Discovery Channel Drops Plans To Air 'Taxi To The Dark Side' Because It Is Too 'Controversial', page 5
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reply posted on 20-2-2008 @ 11:24 AM by freighttrain
Originally posted by Neariah
reply to
post by Pellevoisin



wow I'm sorry I didn't know you were so up to date with legal right??? so I"m sorry these muslims have legal rights to go blow themselves up in school yards??? teach their innocent children that they can only get their point across by klling everyone in their way... First of all the troop surge worked ,,, the people that want peace their want us there.. we are not staying there unwanted... the government wants us to stay.. and the government that was there before we helped take them down was creating genocide... the numbers are in the milllions of ppl killed slaughtered and murdered by saddam... by the way you speak I can only assume you are anti american and thats ok everyone is until they need are help.. I pray that a third world war does not happen either.. bc they all started for the blakans... but lets get it straight the americans did not start the wars... we did help finish them.. we have to clean up the worlds mess all the time and that is the truth of things.. God Bless America !!


You don't get it... just like the idiots that vote for Bush to start with. THEY ARE DEFENDING THEIR COUNTRY>>>> you would do the same if China or Russia started to bring the military in US and invade your country, kill your loved ones... you can't just point a finger at the "effect" you need to figure out the "cause"! OPEN YOUR EYES>


reply posted on 20-2-2008 @ 12:39 PM by Neariah
reply to post by freighttrain



are you seriously going to sit there and say that we started everything... maybe you need to catch up on history .. I'm not saying i'm just saying


reply posted on 20-2-2008 @ 02:03 PM by freighttrain
Originally posted by Neariah
reply to
post by freighttrain



are you seriously going to sit there and say that we started everything... maybe you need to catch up on history .. I'm not saying i'm just saying


It has nothing to do with pointing fingers... it simply a FACT. I don't see ANY OTHER country invading another country across the world as much as US has! Do you? Yet US is the ONLY country in Afghanistan, Iraq, China, Saudi, Korea, Cuba and now threating Iran... building an army base, prisons, threatening other ethnic lives by destroying their homes, children, stealing their OIL in the name of "freedom"??

I have a friend in the US Army, he tells me pretty much EVERYDAY all they do is patrol OIL tanks from Iraq to US Military planes! They got shot at by these so called terrorists, trying to stop US from stealing their oil.

Let's talk about the history, or do you really want to! America does NOT have a pretty past, in fact what is happening today is what was happening in the past, the past is repeating itself. US in nature is a violent country, I'm not talking about just the government, but they breed this "fear/hate" with the public to use them to their own advantages, to support government to start wars, to fund them. Probably explains why US has the highest number of civilian deaths by 80% compared to #2 country. The entire country is being used and abused by this unconstitutional acts, paying Income tax, did you know that is illegal and if you don't pay your taxes you end up in jail. Only country with no medical care, one of the most underfunded education system. Educate yourself, heres a link might shed some light on the past war histories.

www.globalissues.org...

It's not about being "patriotic" it is about being "PRO LIFE" helping the world to become more peaceful is much different then invading another country in the name of so called "freedom". The amount of money US invested in War just with in the last year, they could have fed every single homeless person in the entire world for years.

Don't you see , you're being used by your own government in the name of being patriotic. You think you're actually standing up for your government, yet you refuse to question the people running your government. Guess some of us like having a blanket over our heads so we could just live our lives, pay our bills, watch tv and stay nice and safe at home not knowing the TRUE reality of what really is happening.



reply posted on 20-2-2008 @ 09:59 PM by iamcanadian2
reply to post by TrueAmerican



Here is a link to where this film is being shown in the US.
thinkfilmcompany.com...
I also noticed that this film was playing in some Canadian cities...This is a worthwhile film to watch. I managed to download this film and then I sent the link to another forum and when those members began to watch it, the film disappeared...My guess is that this is a film that would cause the government to have some kind of influence over the Discovery channel. This film would cause the masses to sit up and take notice. I have burned some DVD's of this film and have started to pass it around. This is a film that should be part of history and should be part of all teaching curriculum, however I think that the powers that be will not allow this to be taught in schools.
a must see documentary
Debbie


