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reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 08:31 PM by Zaphod58
Originally posted by muffet
To Ironman:

Contrails evaporate quickly. And planes on destinations do not make circles, nor do they make X patterns or basket weave patterns in the sky.


They don't make X patterns or criss-cross huh? Look at this picture from the FAA taken in 2006 of the radar picture over the United States. This is when air travel was still DOWN something like 10% after 9/11.




Every one of those yellow dots is an airplane flying over the US. This was a TYPICAL DAY over the United States, I believe it was taken about 2pm EST. Please tell me how they're NOT going to make X patterns or criss-cross, or how some of them are NOT going to be put into holding patterns and circle.


reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 08:38 PM by OzWeatherman
reply to post by Zaphod58



Nice post mate

Seems that ironman doesnt believe that planes can actually cross the paths of other aircraft. Maybe he thinks they all fly in the same direction



Its incredible that the image was taken when the air traffic was reduced


reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 08:40 PM by jmt18325
reply to post by muffet



Really, they don't make Xs or circles? You've never heard of holding patterns? On top of that, with the number of aircraft in the sky, there is no way that they can avoid crossing each other. They would have to cross very often.

Sorry, but they aren't trying to kill you.



reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 08:42 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by OzWeatherman



If I remember correctly it's actually HIGHER than it was on 9/11 now. And with the A380 entering service we're going to see the same number of planes (or more) with a LOT more people flying now. I really wanted to find a more recent picture than 2006, to show how bad it is now, but that was all I could find. That's bad enough, you can't even see the borders of the US on the screen.


reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 08:59 PM by OzWeatherman
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Yeah, its is incredible. What I find amazing is that chemtrail believers claim that chemtrails have been seen only for the last decade or so. Check this link out, in contradicts their alleged time frame and supports ours

contrailscience.com...


reply posted on 14-3-2008 @ 03:10 PM by Shakesbeer
Originally posted by OzWeatherman



Yeah, its is incredible. What I find amazing is that chemtrail believers claim that chemtrails have been seen only for the last decade or so. Check this link out, in contradicts their alleged time frame and supports ours
contrailscience.com...


I like how the contrailers seem to be the best air traffic controllers in the world because they sure seem to be able to tell you exactly what's over your head at any given moment without actually being there. Simply amazing fellows, you must be psychic weathermen. let's give the self-vindicated a hand...






reply posted on 15-3-2008 @ 12:14 PM by Shakesbeer
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Oh I don't know, it could have SOMETHING to do with the fact that many of us that don't believe in chemtrails have worked in the airline industry, or around aircraft, or have studied how they operate for years, or even decades.


So because of that you know exactly what is going in the skies above any given person at any time? Because honestly that is what I see 9 out of ten times on here be it UFO's, chemtrails, etc. Something doesn't sound like what the so called "experts" say it is, so obviously the observer is wrong. Despite the fact they where the ones who where present at the event not the "expert".

I see assumption after assumption because I don't punch a time card at the air force, delta airlines, or am a "weather man" I cannot comprehend the physics of what's going on in the air. Let a lone be able to look in the sky and say "hey, there's a new flight pattern going on in the sky over my home that I have been living in for years. Wow that's new...but the guy I don't know on ATS from another part of the world tells me it's not there, so I must be mistaking."

If we are going to start posturing like that on here, I guess since I am a graphic artist I will start to negate anything anyone says about images in general unless they do the same type of image work I do. Sound fair? Sounds more like a game of egos to me. I know most sightings are bs, but honestly I have no idea why some people even come to this site if they are such hardcore skeptics that believe solely in a happy Einstein-relativity bubble, or say stuff like "only sites that count as references have .gov or .edu at the end" at a conspiracy website...

Don't get my wrong, the input/info you share is informative & valuable. However it appears having an "open mind" is more of a romantic ideal to many here then the rule.

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