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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 07:57 AM by kosmicjack
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Hooray for you. Then those same classes should have taught you that the differences are largely superficial in nature. Even chimpanzees differ only
slighty from humans when their DNA is compared.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:00 AM by fiftyfifty
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Hi Jedi, Once again another interesting thread of yours! I don't know a lot about the bible so I have a question. If god put these different races in
these different locations.. at what point in history did he do this? According to the bible, was man put on Earth before the continents drifted apart
or after? If before, then your theory cannot be correct as they would have all been on the same single continent. I am also a bit confused about the
existence of dinosaurs. Humans and dinosaurs didn't co-exist yet the bible mentions nothing of the creation of this species.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:02 AM by jedimiller
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But see they aren't superficial at all. They are genetical. Different from the inside and out. Genetically different! People make it out like it's
just the color of the skin. Place an Asian person next to a Gyspy and you would clearly see the atomic differences in everyway. it's a good exercise
to perform. Make a list of both and write them down. hope this helps.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:03 AM by kosmicjack
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Apply your logic to dog and cats, or any other species for that matter. Do dogs at a park need to be sorted by breed in order to play? No, they're
all just dogs running around. It's no different with humans on Earth. We may look different but we have the same frailties, strengths, needs and
desires. But you know this, so I'm done.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:04 AM by Freeborn
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Originally posted by jedimiller

....Are gorillas the same as chimps or femurs?
Can gorilla's mate with chimps and femurs and produce off spring?
No.
So how can Caucasians mate with Negroids / Chinese etc and produce offspring?
Your example proves you wrong.
As others have posted, we are the same race; the human race.
As for Big G's intentions.
Who cares?
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:12 AM by realism
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Originally posted by ANOK
God didn't create different 'races' he created one, the Human Race.
What we consider 'races' is very slight variations in certain features evolved through environment. We all are the same buddy, created equal in
every way.
I'm sure you know that it's commonly thought that all Humans came from Africa, from the same place? We all have a common ancestor, meaning the only
difference between you and a Chinaman is that billions of years ago your ancestors didn't settle in China.
You might not realise it but thinking of 'races' in the way you are could be construed as racist. Nothing a little education wouldn't fix
though... 
Love it!!!
also it is a scientific fact that black DNA is capable of making white DNA but NOT the other way round, in other words there was only one race in the
begining and like anok said people then developed and evolved acording to their environment, really and truly what people consider to be different
races is just the way a human being from the HUMAN RACE adapts to his or her surroundings.
I am Jewish and my soul mate is Jamaican, but we only ever have to discuss it when deciding if it's chicken soup with matzo balls or fried dumplin
and mutton!
i wish people could celebrate their differences rather than fighting about them, intergration may just be part of evolution? there are more and more
mixed race children in the world than ever, can't you see that as a sign that love wins over hate?
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:13 AM by jedimiller
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The think I don't get. Why question me? you guys should be questioning god. if you got home and someone placed colored eggs all around your house
wouldn't you want to know who put them there? and why they did?
Why did they place the green eggs in the garage and the white eggs in the master bedroom.
it's clear the separation of races occured around the world. we want to ask ourselfs why did the creator do this.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:20 AM by realism
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I don't mean to be rude or try and undermine your beliefs, but you are talking about people as if they all just suddenly appeared in different places
around the world! remember that when the world was new the land was joined??
there was one race and as the world developed so did human beings, also we have always had a desire to explore and travel, it's not unthinkable, if
you imagine a sort of ripple effect, with africa at the center and the first humans at the center, and then gradually the earth and its people moved
outward until we got to where we are today. i mean obviously its' not as cut and dry as that but i reckon that's the basis of it all
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:23 AM by Freeborn
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Why should I question God?
I don't even care if he exists or not. It is irrelevant and unprovable so why would I waste time questioning someone or something who cannot or will
not reply to me? It would be a complete waste of time and effort.
Look at the facts.
There is reasonable scientific evidence to offer genuine explanations for the diversity within the human race.
Where is the evidence to suggest anything else?
There is none.
Other opinions are based on blind faith and / or bigotry.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:31 AM by jedimiller
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Originally posted by Freeborn
Why should I question God?
I don't even care if he exists or not. It is irrelevant and unprovable so why would I waste time questioning someone or something who cannot or will
not reply to me? It would be a complete waste of time and effort.

We shouldnt question him. But we should understand his actions. For example, why did god give you eyes? to see. Why did god give you a mouth? to eat.
Why did god give you legs? to walk.
We have to understand the action and effects of his makings. if you don't believe in god at all, then you will never believe my posts. Because you
are not understanding how god created us. Forget all you know about evolution. this thread is about god creating us, plain and simple. It's not
about scientific explanations at all.
The premise: god came to earth, started creating each species, race, animal, plant and placing them around the world. if you believe that then you
must believe that he seperated the races for some reason. All I could think of is to keep us from killing ourselves.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:43 AM by 44soulslayer
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For crying out loud, i will mention this only once.
