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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:06 AM by Christian Voice



I can't disclose so much and humans are not allowed to know so much, and even if I told you you wouldn't believe it. All I can say is that the future humankind are so blessed.



And where does your divine knowledge come from? Why can you not disclose much? What do you mean humans aren't allowed to know so much? Those are kinda odd statements that need explaining.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:21 AM by lance76


There will be a nuclear holocaust by 2012 due to happenings in the middle east and tensions with Russia and China. The reason there's so many underground bases in the States and Europe is for a safe haven for the scum elite and military to hide out until the dust has settled. It's also the reason why there's a new seed vault in the artic opened so the food supply will not be threatened. The only people who will suffer are the like of you, me and our families. If you think I'm talking mad then do your own research, you should look up Phil Schneider and listen to one of his lectures. What he has to say and what he's witnessed is very scary indeed, but he only touches on one aspect of this. Basically the power behind the NWO and the drive for a nuclear holocaust to cleanse the earth of excess mankind are NOT human.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:35 AM by Christian Voice


So, we're still thinking aliens huh?



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 07:56 AM by BRUGVU


I haven't read the entire thread..

But has anyone ever thought that the whole 2012 thing is all about the alignment with the SUN earth and GALACTIC CENTER.
listen to Interviews with John Major Jenkins Paul Laviolette, John Desalvo and Joe Par. and DAN BURISCH..
i'm convinced that the pyramids have indirect and direct relationship with this 26,000 and 13,000 year phenomanon.
I think almost all pyramid builder knew of this CATASTROPHY.
Did the pyramids deflect the gamma rays???
Did the pyramids some how STORE the gamma rays???
Besides a "STARGATE", i see the pyramids as a huge POWER PLANT.
DID the pyramids activate a FORCE FIELD when the galactic center was active...
There have been MASS EXTINCTION LINKED to this exact event.
Supposedly the Galactic center is aligned with Earth and Sun when these 26,000 year extinction periods happen.
Was the great pyramid... the FAMOUS tower of BABEL????
I THINK SO.
Geological records are very mis-dated.
I think the pyramids and tower of babel were built BEFORE PANGEA broke apart....
If you read the story of GOD distroying the tower of bable it would fit with this theory.
Did the Astroroid that crashed in CHixilub DESTROy the tower of babel? Kill of the DInosaurs, and 90% of all life forms, and BREAK APART the ANCIENT CONTINENT OF PANGEA????

Oh before you say "I have no proof"...

You are right.

Answer me this, How did Egyptian pharoahs get COCOA LEAVES??
before pangea broke apart S. America Africa, and the middle east were all land locked together. So walking to S. AMerica from Egypt was possible.

Anyways, i have a baseball draft on Yahoo i have to go to.

Have fun ripping me apart.

BRUGVU (email me i use hotmail).



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:16 AM by magicmushroom


Hey Incarnated, if you cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen, you have come up with nothing I dont already know and have researched. Your answer to any who dont agree with you is that we are blind or live in fear.

Your trying to quote from a book of fairy tales times real events and trying to match the 2 together. I would say this it is you who is in fear and people who think like you, you cannot deal with this world so you seek a new one and wish the end of humanity to bring that about.

You post a thread stating that the end of the world is nigh and only the true believers such as yourself will be saved, well its all rot and if you want to so desperately live in the fantasy realm thats your choice but dont try and trick others into joining you.

Why not just be honest and say that you hate life as it is and you hate many of the people and wish that it would all change for the better. I can respect views such as that and argue the pros and cons of such a statement. But to come here and make it appear that you are in the know and you are a chossen one justs makes you a target.

In ages gone by man worshipped the physical world and many still do, the supreme being was unkown to him. Its modern man that has created this God like being that you and so many others wish to believe in. Are there superior life forms in the comos yes there are, is there an all seeing God no there is not. I can only assume that that you are mssing something in this life that makes you want the world to end just in the hope that the next one may be better.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:55 AM by Christian Voice



In ages gone by man worshipped the physical world and many still do, the supreme being was unkown to him. Its modern man that has created this God like being that you and so many others wish to believe in. Are there superior life forms in the comos yes there are, is there an all seeing God no there is not. I can only assume that that you are mssing something in this life that makes you want the world to end just in the hope that the next one may be better.



You can't possibly make a statement that there is no God and hold any credit to anything else you are saying. You believe there is no God, you don't know, you can't. I believe that there really is a God. I can't prove it nor can you disprove it. Try and not make egotistical remarks like that that insinuate you are all knowing.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 08:58 AM by kanesis


I love all the "C's" that have found there way into a A and B conversation. First off the guy who said beleive in god you obviously havent meditated at all. Also this is talked about in the bible repeated and everyone knows the saying "the meek shall inherit the earth". This means that the people who lived off the land or can go back to living off land growing crops. This is what we will need to do when a worldwide disaster hits. If you think that nobody beleives that something will happen beside the people who beleive in 2012. Look here www.farnorthscience.com...
Obviously there preparing for something and obviously whoever built that has a amazing amount of money and resources if they can build a vault in the middle of baren alaska. Other evidence of mass floods if you goto the top of mountins in LAS VEGAS NEVADA you can see "SEA CORAL" which only forms when under the ocean salt water.

