posted on Feb, 20 2008 @ 08:05 PM
With all do respect to everyone commenting on this thread, after reading each post I can only conclude that arguments such as these do nothing for the
betterment of our society.
A lot of important observations have been made and some facts have been laid out, but if no one here is a racist, then this thread needs to take a
We all agree, from what I have read, that violence is wrong no matter if its white on black, black on white, black on black, white on white or even
purple on blue etc.
Education is and always will be the key to solving these situations.
We all are in need of it from time to time no matter what we may think.
Yes, blacks were slaves to white land holders primarily (but not only) in the southern portions of the U.S. Blacks (in Africa) sold blacks, whites
bought blacks, whites sold and bought blacks. Slavery has gone on in every region of the world throughout time. There is no argument for who were the
most brutal as history can show Catholics were brutalized in slavery throughout Europe in a much earlier time but blacks as well were treated
inhumanely by many of their white owners. People were killed based on their race, religion and nationality and it is all wrong. Whether you believe in
God or not, it is simply moronic to think that we aren`t all created equally. Slavery was abolished by an amazing president named Abraham Lincoln in
1865. Since then, and yes it did take a long time, blacks have come a long way. Mentality of some white folk over time has never changed, thinking for
some odd reason they are better then blacks. Mentality of some black folk over time has not changed, thinking all white men are evil that think they
have some more God given rights then their black neighbors.
The only way to truly get past this is to actually give a shyt. If you want a better world for your children then you have to do the work.
Another amazing man, Martin Luther King Jr. put it best when he said "We shall overcome". He was absolutely right, and anyone who wants to can
overcome any challenge no matter how great it is. It has happened all over the world. In the early 1900`s, Irish (just one example) were denied jobs
by signs in store windows stating "Irish need not apply". Italians were treated poorly when they came to this country and even though I joke about
them (only the illegals), yes Mexicans too have been treated just as badly. Everyone I think can be added to this list if we do the research.
That being said, back to the matter at hand. In America the most recent atrocity visited upon one group of people was slavery, no doubt about it. If
you are not black, you really have to work hard to understand what it must be like to be in their shoes. It takes a long time for certain wounds to
heal. Even though there isn`t a black person in America who has experienced slavery in this country, think about how it must have been for those
slaves. Then think about how it must have been for their children to grow up in a divided society, many who accepted them but many who hated them.
They still didn`t have all the rights of a white person for a long time to come and there are many blacks living today who grew up in a time when they
didn`t have many rights other then not being a slave. Too many innocent people were killed even in the 1960`s (and later) just for the color of their
skin or for supporting the rights of others.
I have also lived in NYC (as another poster who stated has) as well as some of the outlying urban neighborhoods, and have experienced racism by some
blacks. But I have to admit for the most part, being the type of person who likes to fit in, minds my own business and tries to be genuine I don`t
seem to find myself in too many situations where I feel hated because I`m white. Most people can sense when something is wrong, can sense animosity,
and know when they`re not liked or wanted. Its pretty much common sense in my opinion.
I think a lot of black people are in bad situations because its hard to escape their mental confines. Again, its hard to imagine but you have to
realize the whole picture. When you are already feeling down and somebody puts you down, how much worse does it make you feel? This happens for all
sorts of reasons and isn`t only confined to racism. You can be overweight have bad acne be bullied in school, be a small chested female, etc. When
people try to hurt you it holds you back unless you are very strong. People who overcome challenges are the strongest and will out survive the
ignorant who try to hurt them. So it is obvious that many (most) on both sides want a level playing field and to achieve this is to stand together.
I have to say being white, I don`t think most white people understand the struggle. But at the same time I think it is totally unfair to blame white
people for crimes occurring against black people generations ago even if it were their ancestors. Each person should be looked at individually and we
should not base assumptions on one action as we need to see the whole picture and understand every situation is different and will cause different
reactions. Of course there will be a-holes on both sides. There is good and bad in everything and we can`t judge one group of people by the actions of
In my opinion:
Some whites need to be more helpful to showing blacks we aren`t racist and actually caring enough to be a true friend.
Some whites need to understand that it is much harder to accomplish the same goals if you are a minority.
Some whites need to understand we are a product of our environment and until we create a better environment for all (not just laws) we will all suffer
Some blacks need to stop blaming whites for their problems, and understand that they do have it tougher but they can still overcome any obstacle.
Some blacks need to look up to their very successful intelligent peers, (of which there are many) Oprah, Obama, Cosby, Jordan, just to name a few to
see that all is possible.
Some blacks need to understand that most whites want nothing to do with the slavery and racist mentality of past whites and do want us all to be
We all need to stand together as a people if we are to evolve as humans.
We all have common goals and must be very careful we do not let some powerful elite rule our world and divide us as a people. There are bigger
conspiracies that are intended against all of us and we are much stronger if we stand together.