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2012 without a doubt!!!


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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 11:59 AM by Jonar


My take on 2012 is that while we are seeing great changes being brought upon the world by the worlds elite and the puppet masters that pull the strings from a far and the fact that the planet is heading towards letting off some steam with a potential physical pole shift which is the real reason behind global warming and not all the pull that the puppet masters minions would want us to believe, the real event of 2012 is more about a change in pysicality which also takes in a conciousness change.

Some have said, it will be liken to the biblical concept of the wheat and chaff where there will be a seperation. The important point about it is that it does not mean a literal end of all things, but more a seperation of two points. Some will go on to a higher dimensional reality and the others will stay in third density reality to continue on. It is all about learning and is not by any means to be looked upon as a punishment in regards to either point of view.

But without the seperation, those who have not allowed enough change to take place within them and have not at least recognized that change is taking place all the time, need a bit more time to work on the realization of third density reality vs. lets say fourth or fifth.

We must keep in mind that going up in density does not mean that you are better than others. But it jus shows that you are ready to except new challenges from a conciousness level.

who makes the choice about if your change density level or not, why you do! And you do not even have to fully conciously know you are doing it, it is really about how you deal with life and the free will choices you make along the path of your own accumulation of experiences. And I have to add this, it is not about judgement day or rapture even if all those biblical type concepts seem to have meaning in what I have been saying. It is really about how you interpret these ideas and we are not talking in the sense of what you have been taught or told. It is a personnel thing that only you can learn by yourself.

Does it bring you closer to God? Nope, not really. Cause you never were seperated from GOD. Remember, we were all made in the image of GOD and so look at that statement with open eyes and not of the image of what you have been shown or told is GOD. I think if we can do that, then you pretty much know which point of reality you will take. Here is a clue that I have found, it is not about literal specific definition of words or hidden codes for both the words and codes serve the symbolism which is a very mathimatical universal language.

I appologize if I seemed to non-specific at this point. For it would take up to many words to fully explain it all and even now I have not myself even scratched the surface.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:01 PM by UFOBountyHunter


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The Earth may 5 or more Billion Years old, but, in it's entire history, it has never been a quiet place. It has and will be an environment of violent forces untill it finally burns up in the Suns death throws.
Humans, ALL HUMANS, are an egotistical, selfish, brutish lot. They will not believe anything untill it actually slaps them in face with harsh stone cold reality. Religion is nothing more than self deluding horsepucky.
The Cosmos exists. It evolves, and it destroys. We are Cosmos inhabitants. What in the Hell makes anyone think, that they are immune too what the cosmic engine does? I never can understand that! You do realize that you are going too die someday don't you? We all are. Yet, any time, anyone, sputters anything, that points towards the coming of the end of the epoch, people scream and have temper tantrums that it isn't true, and is bullsquat. Pompei anyone? Krakatawa Anyone? Yellowstone National Park anyone? ( it is a super volcano reading too blow )
OH! and yes the Mayans knew when their culture was facing extinction.
I think, if GOD itself, appeared and said, "THE END IS AT HAND", you'd have bloggers screaming, "WHERE IS THE PROOF? DEFEND WHAT YOU SAY!"
I am a realist, and read "solid reputable scientific journals and publications.
I trust most, of what they put out.
I do not run to the clergy, asking them to explain Quantum Physics!
And as far as bloggers are concerned; most are just members of the BOOBOISIE..many here fall into that category!



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:04 PM by darcon


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Indeed, you know, you would like my thread,
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
Sorry op to hijack, just think he would like it.

Pretty much you said, is what i believe.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:05 PM by kanesis


Originally posted by darcon
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Indeed, got to lay of those Crazy meds the Government feeds us lol


I feel the need to insert.

One of my friends hes a good guy but hes what seem people say crazy. He tells me i always have a dream of me in a war in a older time over and over not all the time but it happens enough. I say well you have unresolved problems in a past life that are giving you problems now making you think to yourself im messed up or somethings wrong. So hes on meds from the orders of goverment. He says "I DONT TAKE THEM THEY MAKE ME CRAZY" or in his case even more crazy. Hes a good guy but he cant understand why he gets mad or loses it. Id say its from his past life issues.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:08 PM by darcon


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Oh God. They put him on meds for realizing a past life. It is a damn shame, tell him to get off of those meds. It is pretty amazing when you realize your past lives, tell him to pursue it more. Tell him he is not CRAZY. Bloody Government knows Nothing, or better yet too much. Always keeping the Peeps in the dark.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:10 PM by jondular


I wonder why the Mayan calendar would go back 50,000 years in the past but ends in December of 2012. I guess they thought there wouldn't be a January 2013.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:14 PM by kanesis


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WORD, in the previous post I wasnt addressing you it was the other but you know



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:14 PM by magicmushroom


Christian, again you speak of God as if you are in communication with him how do you know what God does or not what he is repsonsible for. If he created us then he created all the mistakes so the blame and resposilbilty still lies with him does it not. And if your God is so powerful why has he not been back to fix things.