There is study of this event by scientist they have found a level of cosmic dust every 5,000 years when they take core samples of ice in the poles. The only way a layer of cosmic dust consistantly appears every 5,000 years they go down. This they say is related to a pole ship when earth goes threw the galactic center. This is scientific data they have there own website www.thehorizonproject.com...

Basiclly for cosmic dust to cover the earth which cosmic dust is from outer space. they say one third of the atmosphere is blowed out which is a direct effect of a pole shift which weakins the atmosphere. then the solar wind which always work are always blowing around cosmic dust. but when the pole shift happens the atmosphere weakins and the solars wind or what the solar winds push around get blown into the atmosphere.

For all the people that talk about cereal and drinking milk when people are trying to have a conversation about what they beleive. those are the same people that beleive hitler was needed. also believe if you dont have a portfolio then you dont have a right to be in this world. I mean come on your talking about cereal when people are talking about actual research and scientific facts. Its funny though because those are also the people that wont make it and will be stuck in the world they made for themselves and ill be raising your children cause they are more enlightened than you.

Why do you think cities are all over the bottom of the OCEAN NEWS FLASH THEY WERENT BUILT UNDER WATER SOMETHING HAPPENED HELLO WAKE UP. Once you realize these things and look at the underwater cities all over the ocean floor and you realize this is earths natural shifts of tectonic plates and when they shift, it can change the earth in a matter of days then come back into this thread and TALK ABOUT YOUR WHEATIES AND MILK.

Also the person who talked about naked indians sitting in a circle. You probly are of native amercian decent yourself. Its funny they lived together and werent blowing holes in the earth or mass poisoning or running there own horses into there own tee-pees. They knew how to live in this world yeah maybe they fought amoung themselfves but nowhere near what we do today. This was there land and we said well since they dont have any papers written up or stakes in the ground saying this is mine. WHy dont we just go ahead and do it for ourselfves and since they dont understand and we have guns by the time they relized will already be more powerful than them. Great that you mentioned naked indians you really know what your talking about. The fact that we learned about getting medicine from plants from them and so many other things that are not giving credit for lets go ahead and make fun of them cause they got pooped on by us lets just rub it in.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:10 AM by 00777


Please please people !!!

2012 is not about any shift or anything, that is all alot of new age bull#, and people falling for this will be in big trouble indeed.

Since these stories have come from cultures heavily influenced by alein 'star gods' of the past which are basically fallen angels or demonic, it is a trick for people to delve into occultic new age hogwash just incase the 'star gods' return and won't take those worthy with them etc...

It's a trick, and don't doubt changes occur in the way that the governments will try and microchip people to dam them to hell (check Revelations) and will unleash some vaccine to prevent some disease, and that vaccine will be spiked with a disease to wipe many out, and they will round up people who are against them and label them 'terrorists' because they will be threatened, and then some alien invasion will occur where aliens trick people into believing that it's Jesus' second coming to sve the planet, and will perform miracles and claim God is alien etc....

then many will be tricked and either go with the aliens or undergo this 'shift' and so will be screwed, ...many religious and non religious will fall for it and a new age religion will be observed aswell as one world government.

Then Jesus will come back after a small number of years and those who followed the 'beast' or 'anti-christ' and took the 'mark of the beast' etc will be damned, and those who didn't will be ok, and will have a chance to see and accept Jesus after he has come down just after St.Michael is sent to kill the anti-christ....

There will then be a golden age on earth...


who knows, I could be wrong, who knows there may be a rapture, but there's nothing i have read on this other than some specultaion by some Christians.

In the end, be good people, don't get fooled, and get on with your lives as what comes will come.

God bless



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:15 AM by NephraTari


Originally posted by magicmushroom
Nehpra, Quite right, to state that most of us are going to die in less than 5 years is ridiculous, I mean why pay the bills when I could spend it on travelling more. what are you fishing for?

Truth



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:15 AM by magicmushroom


Christian, Its my opion and I'm intitled to it just as you are to yours, you want to believe in a God fine but I dont believe, that does not make me a sinner or a bad person it just means I dont believe in fairy tales. Only the weak need to believe in such tales and deceptions because they do not have the strenght to face life as it is and seek a fantasy world that they can exist in.

