At the same time, What happened to " by the people for the people"?


I mean Iraq didnt blow up the twin towers...... Sadam didnt boast about doing 9/11.. but we are there...we have troops doing more then just their job now, my best bud / Piss mate ( shared a bathroom with him for 3 years ) he is Nav com for the army, well now hes Armory manager, 1st gunner for his sergant on a 50 cal while doing night patrols with the ANTI IED squad, What part of stretched thin doesnt this Government understand?

And What good is a soilder who is questioning the war to go an fight in it? Is he going to preform to the Code of the US Military if he doesnt feel they are living up to the Code of Life? Yes this is a War, But as more an more months past by, its seeming more like a War against people who dont live there an never have. I mean Iraq has turned into a Training ground for anyone who wants to fight the American Machine.

With the loss of Life so high, on both sides, are we really going to have a end to this war? we seem to only be stretghening the opposing forces by creating more Vengence and Anger. We went to Iraq becuz of a Dictator had to much power an control ina land that was too close to our Addictive Substance. And We wanted to have better control over that.

Even my good friend over there an his buddies are not happy an not sure about this occupation.

If someone is stating they are troubled over what they see over there whos right is it really then to make him go back an see some more things that will trouble him for the rest of his life...

How many people here have seen someone die? I dont mean peacfuly either.... I mean Straight up Dead at the moment you saw it. Ive seen people hit by cars, alot of car accidents really burnt alive, shot in the head, an these were things i saw either as they happened or right after the fact. Its very distrubing, I still have dreams where I see their bodies or faces, Specialy the women I saw get hit by a truck, there was a pool of blood around her head 3 feet in radius, We tried to revive her but she had lost too much blood an had too hard a head to the head both from the truck an the ground.

These things in life just can seriously change your way ot thinking an acting, and I think our goverment needs to start paying more attention to Honorable folks who A) serverd in the Military and
B) went for a 1st TDY over there.
Its not like he did this on his 1st term it was his second, what about the Gulf war an all that PTS disorders that were at such a high rate an the chems that alot of our soilders endured during that fight.

America Needs to be more for the People by the people.

I think both sides here went about it the wrong way.

Spc. Stewart seems to me by the comments of the article to be experiencing PTSD, he is not saying anything against the Army or the U.S., for what can interpret he is just afraid and tired of war.

The army should have treat him for that send him to get some mental evaluations and then decide if Stewart is fit for duty. Of course everyone knows how horrible is the Army at taking care of people with this conditions.

Spc. Stewart I don't know if he asked or not for treatment for PTSD but if he didn't then is the Army responsability to do so. Again that just what I can say by reading the article.

Man I have seen so many people alot of e-1s Directly Disobey orders from NCOs and Senior NCOs they get LoRs or LoCs, Deduction in Pay, and maybe if i can be their rank reduced, heavier charges will land you in Levenworth, But you need to be a terrorist an even then you most likely will goto trial an paraded thru media pools before you get the death sentence,

If Our military Killed soilders who disobeyed Orders we wouldnt have a military anymore. They get jail time over all, but they try an keep it with Locs Lors, Pay deduction or rank, with Jailtime being Last but not least.

I mean Ive seen my fellow soilders arrested for Selling E on BAse! as well as his people he got in trouble with sentenced to jailtime for running Prositution rings on base.

I would reenlist too seeing how they wave that 26,000.00 USD in your face or prolly more now a days, But people reenlist for a few reasons but the number one being Money... Our military flashes so much cash at you an promises out the whaaazing to re enlist its no wonder,

Reguardless, if he stated what was mentioned at the 1st post here, then he was entitled to evaluation an proper medical care.

So if Drugs and Selling women for sex doesnt get you killed Not wanting to Goto Iraq for a second term after youve witness Hell and carnage better only get you six months..... Anything further would be deemed BS by mass majority.



[edit on 22-2-2008 by Trance Optic]

"Germany, Italy, Korea, and Vietnam didn't invade or attack the US either.
If one only believes that the land mass of the USA, or their personal safety is worth defending, that's a pretty sorry definition of patriotism or loyalty. If on the otherhand one believes in the greatness of the USA, what it stands for/what it's ideals are(democracy and freedom for all), our way of life, and that its interests CONUS or OCONUS are worth defending, that to me is a better definition. "


1st off this isnt a World war, this is a Super power Occuping questionably a Nation with special intrests to america. Germany Italy was during world wars, Korea was a issue with Borders and North and South Concerns and Issues, Vietnam was well.... Pretty Cloudy for everyone.

Iraq well, Iraq has a Dictator, Like Venezuela, Cuba, Korea, and Iran ( although Iran is a trickier situation then to just say its a dictator ) But Im saying we are killing AMERICANS for the situation in Iraq that if we were to not go over there, Simply our americans WOULDNT of DIED!

its So simple, Im a Patriot who believes in DEFENDING AMERICANS, Becuz that is what AMERICA was founded apon, Protecting Our FREEDOMS, and Our RIGHTS to be FREE and Live a LIFE we wanted within reason, Im celebrating My FREEDOMs by stating an voicing My OPINONS about this matter an plenty of other matters.

Am I not a Patriot becuz I think Iraq is a waste of time?

Please explain how IRAQ was impeeding on Our FREEDOMs and Our RIGHTs? thus forcing response for 9/11.

Shouldnt we be ISO the perps of 9/11 and Not trying to rebuild a country right now? it seems more like a Short sighted way to Rebuild USA economy, or at least someones pockets, becuz America has just suffered from this war economicly.


I mean Really Im ex Military I gave 4 years of my life to this country AM i not a Patriot?

America Is america, we faught for america, against england for our Freedom, Yes we need to demand freedom for all else who want it, but at the same time, we need to be reasonable with our own Lives that are HERE on this SOIL that We FAUGHT for those freedoms. Then we can worry about others,

Gotta focus on your home before remodeling your neighbors.