Originally posted by mikesingh

I've this lurking feeling that this has already been operationalized by the military-industrial complex - Black projects. They're probably far into it, but where the civilian applications for such technologies are concerned it sure is going to take a while due to the reasons you had mentioned.

My guess is you're right and that the important breakthroughs came in the early 60s, when AG research went dark.

Why do you think we're still flying around in souped up versions of the B707 fifty years later?

Originally posted by gottago

Originally posted by mikesingh

I've this lurking feeling that this has already been operationalized by the military-industrial complex - Black projects. They're probably far into it, but where the civilian applications for such technologies are concerned it sure is going to take a while due to the reasons you had mentioned.

My guess is you're right and that the important breakthroughs came in the early 60s, when AG research went dark.

Why do you think we're still flying around in souped up versions of the B707 fifty years later?

wonder what they plan to do with it when they go public with it (If at all). I can only imagine what types of activities a top secret branch would participate in. thats the real question .

This sounds very much like an emerging breakthrough, something that doesn't surprise me at all, actually.

I'm just getting my head wrapped (no pun) around string theory, 11 dimensional-space, and all of the other nagging questions that arise in the study of Physics, the deeper the science peers in (pun intended that time!).

The stuff that mike has found gives me hope, and you can laugh, but I'm a closet Gene Roddenberry fan. OK, said it...he had the courage to dare to think outside the box, but in a way that at least 'TRIED' to have an air of scientific plausibility to it, no matter how far out.

kleverone had a good point, though, coupla pages back...new discoveries may lead to new and better technologies that obsolete the older ones, thus imperiling the cozy financial fortunes of the robber barons who are currently in control of the industries in use. They are to stuck in their mindset, and so very protective of what they have, that they might tend to attempt sabotage to what they perceive as a threat.

Looks like there should be a ground swell of 'new blood', to effect change...for, 'There Will Be Blood' (sorry, couldn't resist that one...)

Oh! Meant to add, the concept of Instaneous Communication, from the thread title, got me to wondering about thought, as in, direct thoughts between beings. Seems there should be no 'speed limit' there...some of these things are likely connected...



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Starred and a big wavy flag, you always come up with great info and research, and what lacks in your usual quantity, has been more than made up for in quality. As you can tell from my name, I believe the Electro Magnetism is the glue that holds our 'universe' together, not gravity, it is a mere effect, and not the cause, to control the effect, your getting somewhere, to control the cause...your there

I too believe that we have FTL travel, but I am in no position to speculate atm, so many theories that could be possibilities, but who's to say it isn't them all?

As long as this farce carries on we will never have free energy, they've already started touting HE3 and 4 as the 'fuel of the future', and just like our current fuel, it has to be extracted, transported and treated, lots of steps for them to add ££ on to the end. Unless they can find a believable way as to charge people for energy extracted from the air around us, we ain't gonna see nothing.

Theres a Russian? Swedish? Physicist atm doing research on Gravity sheilding, and if my memory serves me correctly, he got hired by BAe years ago, makes you wonder, if theres nothing in it, why pay someone £100,000's a year to research it? (Podkletkev i think his name is.)

thanks. EMM

Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers

Theres a Russian? Swedish? Physicist atm doing research on Gravity sheilding, and if my memory serves me correctly, he got hired by BAe years ago, makes you wonder, if theres nothing in it, why pay someone £100,000's a year to research it? (Podkletkev i think his name is.)

That's right EMM! And why pay Professor de Aquino nearly a million dollars for an exploratory R&D program? Though a Brazilian, he was hired by the US Department of Energy for reasons unknown. Probably experimenting in new modes of motive power not only for transport, but transmission of electric power by wireless means or even experimenting with the Gravitational Energy Converter (Free energy).

I doubt we’ll ever get to know what the heck is really going on. All this seems to be highly classified as there's no gen on this on the net. At least I haven't found anything yet!

Cheers!

I don't mean to wander far off topic, but I am so much more interested in how we implement than how we mechanize the theories.

OK, we make these things work. It's inevitable we do find these. (Provided we survive the bad uses.) What do we do with it, is for me, a much more compelling set of questions. How can we use such technology and practical application of these insights into the universe to get to the next "rung" on the ladder?

I would, just for the sake of argument, have some prioritized points.

Implement said discoveries into the world infrastructure carefully while regulating uses for "peaceful" applications only.

Use technologies to create prosperity, stop wars, feed the hungry and unify humanity without NWO agenda, (in fact, hunt down and imprison those creeps), then:

Find applications that slow or stop damage to Earth Biosphere.

Education is concurrent with last point for development, as we will need smart people to take up the challenges. Make education as important as a farmer makes seed for the next growing season.

Stabilize world economic to manage repairs and planning.

Unify culture through new communications and boom in technology in computing and connected culture. (Upgrade ATS for more graphics, UI and visual technology, video and group communication.)

Catalyze the massive resource for creative genius in our world populations to find and support new ideas for applications with these new technologies to solve all the old and the inevitable new problems we face. Food, Water, Biological, Medical, Education, social etc.

Start new programs for other needed areas of study and advancement to help optimize our organism to advance intelligently. With the new found world economic prosperity and a military based on exploration and community supporting services (no wars to bother with) we can afford to build new science-based study and educational institutes and pay people well.

Explore local space to pin down resources for expansion while having new respect for ecologic philosophy learned from our ignorant past.

Explore greater intergalactic space, meet the neighbors and ask for help because we want to do it right this time and avoid all the mistakes our pre-civilizations where destroyed by.

Enjoy the renaissance in culture, the arts, sciences and all the new experiences we will have and maybe even spiritual growth found with advanced friendly species we meet.

So, such a change is implied in these discoveries. Unless they are suppressed by the NWO and super-corporate pimps to retain their selfish control for power, greed and profit.

I am not doubtful of these technologies and insights into the new physics. I am concerned for the implications in practical. Because, when we all see the truth of how rich our intelligence can make us, we will need to think very carefully our next steps. With more power comes more responsibility.

All dressed up and nowhere to go?

Actually, we will just be starting our potentially very long history.

Again, sorry for seeming tangential, yet these are the more important questions if you think about it.

ZG