No proof of a God anywhere in any time, just a story of a holy man that has been made into a God by those who wish to have power and control over the masses. Its got to be the best mind control trick since man got out of the caves. I find it incredulous that 2k years later the same trick is still being used although with a declining audience.

That so many for so long have been hoodwinked is truly a miracle and now the doom and gloom sayers spin their web of lies and deciet on the masses. repent all ye sinners for thou cannot enter the next world with the stain of sins upon thee.

No wonder the human race has not evolved as it should, all due to religion, its hate and ignorance that has been inflicted on billions. Even today people are dying because of this scam. If you want to be free, free your mind or religeous dogma and hate, embrace the world and humanity and stop wanting the world to end.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:15 AM by darcon


Originally posted by Bigwhammy
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You laughed at my faith and gave your arrogant opinion so I am giving you mine.

I am afraid your explanation is just plain wrong. The Bible is remarkably intact, especially of you go back to the original text in Greek and Hebrew. I frequently consult the original languages I am not a spoon fed robot. I don't need a GURU.

I am not as religious as you think, Religion is a man made system of corporate worship. The Bible is a collection of books. Just because I trust it over what a few self appointed internet gurus doesn't make me "religious" it makes me wise.

You guys are so full of your selves and your own nut-job ideas. You're decieved.

The Bible tells me what true religion is... hint: It is not self actualization on the friggin' astral plane...


27Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

(james 1)

Self actualization - Ascended masters - That's all crap - doctrines of demons and Fallen Angels. It's always with in -- self- self- self-self- self- self
selfish

You aren't capable of ascending -- Man is fallen - you need the Holy Spirit

The reason you guys can't see evil is that you're so sold out to it.



[edit on 2/29/2008 by Bigwhammy]


I do not need to explain myself to the likes of someone like you. Ignorance has taken you by it's grasp. I never laughed at your Religion, i Laughed that you believe something so False as the bible. You believe in what you want but,

Right is right,

even if everyone is against it;

and wrong is wrong,

even if everyone is for it.

~ William Penn ~


You insult my belief and say that i follow a guru. I Do not. I follow my inner self, Whatever Resonates. I Believe in Spirituality and not Something that is there to divide the people. I honestly just feel sorry for you Actually. The only one who has been Deceived is you. Do you know how many people have died fighting over Religions. Too many, because they believe that their true god is the ONE true GOD. FALSE. We are the Gods in human flesh. I am done speaking to the likes of you.

The narrow seek the quick,
The open seek the long.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:28 AM by Bigwhammy


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You believe you are a God unto yourself... You just make it up as you go along

Self actualization is Satanic. You are leading people to the second death.

Ascended masters is a load of crap put out by the Devil. Your not that special.

Your mind is so open your brains fell out of the back of your head.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:33 AM by Christian Voice


Well Darcon, I pity you if you are wrong. Your whole outlook seems a bit arrogant though. You seem to think there is nothing more important than yourself and you are your own key to enlightenment. That's kinda scary.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:38 AM by darcon


Uh Oh, i got two Christians beating on me JK

Listen, i am done listening to people's Satanic rants, when there is no such thing. The only Arrogance is believing in a creature that dooms you. No such thing. There are souls that go to the lower planes, but it is no Red devil with a whip kind of thing. The souls that go there are merely Misguided.

Are you going to doom me to hell



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:43 AM by darcon


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When did i say their is nothing more important then myself. I merely said we are gods in Flesh.

Through love, Humility, Purity, and Selflessness is the key to enlightenment.

Everyone is their own key to enlightenment. What, do you thing some one else holds the key for you.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:44 AM by Christian Voice


What are these planes you are refering to darcon? I am confused about it just a bit. Could you explain it to me so I understand where you are coming from?



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:47 AM by darcon


members.aol.com...

Read the whole thing.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:50 AM by rizla


If I made a thread combining 2012, Planet X and reptilians, just think of the post-count. Wow. The traffic would bring down the internet which in turn would make the military think they were under cyber-attack and they would launch all their missiles! OMG! Do you think it could happen? Or do you think its pure fantasy backed up by absolutely no research at all, just like this thread.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:52 AM by Bigwhammy


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Just to remind you that you started it with this ,

ahaaha wait a second, you a basing this on the bible haha that is a funny one. I hope you are jokin haha. Sorry to sound right, but the bible has been changed and modified so many times since Christ walked earth. It was changed by so many Empires, and Religions, for the soul purpose of controlling the masses. To have more Power over the people.



Which is falsehood.



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reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 09:53 AM by Christian Voice


Ok, Darcon, now I'm really confused. So, in order to properly meditate, you have to listen to a cd or to music? Did people thousands of years ago just go without this great gift? Do you have to be reincarnated in order to achieve the highest plane? How do thousands and even millions leave their bodies temporarily and become one entity? This whole theory is very vague and never explains anything really. I'll need a bit more detailed of an explanation.



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