BREAKING 9/11 NEWS: FBI Says Barbara Olsen Did Not Call Ted Olsen. Bush Solicitor General LIED !!

So, seems clear now that the phone calls that allegdly came from thos alleged flights were actually real calls from the mock hijacking exercises taking place on 9/11.

The operation was called Vigilante Guardian.

Umm no, his lie proves that barbara olsen was not on flight 77.

[edit on 27-3-2008 by IvanZana]

I found this great page tonight: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
It has a lot of FBI source files from that day.

Here's the one about Ted Olson:
intelfiles.egoplex.com...


In it he states he called the DOJ between two calls from his wife, however in a 911 Staff Report from 2004 (www.archives.gov...) footnote #268 it states the DOJ logs this call at 9:33. The last call from the flight was at 9:30:56 and lasted until 9:35:16. So, unless he put his wife on hold to call the DOJ, there's much more to the story.

I also found many more anomalies in these files concerning the other phone calls:

Thomas Burnett Call
Source: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
between 9:37 and 9:39 - Tom reports the highjackers are already talking about "flying the plane into the ground" (this was reported taking place in his second call while his wife suspected he already knew about the WTC crashes - why would he state into the ground? weren't they supposedly headed to Washington?)

Jeremy Glick's Call
Source: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
at 10:15 - Reported that Jeremy was still on the phone

from intelfiles.egoplex.com...
approx. 10:30 or later - Jeremy Glick is currently on phone (reported as Jeremy Lnu)


Todd Beamer Call
Source: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
10 people remained in first class (others reported they were all moved to the back - this is confirmed by Sandra Bradshaw below)

Source: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
after 9:43 - Todd reports "the airplane was about to be highjacked" also states the highjackers "were preparing to take control of the flight" (Tom Burnett reported they had highjacked before 9:30)

approximately 9:50 - Todd states that two hijackers entered the cockpit and one stayed behind in the main cabin (but the CVR already has two highjackers in the cockpit at 9:40 or sooner)


Peter Hanson call
Source: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
nothing strange in the interview with his father but in the Chicago's FBI timeline at 10:20am Central Time it was reported that Peter Hanson called Connecticut while the plane was still on the ground and reported "he had just seen a stewardess shot" (this is most likely the result of Peter's father calling the local police after talking with Peter...just proves you shouldn't trust a story after it's been through so many hands)


Sandra Bradshaw's Call to her husband
Source: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
after 9:50 - She states there were three highjackers and one was "seated in first class" and the others were seated in the back of the plane (all the highjackers' reserved seats were in first class, so if she meant this is where they were during the call, the CVR has two highjackers recorded in the cockpit starting at 9:40 or sooner)

She also states there were 27 people "in the back of the plane with her" (so 6 passengers were still in First class, but how could these 6 make calls from phones in the back as stated in the Moussaui trial evidence)


Amy Sweeney Call with Michael Woodward
Source: intelfiles.egoplex.com...
Amy reports hijackers sat in 9B, 10C, 9G, 9E... I won't mention the numbers are off... but what's really strange is there are no "C"'s or "E"'s in Business or First Class... they are labeled A, B, D, G, H, J

after 8:29 - Amy reports "the highjackers had just gained access to the cockpit"

nice find.

People would do well to research the links rather than except the opinions of ignorant people.

I beleive Charles Goyette. KFYI's Icon before he one evening questioned the war, he was fired like a dog and i was a witness to it all.

To get back to the real story, I beleive Barbara Olsen along with many met a very harsh fate on that day. I dont think we will ever know- furthermore, the relatives must know something went amiss on that day, and it wasnt the plane crash. At least not on the flight they were on.

MHO.

Umm no, his lie proves that barbara olsen was not on flight 77.

