2012 without a doubt!!!

We are in the physical world right now. They are in the spirit world.

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You put words in my mouth. I never said burn in hell

That's all you and your limited understanding of the word of God. You should try reading in the Greek there is no word hell.



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Wow. That wasn't very nice.

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coming from the guy who believes in a red Creature with horns called Satan. Where does Satan Reside i might ask?

Its so funny people ask for Proof. Do you have proof of god besides text documents? Do you have any video or pictures that god exist. When he talks to you do you have a recording?

See how you dont have any proof but documents and what you beleive kind of like us so why are you fighting with us.

You come into this thread trying to dis prove or hijack. we could do the same with what you beleive do you have the golden fleece? do you have any pictures or video of the fleece

Well you read the bible. So you are believing words right their.

I am not being mean, just pointing it out. I am glad that you are open, unlike some of the people on this thread.

I just want to apologize to the o.p.
I am sorry, for Hijacking he thread. I just needed to address some people here.

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See you talking out of your butt again. I never said anything about a red dude with horns. That is all your limited understanding.

He exists primarily as a spirit, I would think another dimension. However he surely can take on a physical form if he desires.

What you are opening yourself to is this ,

Jesus says,
(matt 12)

That's you bud...

Well where all made in gods imagine "from the bible" so if uits in the bible youll beleive it. So the bible says where made in god's image. Doesnt that make us gods not him but gods non the less

Isn't there only the spiritual world? anything else is illusion. you can blame that on satan or whoever or whatever you want.

and from the "physical" point of view, just look at how your brain works and how psychology works, how you tag and label things and give them meaning.

this is not a spiritual argument, its a truth argument.


heres a link to a very interesting read on how rationality can prove this all to be an illusion.
www.sacred-texts.com...

ALL walks of life or faith should find this interesting. especially the atheists, scientists or critical thinkers.

Im not trying to push god or push anything else, just understanding.
I did not find this document to be bias. it may see ma bit scary at times, but its a good scary. or that scary that will be chalked up to evil for those out fear wish not to proceed in understanding.




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Darcon, I have read the Bible over and over and had Bible scholars help and heard sermon after sermon and still don't understand it all. I have a pretty good grasp of it and I have the fundamentals down. I just really don't understand any of your beliefs at all. Seriously what is this other side you keep mentioning? The other side of what?

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No absolutely not.

If I take a photograph of a space ship. I have an image of it.

But the photograph is not a spaceship is it?

Can you take the photograph to the moon?

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Sorry i have misstated again. What i mean by the other side is, The spirit world. I like to call the Spirit world, the other side.

Yeah, I'll take a look at it. But you have to remember reality is not 'rational'. Rationality and logic and products of the human mind, while the actual universe is full of paradox.

Actually that link very long. Why don't you summarize the findings for us?


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Matthew 12

Sorry but somebodies got to take a stand against this New Age false teaching. Only through the Holy Spirit can you be "actualized"

Self actualization is a lie.....

Whammy, I agree with you very much so, but you have to realize you are preaching the word of God to people that do not believe in God, therefore to them you have no arguement. We are not talking with hungry for true truth people here, we are dealing with people with anti-Christian agendas on their minds. I'm not discouraging your approach at all, just realize this is a stop sign you are arguing with.
Kudos though.

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I am not anti Christian, i believe if you Believe in a god, it is better than not believing at all. People have to have faith.

I believe in the inner god.

So you do believe that Christianity is the one true faith and that all others fake?
Or do you just believe that the above version of Buddhism is a lie?

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Yes bro.. it's really a carry over from yesterday, they claim there is no evil. bla blah n]blah... I am about to quit. I just like to have the truth in the thread for anyone who might read it later...

I truly let people alone that don;t provoke me or deliberately blaspheme God.

That Wingnut Master Pooba Darcon completely dismissed the Bible and laughed at me in a superior tone..

My work here is about done...

Not pointing out you in particular darcon. Christians on here have really been taking a lashing though. I got off this site back in 06' because I kept getting gone off on by several people. I was called a bigot, an ignorant bastard, a dumbass, and several other things. I complained and nothing ever happened to anyone. I called someone a bunny hugger one day and was docked 1000 points and reprimanded for it. When I openly questioned it I was suspended. I firmly believe that it was because I'm Christian. I have decided to take on new ways of communicating on here without having to throw around my faith. I do bring it up from time to time, but it really seems that the concensus is that the Christian point of view is not welcome on this thread. I never intend to attack anyone on here because of their faith or beliefs. It may come across that way sometimes but that is not what is intended.

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Well I have to tell you if you meditate or Astral project you will see astral beings. What if what we believe is what you beleive. they are the same cause they are but in different ways. You believe god is ONE MAN we believe god is inner peace and knowing your place in the universe. Observing yourself through absolute meditation quieting your mind and listening to your inner self without thinking of anything but yourself and absolute peace. this is also how you meditate quiet your mind sit relax breath. lots of people cant really quiet there minds or let go of there mind to truly disconnect and be free. This is why some people try and say aww that doesnt work well it doesnt cause you cant quiet your mind or ego long enough to really relax.

BTW I love me some Joel Osteen i think he really hit the mark

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