reply posted on 21-2-2008 @ 12:49 PM by Neariah
heres' the problem.. I completely agree that too much money is being wasted. I am not a fan of war and I definitly don't whorle heartetly (sp?) agree of trust my government not by far... but lets get something straight.. I'm going to stick with my country and government.. I'm not going to go and join another one. Yes education sucks I say it all the time.. ppl are being corrupted and ppl are being brainwased... it's completely obvious when they spend 48 hours talking about paris hilton and brittney spears the whores of america on the news...Our National freakin news.. is it a ploy to get ppl away from whats really going on in the world?? OFCOARSE!!!!!... But I believe in the Christian Apocalypse and believe everything must come to pass... It says ppl will diminish themselves from their lack of knowledge.. real knowledge we are failing to seek the truth.. but by me supporting our troops that in many ways defend what is left of my rights I am not being ignorant or blissfully patriotic I am being loyal because that is all I have to offer.. I may not agree with you entirely on your stand point of AMerica is the big bad wolf because for one belive these terroists are crazy and they are exactly that brainwashed terroist and they have no fear of anyone or anything. They are not killing themselves bc we envaded their country .. I think you forgot a little day called 911 when they mercisly hijacked our planes and flew them into our tours killing thousands of innocents on our land.. ugh sorry that doesn't fly by me too welll..


reply posted on 21-2-2008 @ 01:48 PM by freighttrain
Originally posted by Neariah
heres' the problem.. I completely agree that too much money is being wasted. I am not a fan of war and I definitly don't whorle heartetly (sp?) agree of trust my government not by far... but lets get something straight.. I'm going to stick with my country and government.. I'm not going to go and join another one. Yes education sucks I say it all the time.. ppl are being corrupted and ppl are being brainwased... it's completely obvious when they spend 48 hours talking about paris hilton and brittney spears the whores of america on the news...Our National freakin news.. is it a ploy to get ppl away from whats really going on in the world?? OFCOARSE!!!!!... But I believe in the Christian Apocalypse and believe everything must come to pass... It says ppl will diminish themselves from their lack of knowledge.. real knowledge we are failing to seek the truth.. but by me supporting our troops that in many ways defend what is left of my rights I am not being ignorant or blissfully patriotic I am being loyal because that is all I have to offer.. I may not agree with you entirely on your stand point of AMerica is the big bad wolf because for one belive these terroists are crazy and they are exactly that brainwashed terroist and they have no fear of anyone or anything. They are not killing themselves bc we envaded their country .. I think you forgot a little day called 911 when they mercisly hijacked our planes and flew them into our tours killing thousands of innocents on our land.. ugh sorry that doesn't fly by me too welll..



It's your last statement that I have a problem with, I believe 911 was an inside job, based on all the evidence I've seen without a doubt. I mean MANY evidence. Regarding religions, I have nothing against anyone's religion, but personally I believe religions are all MAN written and is being used to as a fear tool to take sides and break people apart. All it's positive aspects of it, is commen sense. It has nothing to do with spirituality. You can be spiritual and not be religious.

Again I'm not saying America is bad... I'm saying the people running are bad. and People like you that love your country NEED to stand up for your land and freedom. It's not about loving your country, that's granted, but it's about support ALL LIVES (pro-life) around our planet. Don't you see... we're all ONE! We should all stop all this non sense before it's too late.


reply posted on 21-2-2008 @ 04:41 PM by Leo Strauss
Originally posted by Neariah
... But I believe in the Christian Apocalypse and believe everything must come to pass... It says ppl will diminish themselves from their lack of knowledge.. real knowledge we are failing to seek the truth.. but by me supporting our troops that in many ways defend what is left of my rights I am not being ignorant or blissfully patriotic I am being loyal because that is all I have to offer.. I may not agree with you entirely on your stand point of AMerica is the big bad wolf because for one belive these terroists are crazy and they are exactly that brainwashed terroist and they have no fear of anyone or anything. They are not killing themselves bc we envaded their country .. I think you forgot a little day called 911 when they mercisly hijacked our planes and flew them into our tours killing thousands of innocents on our land.. ugh sorry that doesn't fly by me too welll..


From the National Review


David Cook: Referring to Sunni Islam, the principal beliefs are:
1)There are a series of signs or portents previous to the end: moral and social decay, natural and cosmic disasters, and political events that will demonstrate in an incontrovertible manner that the end is about to happen.
2) A tempter, or Antichrist, called the Dajjal will appear and lead the world (with the exception of true Muslims) astray. Almost everyone will be subject to his tribulations, but just before he succeeds in annihilating the Muslims, Jesus will come down from the heavens and kill him.
3) There will be a messianic age, led by either Jesus or another messianic figure called the Mahdi. This latter figure will conquer the entire world and convert everyone to Islam.
4) After the time of the Mahdi, then Gog and Magog [cf. Ezekiel 38, 39; the Islamic version goes by the name Yajuj and Majuj] will invade the world and destroy it.
5) God will bring the world to an end.




reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 08:46 AM by iamcanadian2
Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to
post by iamcanadian2



you managed to get a copy of it?