[edit on 27-3-2008 by IvanZana]

That end time does not mean it was the actual end of the call. If the call gets disconnected, the receiving end may not know right away that the call is dropped. not to mention the discrepancy between the two clocks for the different logs.

reply to post by snoopy

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snoopy, I think you're missing the point. Ted Olson said on that day that he called the DOJ and after that his wife called again. The DOJ says he called at 9:33. No phone call from flight 77 was made after 9:33, therefore he could not have talked to his wife after talking with DOJ. Also, I'm not buying discrepancies in the time logs as it is incredibly easy to synchronize servers with SNTP time servers, and I see many reasons for the DOJ and the phone company to keep theirs synched to a time server.

Ivan, make up your mind about the phones on the plane.
one post you give us the customer service rep saying those planes don't have phones and then in your other post you cut and paste where it says they did have the phones.
To me it is the only issue that needs to be resolved. For me to read another thread of yours I am going to need a good clarification from you why you are advancing both positions without retracting at least one of them.
Once again I am stuck between the Truther's and the Debunker's and finding it hard as hell to find the truth inbetween.

...Are some of you suggesting that there is enough evidence of a criminal conspiracy and there is not one attorney in the United States willing to take this evidence to a grand jury? (the chance for a prosecutor making $48K a year to jump into the headlines is just too tempting by the ego to not have been attempted)
If flight 77 had seat phones then this is a moot argument. If they did not have phones then the debunkers have absolutely nothing left to argue, they lose.

but that's not a very strong argument. how can you rule out that Ted simply isn't misremembering or that Barb also called from a cell phone? And who knows what other possibilities that are all much more believable than Ted being part of some caper that involved needlessly killing his wife.

But let's suppose Ted was lying. How does that prove that the whole thing was an inside job? Let's remember this is probably the smallest piece of evidence in the entire pile.

I'd also like to point out that there are already threads on this forum that have clearly debunked the claim that there were no phones on flight 77 and those same threads exposed Rob in his attempt to manufacture evidence to make his claim that there weren't phones. Not only do those threads include pictures of the actual records proving there were indeed phones on that plane, but also a press release from the airline confirming that there were. So let's end this no phones nonsense. Just use the search function.

reply to post by snoopy

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Snoopy, I never said this showed Ted Olson was in on a conspiracy. I just think he is not a credible witness. Barbara could have called from a cell phone, and in the file I linked to it even lists her number, so I would hope the FBI would have checked the logs for that to either confirm or deny if she used hers. So this doesn't prove an "inside job" or "no plane hit the pentagon", but I think it does show Ted Olson's account doesn't make sense and should be disregarded. I do believe his assistant was not making up that she forwarded calls to him, but as to the circumstances of them I will not accept Ted Olson's word. If he's misremembering then it's as worthless as if he was totally making it up.

I know plenty of men who would be more than willing to be a part of a caper to needlessly kill their wife. Hell, it happens every day. It's called domestic homicide.

I'm not choosing sides here, but to claim to know someone's true intentions of something is not very open minded IMO. For all we know, Ted could have despised his wife and wanted her gone. I'm not saying that he did, just that it could be a possibility.



www.silentwitness.net...

Well, I don't consider any eyewitness testimony credible on it's own. It's well known that people make mistakes and mis-remember things. And this is why during investigations such testimony is the last resort and simple there for reinforcement. I don't think that Ted's testimony is being used as any kind of strong point, but more so just a detail. The case is not balancing on his or anyone's testimony.

I think the testimony should be taken with a grain of salt. I think it's also fair to ismiss his testimony. I don't think your reasons for this are out of line. However there are many who woul use this to claim an inside job. Something along the lines of what the CIT guys do. Find the witness testimony that doesn't match everything else, and use it to dismiss everything else. But I see this is not the case with your argument and I think you have a very valid point.

reply to post by darkbluesky

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Maybe Barb used another cell phone from another passenger ?
So there is no record then ?

Come on man,
Ted was using a phone, was that a NSA hotline phone like in GOOD SHEPHERD ?

The proof lays with Ted's tall claims and 4 different telephone stories.

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