I think war with China & Russia is not if but when and the government is planning this and the plan is now in motion..

First the propaganda machine our media is already getting the ball rolling showing images of the China military and asking why the no one is talking about them and how their power is rising. Many more subtle statements not just on Fox news but ALL of them.

Second Missile Defense Systems and Japan and Eastern Europe. We have an army In Japan to the east, S Korea and Australia and Taiwan to the south. Eastern europe and soon to be the whole middle east to the west. We are slowly laying our chess pieces into place and when its time we will put them to use. Iran & Iraq is just small potatos...just an energy grab to grease the military machine that is going to be rolled out when it is time.

It starts to become more obvious over this whole Pakistan nuke ordeal. We will soon find out troops in Pakistan "protecting nukes" when in reality we will be there "controlling nukes" I mean why do you think we have really put so much time and money into a rogue dictatorship if there truely wasn't something in there for us.

China and Russia knows this is coming and this is why they are doing a lot of military exercises together and sharing intel. Both are raising their defense spending and russia is pulling out of agreements and sending bombers and planes all over the world.

We have the space issue now all the countries involved are blowing up space objects. Basically seeing who can pee the furthest.

We now have this Serbia Kosovo issue that puts us at odds with them once again and Im sure we will set up bases in Kosovo to "keep the peace" and once again right on Russia and China's doorstep.

Ill the pieces are starting to come together and its not looking good.

So the question is why China? What would we gain by fighting and taking over a country like China? Ok well first off we owe China a lot of money. They have bought a lot of our debt and currency and recently is talking of selling it off. Kinda like what the King of France did to the Templars France owed the Knights of the Templar a lot of money. So instead of paying it back it was easier to wipe them out at the same time wiping out the debt that they owed.

Second off think of the money the Elite will make financing a huge world war including China and Russia. They will make a mint and it will cost them nothing. It will cost normal working class people sons daughters brothers and sisters...The elite..the ones who control this world I think some people call them part of this NWO their kids wont be going to fight this war.

Third the elite will now control a lot of slave labor in china and the worlds biggest industry area that china has built up to be. Once again making a mint.

Our Main Stream Media here in the US is so controlled and injected with lies and propaganda Steroids that if a War actually did start between the US and China/Russia, we US citizens would be the last ones to find out and know what was actually going on.

[edit on 21-2-2008 by CyberTruth]

Originally posted by CyberTruth
Our Main Stream Media here in the US is so controlled and injected with lies and propaganda Steroids that if a War actually did start between the US and China/Russia, we US citizens would be the last ones to find out and know what was actually going on.

[edit on 21-2-2008 by CyberTruth]

I dont know man if the bombs started flying I think it would be hard for us not to know about it. The government would need an army which right now is bogged down so they would have to draft.

I wouldnt fight the war.

I guess what I mean also is that -like many CTers are talking about these days_ is the fact that our Next big war might be with those powering all governments Or our own Government has already us sold out to the Russians and Chinese governments. We are just the People/Citizens - we would probably get along fine with russian and chinese people/citizens. It's the people controlling the governments calling all the shots and forcing us to pay the price with our labor or our lives that seem more and more to be the real common enemy here.

I usualy do not sustain such things, like tomorrow usa vs iran or things like this, but this time something is up, I can feel it.Things are just too tense, there are too many small conflicts over the world for power grab, kosovo is a dangeros event and it could be the chery at the top to start something big.I guess it all depends on the next NATO sumit where russia is going to be invited also.If that event does not solve things from there on I can see a war like the cold war era where every one fears from total distruction. So what is worse fearing nuclear weapons? or direct confruntation with airplanes droping convensional bombs, I think the main fear in a war would be what is going to happen next , just the thought of something happening what ever that is could scare the hell out of us.



[edit on 21-2-2008 by pepsi78]

I can try to imagine the US going to war with China. First thing China might do, is dump over 1 trillion dollars since they have been buying our debt or a large chunk of it. This act alone would devastate the US economy without even firing a single missle. Our money would be so devalued we might have to barter to buy bread at the grocery store. Maybe we could recover from this by the military drafting all abled bodied men and women. This would guarantee food rationing since our government might need to take over food distribution since we wouldn't have enough money to buy food anymore. Then China would have to do a major construction project building many transport ships to actually take the fight to the US. Our larger and more powerful navy would be very troublesome.

Next, the US is one of China's major customers. Their economy will be hurt by the US not buying anything from them anymore. Walmart would run out of goods rather fast since 10 percent of all goods imported from China to the US are from China. Many US companies that invested several billions of dollars would be crushed by their lost investments. Less income for them means major job losses here. Then we can actually get down to the fighting after China builds up a sufficient military force. We have a lot more nukes than China does.

