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....and as much as the Muslims in your country are to blame,
I've tried various approaches to make you understand that society is dynamic, fluid and organic. It's not just bits and pieces that are independent of one another. Each element interacts with the other and affects the actions and influences the mindset of one another. It's all about communication, by your words and actions.
In a way, my failure to communicate to you my points is like a microcosm of the problem you see.
This poster doesn't know what he's talking about.
By the way Shirra law is supposed to apply only to the faithful, NOT to non-Muslims.
Originally posted by Ilu-Tak-Lak
He married his sons 9 yr old daughter, he would rape children for questioning islam.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Mo kindly recognised that she was too young to have sex with her so he satisfied himself by "thighing" her until he deemed her old enough...
Originally posted by Freeborn
I think it is also fair to point out that this was not neccesarily an uncommon thing in Arabic society at the time and so we are in the unfortunate business of judging the actions of yesterday by the morals of today.
Not good for reasoned arguement in my book, however, unfortunately I too am a product of my times and pedophilia is pedophilia and as such totally unaceptable, no matter how much spin anyone tries to wrap it up in.
You know, I've heard this a lot, but I've never seen the reference from where it came. Not calling you a liar or anything (please don't take it that way), but if you happen to know where it is from, could you please tell me?
The age of consent or even marriageable age in today's world greatly varies wherever you go (and I'm not just talking about muslim vs. the rest of the world).
Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by asmeone
1) One really needs to look no further than the comments in this thread. But if you wish, then look at the stories taking place in the Middle East. If you want to take out the defense of "they're only lashing out at the American occupation," then look at the countries where we haven't stuck out nose. If you want to look at the West, then look at how politically incorrect it is to dare say something bad about it. Again, either through aggression or passivity, the critics are either killed or shunned due to social stigma and made out to be bigots.
2) Your history lesson of the crusades, inquisition, and witch trials: Nothing to do with the topic. It's not about the committing of atrocities. It is about people's right to freely and vocally criticize something without fear of social or physical repercussion. It is almost humorous how many people are pointing the fingers at other groups and their atrocities. The point is, we can rip those people to shreds while receiving a round of applause but if we say the exact same things in terms of criticizing Islam it's bigotry.
How is it that no one is understanding this? It's not about the atrocities. We can all agree such things are heinous regardless of who is committing them. It's about the stigma and outrage that follows the critics of Islam.