2012 without a doubt!!!

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Unbelievable. Everything's a cover up. Why would the media want this covered up? Would they not benefit from such news?

It is not what the media want, it is what the Elites want.
They are told what to do. It does not matter if they will benefit from it, because they are already getting Benefits from the Elites. The heads of each media cooperation have power, power that the Elites control. Why do you think so much fear is spread through the news. They want the people to FEAR.

reply to post by darcon

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Seriously everything doesn't have to be a cover-up. I believe that there are a select few that truly have control over most things, but in this case there are more than enough people not "under control" that if the Ark was really there we'd surely know about it by now.

reply to post by laughable3

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you are true. The arc could be False or Truth. I do not know for sure. What i do know is that most things in this society is not what it seems. Most of it is Cover ups. I wish it was not, but from what i have learned, the people in control of he Western Hemisphere, are very Deceitful. Like having tech that could make infinite energy, and cars that can run on nothing, yet they hide it from he public for Financial Reasons. More money for them.

There are many things the government has in there power, that the public do not know of, which could help this world greatly. Reason why i am very passionate about this sort of thing is because it pisses me off that we live in a place fear.
My 2 Cents.

reply to post by laughable3

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Well I make claims about Jesus rising for the dead.
I use the gospels and martyrdom of the apostles as evidence.

But something like Finding Noah's Ark is easier to prove or disprove.
I posted the debunk because I put up a photo and a link to ron wyatt. I went and did a little research hint... try it sometime... And www.answersingenesis.com, a creationist site, debunked him.
They wouldn't debunk another Christian unless he needed debunking so I did the responsible thing and let you guys know

I want people to see the truth of the Bible but I won't cheat to do it.

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We'll have to agree to disagree on the Bible. It's a never ending discussion that won't change anyone's mind no matter how long the argument goes on.

members.aol.com...
Here you go Incarnated, this is what i mean.

Regarding the bible,
It has been changed and modified over the years by Various groups for the soul purpose of controlling the masses.

There are still a few things in the bible that are true, yet much of it has been removed and modified.

Many Groups have changed the bible? This would require when the "bible" truly came into effect. Sure there are several documents that are put into the bible. But that doesn't make them the bible before they were put into a bible.

Many of the documents have been SPUN.

The bible can still be read as "truth". However not in historic context.

The bible, and the documents having been spun are very nationalistic and lackluster for general understandings the truths about God.

As I am tickled about the points being spent on my thread, I'd love this pointless argumentation continued, but I do feel it should be moved to another thread of mine. I made a tread "Is the bible truth absolute". This argument would be better served on that thread.

This thread is about 2012 people. Let us Focus!

Thats right, you would think the religious world would jump all over it, but they didn't. Thats because religion is controlled the same way as the media. The nature of Religion is to make it sound so unbelievable that it would make it seem like a fairy tale. Information like this is not followed up because once something like this had been discovered it would shake the religious community by it's foundations.

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Really? A religious relic would shack the religous foundations? I would think it'd be the other way around. That the secular world would be shaken if it were proven. Seriously though, if you think everything in this world is a cover-up this conversation is going to end here.

Like another poster pointed out, it's what the elites want. Somebody got paid very well to put a spin on it. Anyways I will refrain from discussing this here as the OP suggested.

reply to post by laughable3

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Not everything, but most of it.

If you think none of it is a cover up, then the Conversation is ending here.

Yes O.P. sorry, for the off topic Rant, but it just makes me insane to watch people heard like sheep to the Elite Shepherd, and To believe most things our governments say.

Did I at any point suggest that nothing in this world was a cover-up? I know better, I've seen things with my own eyes and heard stories from relatives about stuff that was reported far different than what really occurred. Your answer for everything thus far has been "that's what the elites wanted, and so the media covered it up." That's a lame backwards attempt at explaining things away. I'm smart enough to see most things for what they are. EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A COVER-UP!!!!

reply to post by laughable3

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Calm down my friend, i never said everything is a cover up. But most of what the public view is. Whether you like it or not.