So after imagining the above scenario, I really do not see why it would be to the US advantage to go to war with China.

This is freaky-trippy. as om trippy-freaky/ I was thinking this 2 days agoa nd wante to post but am too busy. China and Russia are a pact, I bet, I am certain. Haymaker blow from the left as Russia comes stright at you!

Originally posted by orionthehunter
First thing China might do, is dump over 1 trillion dollars since they have been buying our debt or a large chunk of it. This act alone would devastate the US economy without even firing a single missle.

This will probably happen. And the powers pulling the string know it. The next war will be the cause of Americas financial collapse and people will be blaming whatever country we are fighting rather than the real architects.

Then China would have to do a major construction project building many transport ships to actually take the fight to the US. Our larger and more powerful navy would be very troublesome.

Are you kidding me? World War 3 will not be fought on the ground, and it will not be fought by ground troops. China and Americas standing armies will probably never meet. Those kind of wars are over.


Bomb, second sweep of bombs, leave the bodies to rot. That is the tactic of the next war.


[edit on 21-2-2008 by NewWorldOver]

Just because China has the largest military, doesn't mean they have the resources to feed all their troops.

We do not have enough bodies to fight China or Russia even if we recruit
privat Armies from other countries. We are broke, our $$ are stolen by
Bush/Clinton/Cheney gang in Dubai or such. But it is only fiat paper any-
way. Bush is a Clone, thanks to alien technology. The Elite (Illuminati, Bil-
derbergers, Rockefellers,Rothschields etc) are controlled by Lizzies, 4th
density, Orion aliens, who want to stay in control of this planet, for we are
their food. They feed on our fear & blood. They feed on our wars & desper-
ations. They invade our dreams at night & try to control us, as we all have
chips embedded in our bodies from them. They monitor & try to control us
that way. They influence the Elite with greed, money & power delusions to
create chaos and wars on earth, so they can feed on the masses of victims
Their plans will fail, because their intentions are 100% Service to Self,
annihilating everything in their pass, including unbalancing earth. Opec-oil,
Dupont-poison-chemicals-plastic instead of hemp, Montesano-genetic seed.
HAARP, fluoride-water, chemtrails, etc...
All of it does not matter in 2012 anyway, as we will have cataclysmic
changes predestined for earth. You can die only once; the only way you
can get off prisonplanet earth is via death.
But if you ever want to be free, really free, change yourself to become
"SERVICE to OTHERS"

Originally posted by pluckynoonez
This is freaky-trippy. as om trippy-freaky/ I was thinking this 2 days agoa nd wante to post but am too busy. China and Russia are a pact, I bet, I am certain. Haymaker blow from the left as Russia comes stright at you!

Wow, I was really drunk. We can only hope for war. Put us out of our misery I say.

A scary, scary possibility.

It's just a shame that the lives of millions and millions of innocents are in the hands of a tiny, elite group of bitter old and twisted, morally extinct greedy and ruthless bastards...

Peace to the world.

Originally posted by NewWorldOver


Bomb, second sweep of bombs, leave the bodies to rot. That is the tactic of the next war.


[edit on 21-2-2008 by NewWorldOver]

Normally i wouldn't bother to consider modern super-state strategy without associated values, but the potential for China to muscle about a bit too heavy is there.

Let's say they do hit the economy, and that the U.S is left in a fairly fragile position concerning the future of it's independance from the rest of the world, what happens then?

Well, the Chinese could choose to fight, under the pretext of a pre-emptive strike.

Nukes will reduce all standing armies that aren't hiding away in underground military bunkers to nothing - only the steps taken to secure a military presence in the event of a nuclear war will be the steps considered worth taking.

How many troops can be packed into a bunker, I wonder?

My guess would be that not only are contingencies in place to secure the borders of the state after the fallout, but that there are training programs ready to be divulged to troops upon notice of nuclear attack, at which point they'd have about 40 minutes to get to the nearest bunker in order to survive the initial impacts - provided they don't launch from offshore missile platforms like destroyers or submarines and that they don't sustain a direct hit.

Never will intelligence be so vital in regards as to the location of these bunkers, as they represent a last hope for any dying elite.

To those who miraculously survive the bombings, remember that the State isn't quite dead yet.

edit; With that said, i can't help but wonder what the people in Charge of Area 51 would think if they discovered they had 2 nuclear weapons on a trajectory quite remarkably close to Groom Lake.

One last point; I think the Russians will be quite content to keep an eye on we European nations while China and America bomb the sh#t out of each other.

Mental Note: Super-state meatshield?

[edit on 27-3-2008 by Throbber]