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Originally posted by RedDragon
reply to post by Bigwhammy
If the ressurection really happened, there are about 100 different historians of the time that would have recorded it. They didn't. The Bible is only for ignorant people and is not a history book at all.
[edit on 2/24/08 by RedDragon]
IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH (? - ~100 A.D) Ignatius was a Bishop of Antioch reported to have been appointed to
his position by Peter of whom he was a disciple. He is also believed to be a disciple of Paul and John. Ignatius
was arrested by the Romans and executed as a martyr in the arena. Even though his testimony would ultimately
lead to his death, Ignatius was adamant about the things he witnessed. He reinforces early Christian beliefs in
the letters he penned while in prison. Even when execution was imminent, Ignatius refused to recant his faith.
"Jesus Christ who was of the race of David, who was the Son of Mary, who was truly born and ate and drank, was
truly persecuted under Pontius Pilate, was truly crucified and died in the sight of those in heaven and on earth
and those under the earth. Who moreover was truly raised from the dead, His father having raised Him, who in
the like fashion will so raise us also who believe in Him." Trallians
Originally posted by metro
So you're wrong saying Jesus was a Pagan. Guess you'll have to find another angle to spout your biggotry.
Originally posted by Ahabstar
For the non-believers I will modify the question, would you suddenly recant and believe or would you just write it off as momentary lapse of judgement, shoot him the bird and be own your way laughing at your mistaken identity?
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
The grandest trick of all was resurrecting from the dead.
I guess the Roman soldiers were in on the trick. They beat him mercilessly, put a crown of thorns on his head, nailed him to the cross, stuck a sword in his side, watched him die, and threw him in a tomb.
Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down. 32 The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other. 33 But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. 34 Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water. 35 The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe. 36 These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken," 37 and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one they have pierced."
Originally posted by Infadel
WTF? no 1 even came close to his skin with a sword (every 1 packed 1, it wouldent be true to say a sword never came near him)....he got shived with a spear....i dont see any swords.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Congratulations you really got me there. You are correct. They stabbed him in the side with a spear.
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. ...more
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by banyan
Not all accounts are believing perspective from the Bible.
Then there's that pesky little problem of fufilling prophecies that are thousands of years old -- even after you're dead.