Illegal Immigrant Kills 4 Children, page 1
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Topic started on 22-2-2008 @ 12:21 PM by centurion1211
This really a horrific story and just one example of the problems caused by people that should not even be in this country.

Original News Article

A school bus and several other vehicles crashed in southwestern Minnesota, killing four students and forcing the first-arriving motorists to rush some of the injured to nearby hospitals.

The bus was hit by a van around 3:25 p.m. Tuesday on a highway south of Cottonwood. The bus then hit a pickup truck and tipped on its side, State Patrol Lt. Mark Peterson said. At least 14 people were hurt.

Other motorists also stopped and took kids from the driver. "You just wanted to make sure it was safe," she said. "They were screaming and screaming on the bus. There were so many kids."


Nothing much was said (for PC reasons?) about the driver in the original news story. Then (apparently reluctantly) the truth emerges ...

Driver Info

Illegal Alien Caused Fatal Bus Accident That Killed Four Students

“Among those killed were two brothers, Jesse Javens, 13, and Hunter Javens, 9, as well as Reed Stevens, 12, and Emilee Olson, 9. At least 14 other people were hurt.”

It’s a tragic story, with elements that, as so often happens, make little sense. The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that Morales has a “Minnesota identification card” but does not have a driver’s license. I’m not sure what a “Minnesota identification card” is, or how an illegal alien can get one. In 2006, Morales was convicted of driving without a license. It appears that, not only does Morales not have a license, she does not know how to drive a car:

Recalling that incident, Sandra Keding of Montevideo said in an interview Thursday that she had been reading the newspaper in her home that afternoon when she heard gravel flying.

“I stood up from the couch and looked out my window and this car was coming right toward my house,” said Keding, 45. “The car hit the curb, came right up on my yard and stopped about 12 feet from the front of my house.”

She recalled that Morales was driving and that she was “shaking all over and was a total wreck.” When Morales tried to shift the automatic transmission on the blue Dodge Neon, she couldn’t.

“She apparently didn’t know how to drive the car,” Keding said. “I had to get in and move it. She acted like she didn’t know how to shift.”

Police arrived and ticketed Morales for driving without a Minnesota license.

As a result of that incident, Morales was fined $182. It seems inconceivable that this prosecution could have been carried out without it coming to light that Morales is an illegal alien, but apparently no effort was made to deport her. She remained, it seems, an unguided missile on the state’s highways until her path tragically collided with that of a school bus containing 28 children. Here is how a witness described the school bus accident:

The driver of the truck told the Star Tribune of Minneapolis that he saw the van run the stop sign.

“I saw the maroon van run a stop sign, it blew over the railroad tracks and hit the bus, sending it sliding into me,” James M. Hancock, 45, of Marshall, told the newspaper from his hospital bed in Sioux Falls, S.D. “The next thing I knew, they were hauling kids out and it was chaos.”

It’s a sad story, for Morales as well as the families of the dead and injured children aboard the bus. But it is impossible to understand how anyone can try to justify the institutional refusal to enforce our laws that leads to such tragedies.


Some may try to say that this is only an isolated case, but it clearly is not. Our prisons are full of illegals, as are emergency rooms where they go for free health care. They are filling up schools and taking welfare benefits that should be going to needy citizens. It is simply time to send these people back to their home countries.





[edit on 2/22/2008 by centurion1211]


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 12:45 PM by ATruGod
reply to post by _Phoenix_



But thats just it we arent all the same and we never will be.

I honestly think its ignorant to think we could live in a world as one people when we have religions with different gods with different agendas (and ways of carrying them out).

Until we can all come to the conclusion that we are in this as one people (Humans) and that our Gods (or words translated as from our gods)shouldnt rule our lives we are going to have problems.


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 12:54 PM by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by ATruGod
reply to
post by _Phoenix_



But thats just it we arent all the same and we never will be.

I honestly think its ignorant to think we could live in a world as one people when we have religions with different gods with different agendas (and ways of carrying them out).

Until we can all come to the conclusion that we are in this as one people (Humans) and that our Gods (or words translated as from our gods)shouldnt rule our lives we are going to have problems.

I live in London, a place of a HUGE multiculture of different people from all over the world, I love it. It works, and yes we are ALL the same, but we are all unique, we can all learn from each other.

It's just genetics, once we get over that, we can move on to the next step and just get along.

[edit on 22-2-2008 by _Phoenix_]



reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 12:56 PM by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by centurion1211



so...
if citizens were not here legally, all the crimes they committed wouldn't happen

see, your post may have some logic to it, but it's not really logic that can justify things

there is no evidence that illegal immigrants cause accidents at a rate higher than legal immigrants or citizens
there's no evidence that they commit rape, murder, or any other crime in higher numbers than people with legal status...

so.....your logic is kind of flawed.


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 01:02 PM by mrmonsoon
reply to post by Crakeur



You are not looking at the correct comparison, C.

The CORRECT comparison would be the number of accidents caused by illegals divided by the number of illegals.

Sure, whites cause more accidents, but their are many more of them.

What you need is the number of accidents per person comparisons.


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 01:04 PM by centurion1211
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to
post by centurion1211



so...
if citizens were not here legally, all the crimes they committed wouldn't happen



Utter foolishness.

What's your point and what exactly are you trying to defend here?

Again, what about the rights of our citizens not to be killed or injured by people that should not even be here?
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