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Where do you stand politically and why?

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posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:46 PM
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Ok, I posted this to see what alot of people were. Some people are democrats, some are republicans, some are liberals, etc. I want to know what you are and why, because I dont really understand what differentiates these political groups.




posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:50 PM
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I'm a Democrat for one reason. Al Sharpton. He's the man, and he's got my vote.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:50 PM
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Generally the main difference over the years is democrats want more governmental control and larger governement, while republicans are usually for smaller control and less government. Bush is opposite in that respect somehow.

Dems are for affirmitive action and appease more to the gays, lesbians, blacks, jews and so forth.

Rep are bible thumpers usually and believe more in national defense, hjave tougher foriegn policies and generally relate mostly with higher salaried white people.


I consider myself a centrist because my beliefs fall in both categories. I may lean towards Bush at time because of foriegn policy, but I prefer democrats view on the economy much better.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:51 PM
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I'm an anarchist libertarian because I think the government does more harm than good. Lessaiz Faire for business and excessive civil rights for the populace rock my jock.

EDIT: I have to say I support Bush's tax cuts, but I don't support his selfishness and greed.

[Edited on 2-17-2004 by insite]



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:52 PM
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I simply hate politics and politicians (to me, they're all alike) but I think my views ressemble views from the liberals/left wing.

I think, as I said, I hate politics and don't know much about it.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:57 PM
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I also dont really understand what left wing/right wing is about.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:01 PM
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Libertarian / anarchist...

I believe in total freedom, I believe people shouldn't depend on programs like the democrats want u on.

I believe in every man for himself, and if he makes his own way and becomes successful, I believe that the government shouldn't tax them more like the democrats do...

I also believe that if you are a lazy bum you need to move to some communist country where you can be told what to do because thats what you need, a babysitter.


Simple solution (support YOURSELF) they used to do it years and years ago before people started getting dependant on government, which is what they want so they can CONTROL YOU........ Stupid liberal idiots...

I wish you could all just leave the country and move to north korea or cuba..... At least you'll be happy there, they are all socialists just like you... Maybe also,
you can party with castro and tell him how much you like bathing in dirty water!!!

Stupid #s.


So anyway hun, liberals are basically people that are Major HYOPOCRITS, don't know they are hypocrits, not open for discussion, they can't debate without getting emotional first, they will try and destroy somebody's reputation if they don't like you, but when somene does the same thing to them they scream bloody murder, also liberals lie lie lie, and alot of them hate people that are successful from making their own way in life... They want more taxes, more programs, and more dependancy on the government system.... They don't research, they can't learn, and they stereotype....
Also they believe in AA which is racism .... Blantantly obvious....... Not to mention their morals are so out of whack it's what makes britney spears and christina agullera mentor children and teenagers... They believe in gay marriage (fine) but don't believe in equal opportunity for everybody, they believe people should be on programs because they can't take care of themselves, and if they do they deserve to be taxed to death for trying to work for themselves and not on the governments tit... ......

Anyone care to add to what a liberal is...............



did I mention I'm a libertarian/anarchist today???

basically that means total freedom....

But remember there are many STUPID people out there who can't live like that because they are too stupid to wipe their own azs. Thenceforth, they need someone to wipe it for them...








[Edited on 17-2-2004 by TrueLies]



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:05 PM
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Justanillusion

Don't know much about politics, but I think left wing = liberals and right wing = republican

I could be totally wrong, if so, please someone correct me.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:10 PM
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I would consider myself a Libertarian, though I have a problem with a few of their goals. Here are some primary principals of the Libertarian Party:

1. Legalization of drugs
2. Legalization of prostitution
3. Return to the gold standard as currency value
4. Dismantling of the FBI, CIA, DIA, DEA, BATF, among others
5. Return of all American troops based abroad to the mainland.
6. Reduction of American military force. Military to be used only in event of invasion.
7. Open border policy ( I kind of have a problem with this one)
8. Decentralization of government from Washington, to state and local.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:12 PM
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The left wing/right wing is referring to a spectrum type deal...as the more liberal a person is, the more left on the spectrum they become, and vice versa for right wings, the conservative side. As one moves towards the center, the more moderate their views are.

BTW peeps, all dems and reps or whatever don't fit into categories people seem to create. That is, 'liberals lie' or well, I don't know.

If the people put more into their goverment, the more they'll get from it, unless it's 'messed up'.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:13 PM
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Right wing = Conservatives


They are for a smaller government, well not this government........

Before this administration came along, conservatives believe in:


Logic, sensibility, independence, true equality, paving your own way in the world without government assistance, they don't believe in gay marriages, they were very religious, not sure if they are anymore...

Basically right wing is the better of the two because at least they can debate with sense and logic, not without getting emotional and name calling, which is what lefties do...


Notice right wing are adult like with the independence, logic, and calm nature... They stand up for whats right.

