Originally posted by helatrobus
beat up on whoever the loser is at the time.

Hurts, doesn't it?

I know, a moderator gonna' slap me down right quick.

Yes, it is possible. I suggest that it be done. We are waiting.

No sarcasm. Select a forum, start a thread and link to it from here. As well, link to it in your signature.

I look forward.

Originally posted by helatrobus
According to my u2u its a recruitment drive. LOL

While it might seem, without context, that the videos are simply for the purposes of recruitment (i.e. motivation for readers of this thread to oppose Scientology), they are rather quite relevant to mister.old.school's point five (i.e., motivations for Anonymous itself to contend with Scientology), especially as they have been viewed and discussed by Anonymous, and may reflect the reasoning of individual protestors.

MemoryShock seems to be okay with the idea of starting another thread. If it's to be an appendix to this thread, it should probably be started in this same topic area (General Conspiracies?), perhaps with the title 'Appendix to FBI/NSA Fishing Expedition' or so, so that videos relevant to the topic in one way or another might be collected for reader reference rather than being lost.

As an alternative, some other approach could be taken to starting a new thread. Given my lack of experience in posting here, I unfortunately do not have much in the way of suggestions.

Originally posted by mister.old.school

Originally posted by helatrobus
Are you or have you ever had affiliations with the Scientology?

What are those experiences?

Why don't you ever address rebutals?

Can you do so now please? Particularly the ones regarding the criminal history of L R Hubbard and The Churc of Scientology including current crimes being done which it has not stopped.

Thnak you.

Since I have never been associated with the cult, despise it, and have been involved in research against them, the remainder of your questions are moot.

As for "Project Voltar," that is what I was told is the code name of the covert initiative. I had no idea that it denoted a Hubbard connection. (Code names for covert projects often have some cute or otherwise relevant meaning) If you re-read my opening post, you'll see that the initiative is two-pronged, intending to achieve collateral damage to the cult via the "Anonymous" actions.

I have no idea how you would assume I may have some involvement with a cult spawned by a hack science fiction writer.

Dear mister.old.school,

Interesting to note that you have had the very same specious ad hom applied to you as is being applied to me over at OCMB.

I think your speculation is reasonably well founded. Because of the general TRUTH that the activities of the non group referred to by themselves as "anonymous" have done little if anything to incriminate Scientology but lots to incriminate themselves and those who associate with them, I think their motives ARE SUSPECT. I am not buying into the apologetics and spin doctoring they engage in, therefore I am being accused of working for the O.S.A.

Alternate speculations could apply as well. For one, anonymous could actually be Scientologists. In fact, if you visit OCMB, you will see that much of the activity attributed to anonymous in the various media is being spun off as being the handiwork of Scientology itself. Whereas I myself think that is a "convenient" misdirection, somebody else might believe it, and there is some basis to support that kind of belief.

In any event, please keep posting your thoughts here. Anonymous doesn't like it, and I'd like to find out why they behave as they do. I am having a hard time understanding how they could launch their initial attack because the CoS wanted YouTube to remove copyrighted material. This shows a disrespect for one's rights to manage their own creative product. I think the same kind of mindset applies to people who hijack copyrighted music, which is also illegal. People who create have a right to control their creations according to law, and according to morality.

Anyhoo, in retaliation for Scientology exercizing it's right to control a product it owns, anonymous hit them with a DDoS. Which isn't just bad news for Scientology, but also bad news for all the computer owners whose private property was used unwittingly. Interesting how they violate other people's rights to privacy and free speech whilst maintaining their own anonymity- all the while complaining about Scientology's violation of freedom of speech. Where I come from, controlling one's own property does not equal violation of anybody else's rights to free speech, but I guess in Anonyland things get redefined as convenient.

I notice various non members of the non group anonymous have had their posts moderated here for being abusive. Nobody with any brains equates cyberbullying with free speech unless they are apologizing for themselves. In fact, cyberbullying tends to quash free speech as not all people have the ability to shrug off verbal violence.

I hope everybody pays attention to what is happening on this thread, and visits OCMB regularly to find out the truth about Scientology. If you go there you will also find out the truth about how easy it is to manipulate folks by appealing to their emotions rather than their common sense.

Love,

Os

Could you please provide more information regarding the date of the picture, etc.

You have a very subjective picture and interpretation. That doesn't mean you are automatically wrong, but this is far from definitive....

Do you seriously belive this or are you just trying to get more points... contrary to popular belief anonymous are not "super hackers" or "terrorists" Anonymous are a hive mind collective who think the same things in the same situation almost like a giant machine. Anonymous do not care about money or logic Anonymous do what they do for there own personal enjoyment. In reality Anonymouse do not care about Scientology, Anonymous do not care for publication of themselves i.e no "camwhores". The FBI can not control Anarchy, which is exactly how Anonymous operates.

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