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reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 09:17 PM by zorgon
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 Originally posted by spacevisitora classified space probe named Siloe.
Siloe? Now that is interesting... all I find in the military sector is in Italian 
Internos..... 
"The fountain of Siloe, in which. he that was born blind recovered there his sight."
 what a name for a classified spy satellite
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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 05:19 AM by Pilgrum
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There's every possibility of an, as yet, unknown large planet being way out there in the Kuiper belt region and we're still finding things as
technology improves with orbitting telescopes eliminating atmospheric abberations. Something out there has to be perturbing the orbits of comets
sending them on elliptical orbits into the inner solar system simply because the short period comets can't have been in their current orbits very
long (on a cosmic scale) or they'd have expired by now from the mass they lose producing the characteristic tail each time they near the sun.
This evidence does NOT automatically place the object itself (if it even exists) on an elliptical orbit into the inner solar system. Enough large
objects like Eris have been detected already to upset smaller objects like asteroids and comets and, as we know from NASA photographs & video, it's a
bit like a shooting gallery out there. Large objects have a tendency to 'sweep' their orbits clear of debris over time and settle into a stable
pattern.
We may find many more planet 'X' candidates out there but they are not necessarily a threat to us in this neighbourhood.
The name 'planet' means wanderer and that is how they were first observed, as stars that moved against the background of relatively fixed distant
real luminous stars.
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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 05:21 AM by Mogget
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Honestly I can't decide which side to believe.
It really isn't very difficult. A large planet (or small star with orbiting planets) that is due to hit Earth in 2012 would be EASILY visible in the
night sky RIGHT NOW. The fact that no such object has been detected is proof that it doesn't exist. Even if it was located at the south
celestial pole, it would still be visible to a huge number of observers in the southern hemisphere (in countries like New Zealand, Australia,
South Africa, Argentina etc).
You really don't need to build a telescope in Antarctica to see an object that orbits the Sun at right angles to the ecliptic plane.
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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 06:41 AM by Leviatano
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Thats exactly what I was thinking as I spent roughly about 2-3 hours possibly 4 reading and watching youtube clips. For that moment of watching the
clips I was trying to see what all the hype was about, how they came to the conclusion of the existance of such a planet. Seeing as most of the
evidence really isn't there I merely just dismissed as "False"
Now I'm kind of mad that I spent the time watching the videos and reading the websites. Although I will say it was kind of fun to see what others had
to think for the mean time. 
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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 09:03 AM by spacevisitor
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Greetings zorgonora,  I hoped in a way that you good know something about the existence of such a space probe, but I see you also haven’t
heard of it so far.
Perhaps later, lets first see what this brings up.
 We then flew to Oslo where we met with the ex-Illuminati whistleblower Leo Zagami, who was adamant that the Jesuit Footage was fabricated and that
Barbato had been the victim of clever Jesuit disinformation. We fully intend to return to Italy and interview Barbato as soon as possible to hear from
him personally. (Barbato does not speak English, but Luca will be happy to translate.)
Zorgon, have you see and read in the mean time the article “Real X-File, Source Unknown” on the site of Linda Moulton Howe.
And if so, do you want to share your opinion with me, because to me that [your opinion] is of great value.
Thanks in advance.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 02:42 PM by Terrapop
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There you go... a new video was just released by NibiuShock2012:
www.disclose.tv...
Interesting comment:
A common reaction to these NibiruShock2012 images is that they are impossible with a submillimeter wave telescope such as the South Pole Telescope
(SPT). However, it is common practice to render the images obtained from such telescopes as "false color images."
Images taken by telescopes that observe at the "invisible" wavelengths are sometimes called "false color images." That is because the colors used
to make them are not "real" but are chosen to bring out important details. The color choice is usually a matter of personal taste, and is used as a
type of code in which the colors can be associated with the intensity or brightness of the radiation from different regions of the image, or with the
energy of the emission.
For example, in the black and white Chandra X-ray image of the supernova remnant Cassiopeia A (Cas A) shown on the left, the darker shades represent
the most intense X-ray emissions, the lighter shades of gray represent the areas of less intense emission, and the white areas represent the areas of
little to no emission. In the yellow and orange version in the middle, a different "color code" was shown. There, the white and yellow colors
represent the areas of highest X-ray intensity, the orange to red areas represent the areas of lower intensity, and the black represents little or no
emission.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 02:51 PM by Terrapop
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And here is a well done analysis of the first video:
www.yowusa.com...
What do you think? This case is getting more and more solid IMHO.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 02:54 PM by Leviatano
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Is there a reason as to why they are only being released in a video instead of in a video accompanied by the photos themself?
I would love to run those images through photoshop myself and take a look. Since I only saw maybe a few settings used on the images when there are a
lot more in the photoshop itself. Something just doesn't sit right about this guy...Why make all these interesting videos, but don't put the
pictures online as well? What if something were to happen to the videos? Then no one would be able to see the photos that were allegidly taken.
And no print screen doesn't really help this dilemma.  . Even checking his blog yeilds no results except the archieve of his videos...
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:17 PM by QBSneak000
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Its too bad there are no public space agencies with a satellite telescope or something like that out there to to take suggestions from the public
(like from us at ATS) on where to point the camera......without government control or corruption. We would probably have a lot more answers to our
thoughts and beliefs. Im sure even the new Japanese probe to the moon will have its images screened and altered before being released to the public.
