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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 02:27 AM by Dar Kuma


Went to the bridge this morning, its not good.
All the junction boxes have been forced open and damaged with even more damage to cabling and lights.

I tried flipping the switches on the hook ups and in the junction boxes, there was light coming from some of the lights but not enough, the bulbs mightve been there a while so might need replacing.

I think i need to seal the door up pretty soon to stop more damage

There is 2 updated pics on the webpage
HERE

joselegend.zzl.org...



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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 05:18 AM by citizen smith


dyou think you could have inadvertantly 'shot yourself in the foot' by either aleting someone to your presence in/around the area, or worse, by someone who has read these posts and decided to go and visit themselves?



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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 07:01 AM by Dar Kuma


quite possibly citizen....

i was carefull and vigilant when entering and exiting, i dont know?

it just seems a bit iffy that the hook up by the door has been stripped so i cant use it to work on the door.


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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 05:45 PM by shuck


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Dar Kuma..

I think you should seriously think about a plan "B" lol!! this project is not looking good!!

Mr Smith...your ideas sound very plausable!!...but not practical !!lol



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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 05:51 PM by shuck


Sounds like a hell of a lot of metal to be hunking up a ravine...and a good generator....they are not light...plus the welder!!....rods/ wire..( if using wire you will probably need a gas bottle...they are not light either!!...

Never heard of digging roads up to burn though!! lol



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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 08:08 PM by fred3110


Dar Kuma dont give up this could still be salvaged.
Can you take a closer pic of the box I'll give it a good going over and see if I can notice anything wrong. The lock on that box is very poor I would of expected it to be locked up tight so nobody could get inside, instead they've settled for the cheapest kind of box possible which would only take a screwdriver and a bit of elbow grease to get into(thats the council for ya!).
We used those kinds of locks at work and thats indoors in an area with no unauthorized access and even then they also had pad locks on to stop some one messing around with them.
Hopefully the box will be ok, from the picture I cant see any major damage so it might only need a few minor repairs.



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reply posted on 2-5-2008 @ 08:40 PM by Dar Kuma


sure, give me a day or two and ill get a close up pic of the boxes



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 02:45 PM by Truth Templar


2012 Uk (Hope Of People Everywhere) Survivors Group



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 04:25 PM by Truth Templar


2012 Uk (Hope Of People Everywhere) Survivors Group



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 05:38 PM by WatchKeeper


Sorry, bit late to the party!
I'm all for this.
If nothing happens then at least we can say we're prepared.
If the worst does go down, well we can count this thread as the start of hopefully better things to come of it.

I'm from the Fylde Coast, Lancashire.
I'd send out PMs to you guys but I've not got enough posts on ATS (yet!)

I was ex-army but was nothing special (arty then intel)

I've got some bits and pieces from my army days that may come in handy.

Nothing particularly specialised about me really, just an all-rounder who picks things up as I go along I guess

belsams right, a laptop is a no-no (although I'd miss mine!), travel light and quietly is key.



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:08 PM by Truth Templar


Hi Watchkeeper, And everyone else. Has any body here read my thread? I would to get this UK H.O.P.E group up and running as the clock is ticking. Look i will be available for met ups from the last week in June and the first 2 weeks of july. I do not care where we meet but i think somewhere central would suit most. We have alot of things to discuss. I am past the stage of thinking i am just doing now as we have about 2 yrs max to be ready to move. Are you Watchkeeper and anyone else feeling the same way?

The first step is the hardest as i have found out but it is like a weight has been lifted and the ball is begining to roll. I know to the very core of my being that this is what i must do. Don't ask me how i know i just know. If anybody feels the same and i know some do i sense it act now. I will travel to met with you. This will be the most important think you will ever do for your loved ones and yourself. Fait is with us that have found our way here and this YOU must believe.

May Fait Be On Our Side And Compassion Give Us The Strength For What We Are About To Face
Truth Templar



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:10 PM by AGENT_T


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Great ideas and work to back it up.

Don't forget that if 'situation x' is nuke related,none of that electricity will be available though.. BUT on the plus site.. the thick concrete will have fairly decent radiation proofing qualities AND the raised height will put some distance between you and ground lying fallout..

I vote that the survivor groups should be codenamed..

"THE TROLLS"..

