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posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by Dreamz
I to have seen Kerry in person along with Dean, Edwards, Kucinich and Sharpton and I came out most impressed by Edwards and Sharpton. Kerry seems to dodge to many questions and at Marquette the other night Edwards had a classic line aimed at Kerry for dodging a question, Edwards stated, "That is the longest answer I have ever heard to a yes or no question."

Colonel is one of the people who will blindly back someone because of political affiliation and not issues. He is more concerned with spewing out false hatred towards issues he has no clue about then worrying about the real issues at hand. And if he had any clue about his own parties voting records and issues, he might think twice before blindly backing someone. He will criticize you because you actually took the effort to attend a real campaign stop, while he sits at home and reads here say about # he doesnt have a clue about.

Its ignorance and blind hatred that makes me absolutely disgusted of certain democrats. Especially the kind that think they deserve more than others.


Look, fool, I know what I'm talking about. If YOU knew what you were talking about, you would never support Sharpton b/c he is being funded by the repugnants. HE SOLD OUT! So, I have nothing but bile for him.


If you knew what everyone is talking about then you would obviously see I never said I supported Sharpton. I said I was most impressed by him and Edwards over the other DEMOCRATIC candidates.




posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:00 PM
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Colonel, I voted Bush in 2000...does that make me a repugnant?



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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OX, if you watched the State of the Union any year Bush was president, Colonel will call you a repugnant.


His lack of knowledge is made up by his massive amount of name calling.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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Dreamz
Colonel is one of the people who will blindly back someone because of political affiliation and not issues. He is more concerned with spewing out false hatred towards issues he has no clue about then worrying about the real issues at hand. And if he had any clue about his own parties voting records and issues, he might think twice before blindly backing someone. He will criticize you because you actually took the effort to attend a real campaign stop, while he sits at home and reads here say about # he doesnt have a clue about.

Its ignorance and blind hatred that makes me absolutely disgusted of certain democrats. Especially the kind that think they deserve more than others.

I totally agree with you. Kerry dodges questions far too much. I don't mind Edwards, I think he's a good person, but I don't really agree with much of his ideas. Of all the candidates he's the best, but I won't vote for him. As for that last statement...
:hail
I agree 100%)

Colonel
Did you vote for Bush? If you did, you are a repugnant.

Actually, I didn't. I didn't vote in that election. The choices sucked anyway. Read my sig.

Please, continue to put words in my mouth. It just makes me look better, and you worse. Colonel, you're into party politics, are you not?



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by OXmanK
Colonel, I voted Bush in 2000...does that make me a repugnant?


Yes, and you and the rest of your ilk are responsible for all the ailments that this country is now undergoing.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by joehayner
Actually, I didn't. I didn't vote in that election. The choices sucked anyway. Read my sig.

Please, continue to put words in my mouth. It just makes me look better, and you worse. Colonel, you're into party politics, are you not?


You didn't vote? Then, you have no room to complain about anything!:bnghd:



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:10 PM
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Wow, I personally view myself as a centrist, but if I lean anyway, it is normally toward the left. The fact that I voted Bush does not make me a repugnant, but rather someone who was scorned by the previous administration. I, however, did not think Bush would screw us (debate for another day).



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:12 PM
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How were you scorned by the previous administration? Everyone was happy. Our economy was a pwoerhouse. We were the envy of the world. How were you scorned?



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:17 PM
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Colonel, who allowed China most favored nation status? After you find out what administrationt hat was go to 10 manufacturing plants and ask who they lost most of their business to since China was allowed most favored nation status?

Then come back and tell me the economy started to fall when Bush took office. For every action there is a delay in the reaction of all possible outcomes. Especially in politics.

Remember the Soviet Union didnt fall under Reagan, but rather under Bush. Does Bush Sr. get the credit for that, or was it all Reagans doing?



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Dreamz
Colonel, who allowed China most favored nation status? After you find out what administrationt hat was go to 10 manufacturing plants and ask who they lost most of their business to since China was allowed most favored nation status?

Then come back and tell me the economy started to fall when Bush took office. For every action there is a delay in the reaction of all possible outcomes. Especially in politics.