They wouldn't want us to be vindicated by discovering we were right all along.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:23 PM by QBSneak000
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Originally posted by Leviatano
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Is there a reason as to why they are only being released in a video instead of in a video accompanied by the photos themself?
The video was probably made with the original stills/photos like a stop motion film. Photo's lined up in sequence #1 to #12 on say power director
software for example or powerpoint....add in some text and presto, you've got yourself a video.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 04:28 PM by ArMaP
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I don't think so.
There is nothing new in that "analysis", and it looks more like someone that found a way of promoting his ideas.
And talking about "false colours" does not mean he knows what he is talking about (like that talk about his messages to YouTube being "sniffed"),
and the image does not look like the only image from the SPT that I have seen and that I posted before as a link.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 04:32 PM by Leviatano
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I understand, but still it doesn't really help his claim all that much if that is what he did. More information should be presented along with the
photos. Such as cordinates of where the telescope was pointed, you know some of the "basic" information. I found one picture from a link, but I saw
that it had already been "tampered" with in photoshop. Doesn't this guy or gal drop any untainted images on the web at all? It kind of raises a
flag for me, and makes me wonder why this person doesn't.
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reply posted on 7-3-2008 @ 10:13 AM by jboogienoj
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maybe its too dangerous or something. who knows.
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reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 06:47 PM by zorgon
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Interesting little Video on Nibiru/Eris
www.liveleak.com...
At the very least it shows how much money is being spent looking....
Eris and Dysnomia (formerly Xena and Gabrielle)
image source: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Eris_and_dysnomia2.jpg
Because Eris is larger than Pluto, its discoverers and NASA called it the Solar system's tenth planet. This, along with the prospect of other
similarly sized objects being discovered in the future, motivated the International Astronomical Union (IAU) to define the term "planet" for the
first time. Under a new definition approved on August 24, 2006, Eris was designated a "dwarf planet" along with Pluto and Ceres.[ (dwarf_planet)
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 03:27 PM by BiblicalBeliever
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I believe Nibiru is alive and well, and is coming. You can go back as far as Sumarian culture and find it in the writings.
The Sumarian's knew well back then about the 12th planet, and what they mean by the "12th" and not the "10th" is, the Sumarian's included the
Sun and Moon within our solar system as planets.
The Sumarian's alone came up with the name Nibiru for this 12th planet, and the Sumarian meaning (term) for Nibiru means "The Planet (Body) of
Crossing" I find that very interesting.
I myself am a very strong believer in the Bible, and what I believe Nibiru to be is very well explained in the book of Revelation: Chapter 8 verses
10-11
If you read, you will notice it is a star, not a planet... a Star known as Wormwood.
I know there are many who don't believe in God or the Bible, but for those of you who do, you will understand where I'm coming from.
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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 07:40 AM by cadaverousmob
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I visited the McDonald Observatory in West Texas and I was told by several astronomers about the fact that over 300+ planets have already been
discovered in other star systems.
For those interested in how they do it, look up spectroscopy.
My point is to say that Nibiru is not an impossibility. With over 300+ planets already discovered, anything in the universe is possible—except human
intelligence. hahaha
Please sign up at spaceweather.com for all the latest info. They send you free email alerts on any imminent solar storms, intense solar flares, etc.
You can even sign up for phone alerts but that's a subscription service. Remember, knowing is half the battle; The other half is working together.
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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 08:49 AM by dave420
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Surely we'd be able to detect a wobble in our star if such a massive body (be it a star or planet) was in an orbit. If we can detect binary star
systems across the galaxy, observing a star only 8.5 light minutes away should not be a problem. Couple that with the current Stereo satellites
currently observing the sun's ejections (and, co-incidentally the entire sky behind the Sun, data from which is freely available on the net), and
we'd have found something by now.
Saying you believe in this nonsense is ridiculous, as there's no evidence to support it. "Believing" in this is an open admission of wanting to
believe over needing to be convinced.
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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 04:12 PM by SpookyVince
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Originally posted by dave420
(...)If we can detect binary star systems across the galaxy, observing a star only 8.5 light minutes away(...)
The SUN is just about 8 light minutes away!
Duh... 
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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 06:19 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by BiblicalBeliever
I believe Nibiru is alive and well, and is coming. You can go back as far as Sumarian culture and find it in the writings.
Please show me where it says this... other than Sitchin... Thanks 
The Sumarian's knew well back then about the 12th planet, and what they mean by the "12th" and not the "10th" is, the Sumarian's included
the Sun and Moon within our solar system as planets.
Please show me your evidence... other than Sitchin...
The Sumarian's alone came up with the name Nibiru for this 12th planet, and the Sumarian meaning (term) for Nibiru means "The Planet (Body) of
Crossing" I find that very interesting.
Please show me where you read that... other than Sitchin...
you will understand where I'm coming from.
Yes I understand... you have read Sitchin
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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 10:38 PM by greywolfe1960
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Originally posted by Terrapop
The leaked pictures shown in the following video are allegedly taken by the Amundsen-Scot American SPT (South Pole Telescope):
www.disclose.tv...
What do you all think about this? Fake or first proof of what is to come? 
Not to say that I don't believe that there may be a brown dwarf and/or another planet out beyond the Kuiper Belt, but the pictures in this video are
obviously a fairly good computer generated images. IMHO
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