Yes I did and I do not know how I did because I had already read on this ATS thread that it was pulled from the internet. As soon as I saw I was able to watch it I downloaded it. For some reason I was able to download it all except the first few minutes of the film. I have burned a few copies and have been passing them around to friends and family.
This is a documentary that needs to be seen by the masses.
Debbie


reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 08:25 PM by thebeard
Hey, just saw that HBO has now aquired the rights to "taxi to the dark side" and will air it uncut in September.

Here's the link.

Also the article says that the discovery channel will retain basic cable rights and will air it next year.

I managed to watch it before the google vid got pulled. It was very good and I think everyone should see, pity it will be a while before it airs here, and then only on cable. Hopefully it will pop up again before long.


reply posted on 23-2-2008 @ 01:48 AM by TrueAmerican
reply to post by thebeard



Hey thanks very much for that update. But wow, next YEAR? crappola.

Why in the heck are they going to wait that long? Oh I see, they're going to start advertising it to death and build up the anticipation? Grrr.

Ok. I learned my lesson with this one. Next time we find something like this film, we need to go about it differently. I was so thrilled just to find it, I didn't think that the attention would cause it to get pulled- and still not sure we had anything to do with it. What's a few hundred views or so?


reply posted on 23-2-2008 @ 04:07 AM by thebeard
reply to post by TrueAmerican



I kinda think that they are waiting just because it is an election year and they don't want to catch flak for trying to influence the election in any way. As you can see HBO is airing it in September so they are totally cashing in on that fact, sorta like Fahrenheit 9/11 and the 2004 election. John McCain is featured pretty prominently as a good guy in this film mind you.

I think that Discovery may have shelved it for a longer time, but since HBO is airing it, they don't have to worry about being the first and catch flack for it. So they will wait until HBO airs it, gauge the reaction and then maybe air it themselves.

Everyone is trying to save face and no one wants to be the one to speak out. Kinda sad if you ask me. I think that films like this should be available in more ways than just waiting till it airs on tv... I'm glad it will air, but I wish I could send the link or a dvd to more people to watch it. I'm glad I managed to catch it myself. To all those who didn't get to see it, it'll come.

I also don't think there is any way you could have prevented this getting taken down unfortunately, two big cable networks now own the rights so the copyright police are all over it now.


reply posted on 24-2-2008 @ 10:08 PM by papiowhisperer
I'm having a real hard time wrapping my mind around the culture of detainee abuse...

I just got through watching

MKULTRA Perpetrators (#11) (a)

over at you tube and it dawned on me that TPB wouldn't hesitate to use these technologies on their own troops and probably already have it mounted on Humvees.

The Discovery video showed many mind control techniques already used on detainees, why not add the troops to the mix?

[edit on 2/24/2008 by papiowhisperer]


reply posted on 25-2-2008 @ 12:07 PM by Apsaroke
Here is my take on it.

Discovery should have aired the show. I'm not a big fan of war as an act, but I do think that there are times where war is justified. I do oppose the Iraq war.

When it comes to war, just get the job done. Last man/woman standing wins. End of story. Engaging in mass killing of another group is one of the most horrific places that you can take your soul to. And if you're going to go there, you don't try to adopt nice little rules to try in a lame attempt to still be able to call yourself civilized.

As long as this country keeps the images of war out of MSM, Americans will continue to be divided over the war. If the average American had to deal with the ugliness that war brings, there would be very little division anymore which would apply much more political pressure to end this war.

Perhaps if all people were forced to be up front and personal with the horror that is war, then perhaps we'd be less casual about going to war. But if circumstances prevail that war is inevtible, then you don't wrap a pretty bow in it. You slaughter everything and everyone in your way. You don't leave kids as orphans to be adopted by the next terrorist group, you don't leave villages standing that may later turn out to be harboring the very groups that are trying to come after you, and so on. And yes..if a "suspect" from the enemy may have information, you skin that sob alive one strip of skin at a time until you get what you want out of him/her or they die.

If you want civilization, you don't go to war. If you want to go to war, do it right.
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