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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 09:37 AM by Silenceisall
reply to post by Throbber



I think that we are getting into questions of spirituality and maturity of the inner voice. You can't force it, and it will not come unless you understand that it is there waiting for you to discover it. I believe that there is a correct way of acting, and it has to do with being in touch with that voice. If everyone were in tune with it, there would be no need for laws other than basic structural laws that impose a loose form on society but do not dictate actions of one kind or another. Otherwise, you would be looking at a school program that would indoctrinate children to prepare them for such a society, and punish them accordingly....counterproductive



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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 09:56 AM by Silenceisall
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I think you need to divorce the human element from the ideological one. Communism might have been fine, if the Russians had been able to deal with the heavy resonsibility. Capitalism is fine too, as long as people are not cutting eachother's throats and stepping on eachother to get to the top for the all mighty dollar. Anarchism is a kind of extreem version of Libertarianism, IMO, and it too would be fine if we were able to reach a state in which we could responsibly self-regulate and where we all deeply cared about eachother. You see, the human element is the key. And what is the human element. I think it boils down to what I call an inner voice, which itself boils down to spiritual maturity. You may have another opinion, but then...well... we are back to square one.


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 10:04 AM by Silenceisall
reply to post by Throbber



Yeah, the radical idealists tend to cause a lot of trouble, but second only to those who use radical idealism as a shield for their own aims...

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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 10:22 AM by Throbber
reply to post by Silenceisall




Sadly, of course - those aims tend to be the reason why people get all uppity about social change in the first place.

It's almost ironic that someone would use the ideology of those who know the explicit reasons why society is broken in such a way that contributes to that breakage.


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 10:29 AM by Silenceisall
reply to post by Throbber



Even more sadly, looking back over history, I see that the only leaders of ideological countries that have been true to their word and had intentions in line with the ideology itself, were leading a nasty ideology. Take Hitler for example. Nasty man heading up a nasty ideology, but he was true to the ideology and chose death when the ideology itself was crushed.
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