..for obvious reasons



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:29 PM by WatchKeeper


Avalons Finest! sounds better

No lets not get carried away with names just yet.

Dar Kuma is on the ball with his bridge of groove.
Things to consider in that fortress is sanitation.
It may be cosy in there but if you're besieged and can't get out for a while things are gonna turn brown real quick! Especially with about 50+ of us in there!

TT, I'm not quite ready to move now. By 2010 I will be.
Reason being I've gotta get the cash together (ie Work!) and other stuff.

Trying to flee to other countries and embarking on mainland European adventure is novel and compelling but I agree with the earlier comments that sticking it out here in Blighty is a good bet.
I can tell you from my Army days that marching long-distance as a soldier isn't all its cracked up to be. You need well worn-in boots (that you can run in if need be) and be able to tape up your feet to prevent blisters.
My fitness isn't brill but I can hike about 10 miles without causing major aggor carrying a Bug-Out Bag and probably a weapon of some description (probably a crossbow and bolts).
I suggest other survivalists cut down the booze and fags.

Consider that some of you may have family members tagging along, this will slow you down, if your moving carefully to avoid danger this will slow you down further.

One thing I can't believe hasn't been touched upon is silver and gold!
These things have been legal tender from the first cities eons ago and I suggest if anyones serious about prepping a bail-out bag/survival kit to get some gold and silver pronto!
currency will be worthless but not gold and silver.
Get it in 1/4 ounces for gold and onces for silver. That way it's manageable for trade and barter.
Weaponry is a good thing but don't load yourself down.

Someone mentioned getting a quad and using it to get to a hideout etc. That's not a bad idea, but fuel will be a problem.
Storing fuel is a nightmare. It goes off after about 2-3 weeks.
The yanks store shtloads of it in big caverns but only in its crude oil state (which doesn't go off)
LandRovers and some diesel cars can run off 100% cooking oil, that does keep and it won't be a very fast Land Rover but will move.

Karma man, you need to get that door secured anyway you can mate. Once you've secured it put a fake sign on it 'Asbestos Dust Present Keep Out!' or similar to keep intruders away.

Alright, thats all for now...







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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:38 PM by Truth Templar


Everybody You will not survive in the UK unless you are in their Arks. Sanitation will be the last of your concerns. e.g. 4 mile high tsunamis



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:50 PM by AGENT_T


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So I'll pack one of the faster surf boards then?


I'm assuming you're talking 'Ocean meteor strike' scenario there.
Something with enough Kinetic energy to cause a 4 mile high tsunami would cause larger problems like superheating the atmosphere,global volcanic eruptions and nuclear winter,so a little ole ripple would be the least of our problems..

You'd only have to get airborne to avoid that.. anyone else for flying lessons?

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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 06:57 PM by WatchKeeper


4 mile wave height means only bunker dwellers in the likes of NORAD and Submariners will be safe...

Well lets hear your bright plan then Templar, we're all ears.

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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:20 PM by AGENT_T


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I don't know how well pressurised those bunkers are.. but I'd hate to go from above sea level to 4 miles below in a second.. and submarines would be squished like tin foil.. or at least make your ears pop a lot.


Fortunately there's a lot more survivable scenarios,these are the ones that it is possible to 'somewhat' prepare for.Food shortages,floods,civil disturbance,war,...plague... etc..

(Currently watching Andromeda strain lol )



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 07:51 PM by Truth Templar


Hi WK & A please read my replys on my thread and research just a few of the point i have listed. To Answer a few points you raise we will not be struck by Asteriods we are protected by the Van Allen Radiation Belt. The tsunamis will be caused by the magnetic pull of Our Sun Twin on our magnetic core it is going to pull continents apart.

USA has 156 underground cities some as deep as 2.5 mls and most are between 4-5 miles length (see american patients office 1972 to 1975 for patients applied for, for nuclear powered boring machines which melts rock and the melted rock is pushed onto the machine sides where in it glass compositon is forced in the fissures on the tunnel face a giving a polished surface. No rubble to dispose of and some of these machine are capable of tunneling 7miles aday leaving 40 ft tunnels.

