Lol wow...I doubt anyone would attack the US except maybe China but I do not see them doing it either. If the world attacked the US because of one guy they would be as bad as him, also invading usually means killing the people...I am not up for that one. Also if we fell the world economy would be kinda screwed and China and Russia would have a field day invasions wise.

Originally posted by GetOutOfMyRabbitHole

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Let me ask you this... if another country tried to invade the US, do you not think most citizens would stand up and fight for their country and the principles of freedom it was founded upon, regardless of who is in power?

Most would not because these are the very same folks that have been trying to get rid of guns for whatever reason. These are the same people that feel singing kumbaya will fix everything. These are the useful idiots that our enemies rely on to help destroy this country from within.

One year from now George Bush will be out of office and will probably be living in Dallas somewhere so invading this country to remove him from office would be a waste of effort.

My only question, how are all these theorists going to feel when their predictions of doom and gloom don't come to fruition?

It goes much deeper than the president. he is merely a frontman to what actually happens... or the way I see it is that they need a president for everything to be "legit" but what they do beyond that is severely f'ed up. They need someone to give certain technical stamps of approval.

Originally posted by Mabus
If a few rebublicans got removed what would other rebulicans do?

It's a reoccuring theme in the republics.

Maybe they would straigthen up?

Hard to believe though. It's not just a Republican thing, Democrats are sheisters too.... Nancy Pelosi for example.

I think a good portion of the Republicans started to distance themself from the Bush administration, but at the same time plenty of them have been paid in full to back up the admin. And on the Democrat side, we have snakes in the grass like Pelosi etc. who are helping Bush while attempting to badmouth him.

I think if we got rid of Bush another puppet will be thrown in the ring. This year it's going to be a Democrat.

Originally posted by Grimholt
I agree that many other countries would support Libertarian factions in the US.

Really now?

And which countries out there have these strong, libertarian feelings?

Originally posted by Grimholt
However this recent Balkans crisis is being used as a cover...there is a conspiracy here and people need to wake up.

So, you say there is a conspiracy...but you do not say what the conspiracy is, other than to promote Anti-American propaganda (it just HAS to the the fault of the United States! It just has ta!).

But let's play pretend, let's say there's a conspiracy. What is the motivation behind this conspiracy? What is the end-game? And what evidence do you have?

Is it conspiracy, fueled by the evil Americans, or is it just the Kosovars are regaining independence from a country that has ruled them (taken by force, BTW) nearly 100 years ago?

The world? Who are "the world" and who has the balls to try and invade the US? Plus the United Nations will obviously help protect the US therefore it achieves nothing.

i thought bush was already going soon

so it does not matter if we go to the USA to remove Bush becuase he is already leaving for the new president

im going for obama

It's going to take a war allright!

Yes Siree Bob. It's going to take a war. It's going to take a war, because the people cannot contain it any longer. It's going to take the next brave country to stand up and say that's enough. And it's going to take the combined powers of China, Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Venezuela, and more to do it.

Do what, you say? Do what even the Democrats cannot do: stop this warmongering administration from:

1) Expanding the Middle East war into Iran and Syria
2) Allowing this administration to seize impunitive power from the American people
3) Allowing the NWO to continue to expand and challenge the world

I believe that most of the rest of world understands. I believe that most of the rest of the world still has faith in the American people. But I also believe that most of the rest of the world is fed up with American government, and its insistence on meddling in foreign affairs to project its power and seize vital resources. If the American military cannot be pursuaded to defend this country from domestic enemies, then maybe it is befitting that it be destroyed by the might of an enraged world.

The situation with Iran is more than just a bad movie on a late night TV show. There is much more at stake. Not only for the American military-industrial machine, but for China particularly. An American-controlled Iran is probably the last thing that China needs, and yet is the first thing, now, in this administration's gun sights.

The beachead established in Iraq was a move to divide and conquer. Going into Iraq made absolute sense to those privy, while it was total lunacy to the innocent bystander. The UN, while taking its usual time, would have eventually cranked the pressure up on Iraq to the breaking point on its own without the need for military intervention.

But hey, Iraq as a beachead will serve its useful purpose. Not only did it put Iraqi oil under American control, but it allows unfettered access to its surrounding countries, particularly from a conventional weapons standpoint. And what lies directly across Iraq's eastern border? About 90% of Iranian oil.

Which Bush and his plump military-industrial machine are eying as does a lion an antelope. All under the same BS reason that he claimed Iraq: WMD's. In this case, Iran's supposed intent to acquire the bomb. Maybe this time, the American people will demand the solid evidence first? And from more than just our "trustworthy" intelligence and Israeli pressure.

Taking Iraq was just the crucial second step to American dominance in the Middle East. Because cruise missiles, by themselves, are just not enough.
But dividing and conquering can have its disadvantages, the primary being that it puts the enemy on more than one front. And the warmongers got lucky.

Had China, Russia, Iraq, Iran and Syria flexed their muscles jointly the minute Bush decided to attack Iraq, this situation could have turned out completely differently. Had those countries used the UN as a legitimate international reason to intervene, they would have been arguably as correct as Bush claimed he was in attacking. And once it was determined that all the WMD's in Iraq turned out to be more hearsay than truth, all the more reason.

HAD those countries intervened, some might say that would constitute world war 3. But would it have? Faced against not only the insurgency on the ground, but against heaps of incoming missiles as well as air support, I believe the combined powers of those countries would have been more than enough to keep Bush out of Iraq. Even if Bush would have sent the entire US military. And all this in a conventional sense, of course, because if anyone was stupid enough to use a nuke- well, we all know what would happen then.

When faced with the reality that conventionally the US couldn't stand a chance against a force like that- even with the help of hesitant allies- there would be only one choice: retreat or break out the nukes.

So now the question is, would Bush have used nukes in a case like that? Was he so intent and sure that Iraq was going to blow up the world that he would engage in global thermonuclear war to make his point and quell this wretched supposed threat from Iraq?

I think not. And from that position, I honestly believe that there really ARE others motives at play here. And not that it really takes that argument to make the point. Manufactured and exagerrated evidence taylored to suit agenda is the central point upon which this case rests. And it is the central point at which the world should have made its move.

The world may have been unhappy, but tolerating, of Bush going into Afghanistan, but remember that the world as a whole was staunchly opposed, for many reasons, to the US attacking Iraq. Enough damage had been done and enough people had been killed in retribution for 9/11 with the obliteration of the Taliban.

It's going to take a war. Yes Siree Bob.

I say its pointless since bush is simply a mind controlled scape goat doing what hes ordered to do by his handlers. the only way to stop this plan through direct confrontation is by going after the people that pull the strings from behind the scenes. but thats not advised as light workers have already placed their people strategically in their ranks and are now simply biding their time and letting the fools fulfill the prophecy and waiting as the the evidence stack up so they can condemn these monsters to the most horrible dimension possible. and not just the humans doing these things for greed and ego but the "fallen angels" pulling their string from their realm. its funny really instead of accepting their punishment they chose to learn nothing and continue to push themselves even deeper into suffering but hey at least humanity is going to learn an important lesson from all of this so they serve their purpose as the necessary bad guys in the end.