Left wing (liberal) need to be told what to do, they get mad quickly like a bunch of little kids, and resort to name calling... They actually don't think people should of gotten involved in Iraq even though sadaam was raping, torturing, and cutting people up in meat grinders, sloooowly... Also not he hung people on hooks by their skin, and would shock them genitals with electricity... Not to mention if you spoke bad about him you were basically toast... So even though this war was about wmd, the #er still needed to be ousted...
But left wing's don't care about others, they don't care about freedom... All they care about is themselves, to make sure they are right, they will go to the ends of the earth and back to make sure they get what they want. Like a little kid in the toy store screaming until he gets his toy, for whom? Himself...
did I mention they can't do anything for themselves??
They need assistance, just like a little kid.... These leftists are kids who haven't grown up, who have super ego's that need to be stroked... They will put anybody down who isn't like them ( kind of like a jock) and steal from the rich and give to the poor lazy bums that spawn stupid kids and such....

Yes i'm angry because I started talking about liberal commies...




now they are truly the repugnants...



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:15 PM
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It's easier to talk about the differences in the political PHILOSOPHIES of liberalism and conservatism than Democrats and Republicans because the latter groups are more confusing, and intermingle like teens at a rehab center.

With no intended disrespect to either, both Liberals and Conservatives are looking for change. More often than not Liberals want things the way they SHOULD be, and Conservatives want things the way the USED to be.

This sets up the confrontation and stalemate to progress, as either side see the progression of an issue in one direction or another (right or left) as a further movement than it really is, since they typically want the total opposite.

Most voters are seen as moderate, but actually are composed of a hybrid of both right and left positions. For example, most Americans are opposed to Gay Marriage (right) but are for a woman's right to chose (left).

Since Clinton it may be said that the Democrats (as a party) have moved closer to the center while the Republicans (as a party) have moved further right IMO.

I'm moderate with liberal leanings on most issues, but not all being a pro business person and relative grown up. Having said that, Bush would have to come a long way to meet me in the middle, but Edwards, Dean and Kerry are all pretty close.

Edwards is the most conservative Democrat right now. I can't think of a liberal Republican, but they do exist. Any pro choice Republican is considered liberal. Babara Bush is one, though she never held office.

Just some random thoughts to answer your question.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:17 PM
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None of the above, but that doesn't stop me from complaining about them.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by TrueLies
Basically right wing is the better of the two because at least they can debate with sense and logic, not without getting emotional and name calling, which is what lefties do...


Oh please...Again with the stereotyping...
It's getting old.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by TrueLies
Right wing = Conservatives

Basically right wing is the better of the two because at least they can debate with sense and logic, not without getting emotional and name calling, which is what lefties do...

[BLAH, BLAH, BLAH]

...Yes i'm angry because I started talking about liberal commies...


It took you one paragraph to go from pointing your finger to becoming what you say you hate... an emotional, no logic name caller.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by nathraq
I would consider myself a Libertarian, though I have a problem with a few of their goals. Here are some primary principals of the Libertarian Party:

1. Legalization of drugs
2. Legalization of prostitution
3. Return to the gold standard as currency value
4. Dismantling of the FBI, CIA, DIA, DEA, BATF, among others
5. Return of all American troops based abroad to the mainland.
6. Reduction of American military force. Military to be used only in event of invasion.
7. Open border policy ( I kind of have a problem with this one)
8. Decentralization of government from Washington, to state and local.





I don't agree with those either....
They need to put a little more thought into those, they are great ideas, but a little extreme nonetheless.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by TrueLies
Right wing = Conservatives

Basically right wing is the better of the two because at least they can debate with sense and logic, not without getting emotional and name calling, which is what lefties do...

[BLAH, BLAH, BLAH]

...Yes i'm angry because I started talking about liberal commies...


It took you one paragraph to go from pointing your finger to becoming what you say you hate... an emotional, no logic name caller.





Yeah but you fail to realize I have "reasons" for name calling......... Lefties don't....

muahaha sorry dude but lefties suck huge moose cock.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:25 PM
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This is how you debate "with sense and logic without namecalling"? Are you pulling my leg or drunk?

I'm hoping you're some closet liberal just here to make fun of Republicans by acting like a full blown unredeemed hypocrite... but I've seen you around, so I'm going with "drunk".

That's the nicest adjective I can think of to explain your "logic" right now. How bout pouring me one?



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:25 PM
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I am a conservative but do not prescibe to any party.

Bush is closest to my line of thinking (officially) but I can't stand him.

So, who knows who I will vote for, I haven't found him yet.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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From your descriptions of a liberal, I'd think you were. That's ok though, because I'm a lefty too. We have eachother.


I've met both liberals and conservatives who become rather emotional while in debates or what have you. And I think both stand up for what they think is right. AND both may frown over what they think is wrong or at someone just plain FREAKIN OUT



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