I admit i didn't read the whole of the posts at first, but your answer is not far from mine! I enjoy your zest for knowledge. It makes wolves of sheep.
or serpents of staffs! lol

JUST A THOUGHT HERE...... DON'T MIND ME...........
REALLY, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THINKING ABOUT THE UNIVERSE IS POINTLESS. MY MAIN GOAL IN LIFE IS TO SURVIVE FOR AS LONG AS I CAN, THAT SHOULD BE EVERYONES GOAL BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE AT THIS TIME IN OUR HISTORY.

NOT TO GET THE MOST MONEY!!!THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE.
YOU RECEIVED THE GREATEST GIFT OF ALL WHEN YOU WHERE BORN.

THE HUMAN RACES' BRIGHTEST MINDS CAN ONLY TAP INTO A VERY SMALL PORTION OF WHAT EXACTLY IT MEANS TO EXIST.

I'M JUST GOING TO STOP NOW CUZ I COULD GO ON FOR HOURS

nobody has been witnessed to be hung on a cross till dead, and buried for 3 days and risen from the dead. nobody. nobody has raised dead people back to life like he did lazarus. magicians don't heal the sick, raise the dead or free people from the bondage of sin. he wasn't a magician he was the real deal


Keeper

Exactly, nobody does those things. So how did Jesus pull the tricks off? We don't know, but we're told by people in the bible. U believe everything you read?

Wasn't there a drug that was given to pharaohs in Egypt to have out of body experiences that made the body seem dead, but in fact they would wake up a few days later?

Mitch

Originally posted by MitchMagic
Wasn't there a drug that was given to pharaohs in Egypt to have out of body experiences that made the body seem dead, but in fact they would wake up a few days later?

Mitch

not to the best of my knowledge. .... ; you are mixing the Haitian voodoo practice with the Egyptians.. although there are some people who believe that the Egyptians took something that is modernly known as ORMUS or ORME (Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements) or White Gold powder, which has been made famous by Zacheria Sitchin if I believe correctly and there is also videos done by Lawrence Gardner about the subject, ... but this did not "kill" them for 3 days.. apparently it was used for ascension or rather "guided ascension" ..

PS

I would also like to mention that I have ingested a product that claimed to be ORME's .. and I could elaborate but aside from a subjective experience there isn't much object material I could supply for evidence to it's effects.

[edit on 3/29/2008 by PuRe EnErGy]

Please forgive me everyone for resurrecting this thread and using a very large quote. But this is an inside joke between Whammy and myself that I cannot resist giving him a hard time about:

Originally posted by Bigwhammy

Originally posted by AshleyD
But without monetary compensation, I don't have the motivation!

What's wrong Ashley are you getting tired?

Some wingnut yesterday had the gall to try to manipulate me by saying something like, "Now you need to prove this because it may cause a lot of people to question there faith.."

Like he was laying a guilt trip on me, trying to use the fact I care about people to manipulate me.

I thought that was pathological.

O rly?

Then were you being 'pathological' and 'manipulating me' when you gave me a guilt trip the day before yesterday for not answering that one guy on the Atheist thread? Saying you're going to call my mother and tell her I'm ashamed of the Gospel?



Thanks to you and your little guilt trip, I finally did end up giving him the answer he had been asking for. Now don't ever make me feel guilty for being lazy again, young man, or I'll just keep quoting the above!

[edit on 5/13/2008 by AshleyD]

My take on possible water into wine theory is he cut himself purposely to bleed into the wine, therefore his bloodline carries on and he is carried within his disciples so they?we? too are children of God as he would say and he lives on in the blood of others to save them, I dont know just my Logical explanation of water into wine story, and comments on the religious takings on it, everything can have some explanation and I think that makes sense so its funny religions that do not agree with drugs/alcohol yet involve it within their stories. I know a priest that said the holy wine is actually a sin to drink in the Lords house, (alcohol in church basically), YET he does the wine and daily bread thing weekly, strange!

Jesus drank fine wine and was a man like any other man. He liked women, especially Mary;and women liked hime. He was consumed with how man is to exist in a universe of many forces --even those outside good and evil.

Originally posted by sumperson
What if jesus was the greatest magician of all time? Im probably going to get laughed at a lot with this one.
But, magicians like David Blaine and Lance Burton can make things float, I saw David Blaine float
What if Jesus perfected the craft in his missing years in the bible?

He is a fictive clown created by Jews clowns.

doesn't the devil try to use logic to corrupt you? To me, Jesus was truly a miracle worker. And think about this, people who genuinely almost died, claimed to have seen Jesus, why wouldn't he be who he really is? And do you really think Roman soldiers would agree to terms from a carpenter? It'a all real. All of it.