The Norwegians plan to take 2.5 mil of their 4.5 mil population underground the Swiss plan to take their entire 7 mill population underground (As conveyed by a sitting member of the Norwegian Parliment) The Chinese built thousands of underground cities during the Cold War to to protect their population against Nuclear Attack from the USA. There are thousands of these underground cities around the world strategically placed away from suduction zones; rift zones, fault lines, fissure and active volcanoes.

Please people i cant stress i am serious about this. Research the things i have pointed to, find out for yourself do not believe me. I would like to be in a group of people who undestand the severity of or predicament and want to live more than the next 3 yrs.

May Fait be on our side and compassion be our strength for what we about to face.

Truth Templar



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:03 PM by Truth Templar


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more info2012 Uk (Hope Of People Everywhere) Survivors Group

Hi I am looking to start a start a 2010-2013 survivors group here in the Uk. But before i get into the reasons why i would like you to take 5 minutes go to your front door and look out.

Keep your eyes open and look, look into the future and see what the scene will be in 3 to 5 years, and wonder how you will feel emotionally at this time. If you can not see total destruction outside your door; and can not accept the horrible and unthinkable that is the majority of you family and friends will perish and if you do not feel terrified and alone whilst standing looking at this hell, YOU will not be a survivor.

I want to be part of a group of souls who like me have aquired the knowledge and understand by what ever means of this dreadful fate approaching our precious planet and brothers and sisters.

If you are in it for the thrill; if you are in in it for the glory, if your in it to be king, i do not want to be part of your group but on the other hand if you can imagine the above senario and want to survive and like me know your chances of survival will greatly increase by working as a team with like minded souls. We will become each others friends and family and the support we give one another will mean we have a better chance of surving this and the hardships on the other side.

I have watched these postings and have come to realise there is a lot of lost and confused souls. Everyone seems unsure how to begin. If you are reading this, this is the start of your new life. That life is surviving the biggest change in human existance. WE WILL START THE JOURNEY THAT WILL SAVE OUR LOVED ONES AND OURSELVES. If we stop we will be ever nearer to the jaws of death. We are not the ones that have been chosen by those EVIL Sub-humans that have ruled us for 1000's of years to go into thier many varied Arks and survive. I for one can not accept this and neither should you.

1. There is two ways we can be safe.
2. We must have 5 years per person of storeable food (of a certain kind)
3. We must have portable water purifiers
4. We must have radation pills
5. We must attain vehicles without management systems and have all
wiring insulated against EMP's
6. Learn about herbs
7. Attained wind up electrical devices.

There is so much more we must organise but i will refrain until we begin our journey. We need a starting point and i have decided to be that point but once we come together this is the last decision i will make for the group, we will decide together.

May fate look kindly on us and compasion be our strength for what we are about to face. Truth Templar



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reply posted on 13-5-2008 @ 08:07 PM by Truth Templar


Hi all, I know there is already a post on this subject but still there is no survival groups established.

I will start the procedure. Once again if you do not believe 100% what is about to occur then a survival group is not for you.

I have the researched this subject for 10 years since i discovered that NASA's first IRS (infra red satalite i.e picks up heat signatures ) which was launched in 1983 spotted a massive Brown Dwarf (A Dark Star) almost immediately. NASA and other space agencies stated publically at this time (reasearch and confirm for yourselfs) that the IRS had found this Dark Star. The information was immediately classified and we were told the IRS had failed. Which was untrue as it continues to monitor its progress. I have researched all the ancient text all of whom confirm the passing of our Suns twin (a quater of the size of our Sun) Advanced Astrophysics Institutes within the last 2 years had found that aleast 80% of all solar systems studied have 2 Suns.

Research the STP (South Polar Telescope) Research the Wistle blowers from Black OP Astrophysics; Elected Goverment Officials, Solar Wide Global warming, Massively icreased Sun Activity , The Massive Buldge on Our Equator (i.e somthing externally masssive interacting with our magnetic core, why every nation on earth is scrambling to build telescopes on the southern continents.. Etc... I could go on

This is GOING TO HAPPEN...Period... It is heading in from the south and it will soon be seen by the naked eye there. We in the northern hemisphere will see it by 2010. We in the northern he misphere must be ready to move by then as it will be to late, as there will this unignited Sun and at least 7 planets and their moons heading up our way from below our solar parrallel.

I am deadly serious about this group hopefully you will be to.



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