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Originally posted by HuntaXX
it might start out small like getting friends out of trouble or impressing a girl you like by getting into a famous restaurant without a reservation.
*laughs* i see you went to a lot of effort there but any intelligent person can see the massive gaps in your logic and the motivation behind your disinformation and since ive already done what i set out to do *waters the seed of truth* ill leave the educated people here to point out all your errors and the uneducated to believe whatever helps them cope with a reality they aren't strong enough to face yet. i am needed elsewhere for a bit but lets do this again sometime, never hurts to stay in practice spotting your kind
Originally posted by benign.psychosis
Originally posted by Nohup
For some misinformed and paranoid people, the NWO represents every horrible evil of the Nazis and "1984" and every sci-fi dystopia ever imagined, with mind control, concentration camps, and mass slavery. Where they get these ideas is anybody's guess, most likely from people who like to cook up fictions that play to people's basic paranoid fears and make a few bucks from them.
The ideas are also carried on and spread to other people by the misinformed. All one has to do is hear something about the federal reserve, and the next thing you know, they visit conspiracy sites,and communities such as this that only serve to reinforce their paranoid ideas. It is a vicious cycle.
As it is, the NWO will be created as a response to the increasing interdependency of all people and nations on the planet. The planet is becoming far too interconnected to let random catastrophes and the actions of a few people disrupt the flow of goods and information. As it is, a drought in Brazil has a huge effect on cattle production in Australia, which will affect markets in America and Japan. A farmer in Nebraska is directly affected by floods in the Ukraine. The problems created by this interdependency are too complex for any one country or stray group of countries to manage, and the U.N. has proven itself to be ineffective because it has no power to back up its judgments. And even with the economic power it has, it's not fair for the United States to have to bear the economic burden of being the world's policeman (or the world's rescue service, as in the case of the 2004 tsunami).
No power, exactly. The so called illegal war that is happening now is nothing more than a precedence for that ability. When the over riding body has the ability to ignore national sovereignty, then it can enforce order. Right now, the tool it has to enforce it is NATO, which is hardly organized.
The NWO will essentially be an administrative overlay on top of the currently international government structure. It would be mostly be involved in regulating and monitoring commerce by standardizing money and communications protocols. Other functions would include researching the planet to determine optimum population levels, and developing agencies for preparing and responding to large scale weather disasters such as droughts, blizzards, tsunamis or a possible asteroid strike.
It will be something akin to the federal government in its relation to each state of the union. The United States is an tiny NWO is disguise, and works great when it doesn't have to exert itself on the rest of the world. Each country is going to have to give up certain rights, just as each state gave up certain rights to get in the union.
Advanced technologies will be used in the monitoring process, and are a natural progression of current technologies. Tracking people (generally not individually, but at least statistically) will be necessary to determine contact routes and speed of spread in the event of a pandemic, as well as to find out ways to optimize power use and transportation services. The tracking will have some limited use for local law enforcement to locate and apprehend criminals. If you're not a criminal, that's a good thing! Otherwise, it won't be that much different than the cell phone you already carry, which can provide GPS location information.
An accurate depiction.
The thing most detractors don't seem to understand is that they are already under the "control" of several layers of government. The NWO would just be an upper layer. If you're not involved in any activity that is going to damage the environment or hinder commerce, it's really not going to be interested in you. And it's been proven time and again that the carrot works much better than the stick when it comes to increasing productivity, so rather than slave labor camps, what you're more likely to see are more jobs and social welfare programs that keep people healthy, happy and working hard to get more cookies.
The paranoids get the same idea about cops. The police protect the people that they don't have to interact with. It's the criminals, oddballs and whackos that exhibit signs of not being able to civily enjoy the benefits of society - trying to destroy the country with their shouts of conspiracy and control that they spew forth like a disgusting dank odor.
Originally posted by benign.psychosis
Originally posted by HuntaXX
it might start out small like getting friends out of trouble or impressing a girl you like by getting into a famous restaurant without a reservation.
How old are you, exactly? I would suggest that your young mind has been exploited by fear mongering propaganda. Don't worry though, you'll probably grow out of it.
Originally posted by HuntaXX
*laughs* i see you went to a lot of effort there but any intelligent person can see the massive gaps in your logic and the motivation behind your disinformation and since ive already done what i set out to do *waters the seed of truth* ill leave the educated people here to point out all your errors and the uneducated to believe whatever helps them cope with a reality they aren't strong enough to face yet. i am needed elsewhere for a bit but lets do this again sometime, never hurts to stay in practice spotting your kind
Originally posted by Maverickhunter
reply to post by Nohup
I can see the flaws of your logic Nohup. First, you think that a world government would be good. Exactly why would giving this much power to a small group of people be good? And how exactly is believing in a New World Order paranoia? The New World Order will not be like any other government. Under a New World Order people will probably not have elections. Countries will be forced to disarm. People will be sent to labor camps. People say that they are going to have too much power because it is known what happens in history when a single group has that much power. That group will be able to determine our beliefs. That group will take away our constitution. That group will take away our rights. It will erradicate our beliefs system. No their beliefs system is not better than ours, you see, they are trying to plan it so that everyone will gladly accept them, so they are forcing their moles into powerful governments so that turmoil can ensue and so that we will accept them because we won't want anymore fighting.
The New World Order will eliminate people who they see as a threat because they will want to maintain their power base. They have already released propaganda via Hollywood movies and the news. They already have got you thinking that governing is good. Governing is just a system of control. We only need control for countries with boundaries. They claim if they erase boundaries that they will be able to control the entire world. That works in theory, but, countries are so different from one another, that they would become unmanageable.
Yes, the New World Order does exist. George H Bush used the term "New World Order" a lot in the 1990s. It is not unclear as to what their objectives are. They don't want to govern they want control, as in, complete control.
Nohup, what you're failing to see, is, that even though they may have good intentions to serve as a upper level of the government that there are already people in power that want to control everyone. They want to control our minds. They want to make sure that we are without will. There are people that are also in power that want to keep that in check.
It's not so much that the New World Order would be bad it's the worry that there would be people that would be bad that would be running it. If evil people gain control of the emerging New World Order than it will be all over for us. If good people gain control of the emerging New World Order than it might do some good.
It all depends on what kind of New World Order is going to be in power.