Right is right,

even if everyone is against it;

and wrong is wrong,

even if everyone is for it.

~ William Penn ~

Here is the link to the "Is the BIBLE Truth Absolute" thread.

The bible is Spun too hard and it's conscptest of God are nearly past date.

agree dissagree? Please post here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Incanated, yes we die but that does not mean death is inevitable, there are known's and unknown's, what you are peddling is just a religeous wishful thinking. We do not know what happens to our spirits when we die accepting that is that we even possess a spirit in the first place.

We can theorise till the cows come home but it proves nothing but what we do have is records of events and catastrophies be it biblical floods, legends of lost and extinct civilisations. The book of revelations relates to such an event in our past and provides a warning of a similar event in the future. Therefore if and when such an event does occur its obvious much of humanity would perish with the survivors left to start all over again.

That age would be termed the Golden age when everything is new and unkown. What your aspiring to is the belief that when we die we go off into somekind of fanatastic realm, and indeed there are those who in real life that are already there. Can we be sentient beings, are we a life force in a physical shell that can only "feel" a physical world in such a state again nobody knows and probably we never will.

History mentions beings that lived for milenia on this planet, who were they and where were they from, did they die out, did they leave, again we have no evidence. What your trying to say is that is that we should not fear death because its not the end of life yet the fear of death is in all of us, its a natural force because without it we would not be capable of surviving as a species.

What are you proposing mass suicide? Your not a fresh air saleman are you?

Your fear has blinded you. I've already answer this question. Maybe you need read and then percieve and then respond. I know that can be a hard thing to do when all you want to do is produce words and orginze meanings, but it does make for better communication if you speak with someone rather then at them.

Bloody hell Incarnated is that your stock answer to everything oh its your fear. Its got nothing to do with fear it has to do with a member coming here posting that 2012 is a real time event in which 75% of the worlds population will die and the poster tells us we have nothing to fear because in his opinion we have another roll of the dice to play.

How about backing up your theory with some facts rather than just your opinion of what you think is going to happen. Seeing that man has been in perpeptual conflict for the last 6k years that we know of and your trying to tell us that in less than 5 years we will all become one, no Goverments or boundaries. Well I'm sorry that is naive in the extreme and if you wanted to push a religeuos agenda why are you in Skunkworks.

The only reference we have about 2012 is from the Maya and no other source, you have not backed up your theory with anything other than wishful thinking. If you want to propose an idea or theory it must have some factual basis and not some blind believe me statement becasue I know the truth.

There are to many Religeous charlatans going around filling peoples heads with nonsense, telling them there going to die but there is a better life for them on the other side, of course there is for those who want to spread fear and control. How about trying to enjoy this life and make the world a better place rather than hoping its all going to end soon and you will be better for it.

I believe that people need to know that many things will happen in 2012. Like the small ice age we will be going thru that NASA and NOAA have both stated will be at its peak in 2012. As well as the galactic plain happening. So yes many people will die from this cold. We also need to realize the sun is suppose to go into the plain before us so we may not see the sun for a few months. Which that type of cold itself will kill many.

I may not believe in the planet Nibiru stuff but how do we know there isnt another planet that will show itself when we do go into the plain? We dont know. So we will have to wait and see what happens. There also will be a planet alignment at the same time so this is interesting to everyone.

I am more worried about the cold and what it will do to places that have warmer climates. This will be a killer thing even if we dont have all the earth quakes, and Tidal waves that have been predicted. To me the cold will be bad enough for us all to worry about.

I do thank God that I grew up in Maine and know what cold is like, But remember the cold can make the power lines all break, phone lines, and make it so that even cars wont work. So it may be the worst thing to happen.

I am a bit more stressed now then ever because the price of food is on the rise, and with folks losing jobs left and right it may end up being a problem before 2012.

Hilda