These idiots were so dumb, not only did they torture a helpless woman but you know how the police found them? The cops followed their footprints in the snow. They were at the house to steal a car so that they could leave town because they already had other court cases. They weren't able to steal a car so they decided to torture a woman instead. These two are diseased sick animals. And there is only one thing to do with a diseased animals - put them down.


[edit on 26-2-2008 by zerotime]

Previous police records!! yes I say torture the hell out of them and make them pay dearly. Cut off their testicles with a dull hacksaw so they cant pass on the bad genes.

[edit on 26-2-2008 by Nailer]

Originally posted by Bursuc
How can anyone become this ? Evolved life forms with higher brain functions can react like this ?

Absolutely. We might be human, but to be humane is something we have to learn. As impressionable beings, we are susceptible to being warped and twisted in all sorts of ways. I think the atrocities of war and genocide is a good example... perfectly 'sane' and ordinary people have been used as instruments of death and destruction on massive scales. All you have to do is manipulate them.

Are people manipulated to hurt helpless children or disabled etc.? In a way, their minds have been utterly re-wired to get them to that point. Like the Nazi soldiers who could crush a babies skull and go home to their families at the end of the day.

Originally posted by zerotime
What is a good punishment?

Prison seems to be the only logical solution. Murder definitely is not.