I'm Shocked! 18% of Americans Believe the Sun Orbits the Earth! , page 2
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reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 01:09 AM by bigbert81


Just a little treat for ya'll.

Tell me what you think.



[edit on 2/22/2008 by bigbert81]



reply posted on 22-2-2008 @ 07:30 AM by runetang
I'm not shocked.

Until a person makes me think otherwise from opening their mouth and communicating, I assume everyone is probably stupid (in person), its operating proceedure for society. it works out, no misunderstandings, i wont sit there and explain something regarding the depth of _whatever_ is being discussed only to get confused looks and awkward face expressions like they don't understand.

When I was in elementary school, kindergarten through 5th grade, and even 6th through 8th grades, there was always a prevailing feeling of .. being dumb was cool, not doing your work was good, not knowin the answer was cool, and no participating was the way to be. But even then, even then, when push came to shove I did my assignments, got the grades to pass, kept them quietly so no one knew I was "smart". Being smart wasnt cool at all, at least for a boy. Girls however, we all thought their life dream was to be "smart" at all times .. kinda funny how less women pursue a study into the extreme levels of education to earn a doctorate degree or what not. By then, at that age, other things become more important than stupid school work, just like our boyish stuff was more important as kids. There's plenty who do, (women who become doctors) just statistically, since their are more men involved to start with at that point, the vast majority of people who seek such a high education in America end up being men. It's like .. (my guesstimates) 7 out of 10 doctorate holders are men, 3 are women. Sound right?

And so i grew up with this prevailing thought that being smart was not cool.

But secretly I knew I had no choice, I'm not a genius (I don't think I am by any shred, I'm not that deluded) .. but I am naturally intelligent. It's from that really early education being pushed onto me by Mom when i was just a toddler, getting me through the deception of games to learn the alphabet, and how to spell, long before most would've, and always being in some advanced "english class" in public schools.

Funny, after dropping out of high school, then getting my G.E.D, there I was, in public school, state community college (I pay for it but you know the state helps teh school), taking college level english, even though I had never completed an english class post ninth grade. According to them, I had a college level reading and writing ability based on placement testing. Good thing I dropped out of high school or wouldve had a Diploma and an S.A.T. score which I would've undoubtably bombed bad, thus probably getting remedial english in college. But no, I had no S.A.T., so I had to get the "college specific placement testing" for that particular college, which was quite indepth and did go to a level of difficulty in some subjects. I admittedly didn't do quite as well on, but that test kind of ..proved once and for all, to me, that intelligence and capabilty with a language ie; communication or expressing oneself came from something inbedded very, very early in life, before puberty, and then this base form is used to learn the higher levels there-of. without the base, you cannot understand the higher levels.

And so .. 80% or more of society, they never got the base to begin with, and can't hope to understand. They were told just go to school sit down shut up. They believed all they were told. Thought nothing for themselves and the realm of possibility, were too busy being pushed by their primal urges to mate and thus have the fly gear and the most expensive shoes.

So when you see stats like that, it's just reflective of the deep, ugly fact that doesn't like to be shared that the vast majority of society really is stupid, dense, have little to no schooling, or desire to learn outside of school via the two eyes attached to the front of their learning receptor. They all bought into what I assume most of us here at ATS bought-out of early on .. which was this culture of ignorance on purpose.

peace MIMS


reply posted on 26-3-2008 @ 08:53 AM by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by Zealott



probably because 90% (bs number) of "rocket science" is simple geometry...

honestly, i actually have used the "useless" stuff i learned in school in life so far.
i've used algebra to help me budget things
i've used the pythagorean theorem to figure out some landscaping

and honestly, a lot of the "useless" stuff just helps you be a more well informed human being.


reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 07:58 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Heronumber0



your examples make NO sense. Alcohol is both good and bad for you because it is okay in moderation. If you drink 1 drink a day, your cholesterol is improved, and your risk of heart disease goes down. if you drink excessive alcohol, you gain weight, destroy your liver, and possibly harm yourself while intoxicated.
No one knows how many people bird flu will kill because that isn't strictly science. knowing that would be predicting the future.
And global warming is the same thing. you are talking about predicting the future. but there is scientific consensus that greenhouse gases warm the environment. People who do not agree with this statement are on the fringe. they could be correct, but are not in the scientific majority.
You say that we should teach people about "life's impact on the environment" but if you think that global warming is not scientific belief, then why the hell should we teach about the impact on the environment?

Scientists KNOW that the earth revolves around the sun.

I can forgive a small percentage of people for not knowing that the earth revolves around the sun, because some people never took physics, or heard about the history of gallileo. but those people SHOULD know these things because the story of gallileo shows that you should question what is "known".


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 12:50 PM by dave420
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand



What are you banging on about? Could you try to rephrase that post in some form that makes sense? I'm sure you have a decent point, but that was just gibberish.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 06:44 PM by letthereaderunderstand
reply to post by dave420



Banging...dude I laugh every time I see that. Yeah I'll rephrase my question.

Proof. I want verifiable proof that the world is round...for the dumb peoples sakes. I don't want pictures, I don't want video, I don't want theory, I don't want "your an idiot". I want to witness for myself Proof that the earth is a globe and that the sun isn't in the sky.

I want someone, anyone, who has gone far enough out from the surface of the earth to see its Globe. Again, i don't want ufo abductees, or nasa engineers, or scientest who haven't been to space. I want real people who have really been far enough out to witness.


I want more then two people to verify this with evidence we can all agree on as valid. Don't answer unless you've gone to space or your answer isn't valid.

In short. PROVE THE EARTH IS ROUND and PROVE THE SUN ISN'T IN THE SKY, not with big numbers or models.

Again, call me dumb all you want, but don't let that be your defense, have actual proof and I'll be the happiest dumb guy in the world.

Peace
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