Well the answer is becasue he does not exist full stop accept for in the minds of those who wish to believe in fairy tales and tall stories. I believe in the physical World I do not need some fake image to get through my day, I have a brain and I use it I dont need others to think for me or to tell me right from wrong, thats reality and perhaps if all those dreamers just started to pay attention we could make the World a dam sight better than it is.

But its true there are so many hooked in the religeous mind trap that they are out of touch with the real World, what would you do if you found out there really was no God, would your World fall apart are you and those like you wearing a religeous life jacket that if it came off you would drown.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:16 PM by kanesis


Although people Mayans where into the sacrafice worship. Everyone gives them credit for making the most accurite calender to date and having a understanding of the stars and space that we dont have today killers or not people give them credit for knowing there stuff.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:19 PM by darcon


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yep, just stating my opinion is all.
I wonder why so many find it hard to believe that 2012 is a significant year?
I mean i know all the usual reason like, i am religious and it goes against my code, or i need proof sort of thing. but there must be some sort of background on that sort of person who doesn't believe. It is likely a person who does not believe in any Metaphysical stuff at all. Who does not meditate or anything like that. Just wondering.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:20 PM by darcon


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Very dangerous of you to say that, but it needed to be said.

I believe in the inner god.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:26 PM by kanesis


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I could not have said that any better



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:28 PM by darcon


Originally posted by kanesis


Although people Mayans where into the sacrafice worship. Everyone gives them credit for making the most accurite calender to date and having a understanding of the stars and space that we dont have today killers or not people give them credit for knowing there stuff.


Yes you could say that the Mayans, were way more spiritually intact then todays society, maybe they were even more Tech advanced too. Modern scientists look at the pyramids and say "how in the deuce did they do that".
Who knows.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:31 PM by bicnarok


Nothing will end, things may change like they always have, but "it " wont end.

Hopefully it will change for the better, too many people suffering in the world



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:34 PM by darcon


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agreed. Africa out of all needs the most help. That's what does not make sense. The American Government states that they are in Iraq to help Rebuild A society of fear and poverty.

Yet if that were true, Africa(The whole Continent) Should be at the top of the list for that. I mean COME ON.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:41 PM by kanesis


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looking at your avatar i would think you know Jedi Mind Trick



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:42 PM by ceman43


Maybe the Mayans who established the calendar were the remainings of their lost civilization... It's the same as with the Atlantis.

I've cared for my spirituality for more than 20 years now. I'm active at meditation, at helping others, I think I've changed a lot since my interest towards "unaccountable" things started (this as a beginning).

Once this said, and such as I repliedd to a workmate around 1989 (she told me an asteroid was told to hit the Earth in more of less 40 months, followed by a list of absurd measures to take in order to survive), I can't and don't want to live with the anguish of a given date for a catastrophe.

So I do what I did then. I live everyday, I keep my duties done, I care for my pets, I water my plants, what else?



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:45 PM by kanesis


Originally posted by ceman43
Maybe the Mayans who established the calendar were the remainings of their lost civilization... It's the same as with the Atlantis.

I've cared for my spirituality for more than 20 years now. I'm active at meditation, at helping others, I think I've changed a lot since my interest towards "unaccountable" things started (this as a beginning).

Once this said, and such as I repliedd to a workmate around 1989 (she told me an asteroid was told to hit the Earth in more of less 40 months, followed by a list of absurd measures to take in order to survive), I can't and don't want to live with the anguish of a given date for a catastrophe.

So I do what I did then. I live everyday, I keep my duties done, I care for my pets, I water my plants, what else?



We could go there which is what i think as-well but i dont want to add more things than whats at hand. Your talking about from egypt right.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 12:47 PM by kanesis


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Nicely said



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 01:02 PM by ceman43


Originally posted by kanesis

We could go there which is what i think as-well but i dont want to add more things than whats at hand. Your talking about from egypt right.


Sorry, I don't understand you fully. Where could we go? What do you say about egypt?



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