John Todd former Illuminati comes clean.

I did a search and couldn't find any results which had this person... Maybe you have this already again please delete if that is the case.

John Todd was saved by Jesus Christ and is telling about the Illuminati.

video.stumbleupon.com...=7fkx65w6jc

The Christian magazine "Christianity Today" exposed John Todd as a fraud in 1979. The Wikipedia article on him here contains the basic summary, as well as links to the Christianity Today and other articles.

[edit on 26-2-2008 by Masonic Light]

Very interesting.. I read the wikki and sounds pretty convincing that he is indeed discredited...

Do you know of any other's who have been doing this same type of preaching who are also discredited so it can be easier to point them out... ?

reply to post by 4204peace

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The only ones I'm familiar with are Mike Warnke and Bill Schnoebelen, although I'm sure there are others. During the so-called "satanic panic" of the 1980's, a lot of books were written, and a lot of money was made, by charlatans trying to cash in on sensation.

How would one be able to tell if Mr. Todd was real or not? I mean, what credentials are required for an Illuminati member?

reply to post by VisionQuest

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I heard his tapes, and he seemed to know alot about this stuff. One can never truly tell, but its info that all should listen too. One thing is for sure he is right that the rothchilds are what he says they are.

Just because in our secular world, we are not supposed to believe in that stuff, does not make it untrue.

All people here should listen to his tapes and see what they think, and just because some of his info may be proved false, by whoever, that can be said about everyone.

Shame we will never get to hear him again according to this website.

www.kt70.com...



I am sure there was something trueful in this, as they set him up for a 30 year prison sentence, our leaders are true monsters. Lets just see when fritz springmeier comes out how he is.

[edit on 2/26/2008 by andy1033]

Since his stories were inconsistent, it must be assumed he was not telling the truth. Ditto with Schnoebelen and Warnke.



In the Bavarian Illuminati, the credentials were that one had to be a male of good moral character who believed in the existence of a Supreme Being, the separation of church and state, public education for all children, universal suffrage, and democratic government.

Sounds good to me. Where do I go to sign up?

A person who is illuminated would not *necessarily* convert to Christianity, or be saved.
Put it better, they may appear 'saved' but their personal beliefs would not be what the average joe/jane Christian believes - nor would they probably tell them.

See, is someone were illuminated they would see past all the allegories of the religions and not go back into them - unless they wanted to 'raise the sparks' that were within.
(Kind of like Jesus 'coming to earth' in the form of a man)

may not seem clear what Im saying, but ponder it and it may begin to make sense.

You will know them by their fruits has a true meaning to it.
If someone truly goes to living on an allegorical level then they were never past that level in whatever else they were in.

Peace

dAlen

But isn't that what THEY do best?
Don't they intentionally create a web of confusion using carefully crafted contradicting inconsistencies? {pardon the redundancy here}

Maybe his old habits were hard to break.