Remember the Soviet Union didnt fall under Reagan, but rather under Bush. Does Bush Sr. get the credit for that, or was it all Reagans doing?


Ahh, practically every country has MFN status. What is the big deal if China got it too. What changed since China just joined the rest of the planet with MFN status?



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
How were you scorned by the previous administration? Everyone was happy. Our economy was a pwoerhouse. We were the envy of the world. How were you scorned?

Bull! Ask the military if they were happy. I seriously doubt it. My family wasn't very happer either, taxes just about set them out on the street.(and they live in rural wisconsin, it's freezing)

And just because I didn't vote doesn't mean I don't have the right to voice my opinion.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:20 PM
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The whole Lewinsky thing. And don't go, "Aww not Lewinsky again" But because of Clinton not being forward with us about it, it launched an investigation that wasted how many millions? Also, there were things that he did to take everybody's attention off of it. The original WMDs rallying call, bombing aspirin factories and empty lots. I don't care so much that he tried to cut military spending, but Intelligence spending is always needed and he did attempt to cut those. Yes the economy was good, but he didn't do all of the right things. And I thought Bush would not screw up the good things that we did have, but I was wrong...which is why I will not vote for him again....(It would take Kerry removing his shirt and seeing a swastika on his chest for me to vote Bush again. Also, him coming forward that he eats dead babies would probably make me change my mind too.)



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:22 PM
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Don't tell us things were peachy under Clinton. Things may not be great under Bush, but it sucked just as bad if not more under Clinton.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:31 PM
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That a bunch of crap and lies and you know it!. We had the greatest prosperity ever when Clinton was president! We had the lowest unemployment under Clinton! Tired of your LIES! Maybe, if you did so bad its because you all didn't want to work.....



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by Dreamz
Colonel, who allowed China most favored nation status? After you find out what administrationt hat was go to 10 manufacturing plants and ask who they lost most of their business to since China was allowed most favored nation status?

Then come back and tell me the economy started to fall when Bush took office. For every action there is a delay in the reaction of all possible outcomes. Especially in politics.

Remember the Soviet Union didnt fall under Reagan, but rather under Bush. Does Bush Sr. get the credit for that, or was it all Reagans doing?


Ahh, practically every country has MFN status. What is the big deal if China got it too. What changed since China just joined the rest of the planet with MFN status?


Where do you think that all the jobs are going and all the manufacturing companies are having to order their materials from just to stay competitive with the rest of the industry. China offers the largest manufacturing trade partner in the world and charge prices that are far below what americans can make or get the products for. They are able to do this because they pay employees like # and the cost to run a business is much cheaper in China. I know this because in my fathers tool and die company, clients he has had for years have had to go to China to have their tools made for them because it is the only way they can stay in business with everyone else ordering from China.

If you think that Chinese jobs are more important than American blue collar workers, than so be it...I see it in a different light and it wasnt brought forth by the Bush administration.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:37 PM
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Don't they do the same with India? Mexico? S. America? Why is that all Clinton's fault.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:45 PM
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Yes colonel they do, but the abundance and the cost charged by China is far cheaper and much more abundant. The fact that manufacturers can order steel, aluminum and other metals at 1/3 the cost they could anywhere else in the world by ordering from china does nothing but hurt, steel workers, common blue collar workers and everyone related in manufacturing. Ordering from China takes away jobs that Americans would have otherwise had.

That is just from my own personal knowledge of the issue, this does not include the price of electronics, plastics, compounds and other stuff related to the manufacturing sector.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:49 PM
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So, this is Clinton's fault.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 03:52 PM
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Im not saying its wholly Clintons fault, the congress makes the laws, he just approves them. Both republicans and democrats voted for it, majority being democrats. Am I pissed Clinton passed it, yes.....

Remember the riots in Seattle, there was a reason.

[Edited on 17-2-2004 by Dreamz]



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dreamz
Im not saying its wholly Clintons fault, the congress makes the laws, he just approves them. Both republicans and democrats voted for it, majority being democrats. Am I pissed Clinton passed it, yes.....

Remember the riots in Seattle, there was a reason.

[Edited on 17-2-2004 by Dreamz]


No, the majority were republicans.







 
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