Humans can be sub-categorised into races, and there are certain differences between these races.
However there is nothing to be gained from dividing up the human species into these races. Who really gives a flying monkeys excrement about
whether god "intended" anything or not. If it happened, it was willed by god.
Jedi, you keep asking why god "placed" people where he did... This is a total non-sequitur from your point about the differences in the human genome
arising from people's environments. God placed nobody anywhere, they evolved to suit their surroundings.
To use the ridiculous egg analogy mentioned earlier, if you leave one egg out in the sun and one in the shade, their external appearance will change.
God did not design "black" people and plonk them in africa, and then decide to design eskimos and plonk them in the arctic. They evolved with their
own phsyiologies simply because they had to adapt to their surroundings.
Capische?
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 11:25 AM by WraothAscendant
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We question you because your theory is silly, racist and totally massively disconnected from reality.
If you want to tell me god is a nit wit that has impossible expectations for her/his/it's creations then I reserve the right to laugh at you.
If he/she/it wanted to keep the races apart we wouldn't be together as we are now.
Especially as you describe the Christian God.
It's an easy excuse to say god wanted us to remain separate but where is your proof?
Especially because your statement supports so much racist bs babble.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 03:28 PM by forestlady
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If God didn't know the races would be traveling around the globe and mixing, don't you think that kind of says God is not impotent?
So you're taking an unestablished theory of yours, that the races were created in separate parts of the world (which BTW, DNA testing shows that
we're all originally from Africa and weren't geographically separated, but anyway...) and stating what God's intention was...not based even on
anything Biblical, but you still think you know God's mind...isn't that blasphemy in your religion?
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 03:31 PM by forestlady
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Originally posted by jedimiller
But see they aren't superficial at all. They are genetical. Different from the inside and out. Genetically different! People make it out like it's
just the color of the skin. Place an Asian person next to a Gyspy and you would clearly see the atomic differences in everyway. 
Firstly, it's not "genetical", it's "genetic". Secondly, I think you mean "anatomical" not atomic - unless I missed something.
We are far more alike than we are different. But then you don't seem to believe in science, so I guess that won't persuade you.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 04:08 PM by ANOK
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For peats sake Jedi the genetical [sic] differences between the races is so minute it's not even worth considering. The only real difference comes
from the environment they settled in.
 Human genetic variation is confined to approximately 0.1% of the total genetic composition. The most common polymorphisms (or genetic differences)
in the human genome are single base-pair differences called single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs). About 99.9% of the human genome is identical in
all humans
Source
(sry it's wiki but the statement is true regardless)
And again God did not make any race but the Human Race....
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 04:39 PM by Bean328
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Originally posted by jedimiller
The think I don't get. Why question me? you guys should be questioning god. if you got home and someone placed colored eggs all around your house
wouldn't you want to know who put them there? and why they did?
Why did they place the green eggs in the garage and the white eggs in the master bedroom.
it's clear the separation of races occured around the world. we want to ask ourselfs why did the creator do this. 
i dont get why it is so hard for you to realize that what you are saying doesnt make any sense.
God created 2 people. adam and eve. as the population grew and continents drift apart and migration and such. everyone ended up in different parts of
the world. which means that everyone was exposed to a different climate and weather. these factors had an effect on everyones physical appearance.
this is wat we see as races today. for christians and God there really are no races because everyone came from the same adam and eve. i dont have to
question God because i am not ignorant and i kno what happened. there isnt a book missing explaining different races.
i didnt evolve from a monkey or ape and the fact that human and monkey or ape DNA isnt of any interest to me because small differences in DNA can
determine rather you breathe water or absorb radiation. DNA is complex to were small differences in it can mean huge variation.
God didnt create different races. for you to even question or play with the idea that God is racist is blasphemy. i think mostly everyone here has
pretty much proven you to be null and void.
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reply posted on 24-3-2008 @ 08:21 PM by kosmicjack
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Originally posted by forestlady
Originally posted by jedimiller
We are far more alike than we are different. 
I would like to go the record as saying that, unequivocally, I am not like JediMiller!
Simmer down...I am just kidding. Bless your heart, JM.
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 01:41 AM by Zealott
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You're asking questions and I am only trying to answer them. It's a natural battle for dominance creatures all around the world do battle with each
other for their ecosystem terrain and all that. Bugs fight other bugs lions battle with other prides(And sometimes elephants.) And humans find it easy
due to technology and wits to dominate all the other species on this earth. Now what is the human's natural advesarie? Other humans. So peaple
naturaly ban together according to color and culture to fend off other groups of humans. It seems to me not because one group is more superior to the
other but becase of the threat that humans bring to everything they're around including other humans. Maybe racism is a completely natural
occurence. Like the extinction of the neanderthol.
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 02:15 AM by ANOK
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I like to think, as a Human Being, I am above the animalistic fighting of disparate groups of people.
I agree we're animals too but aren't we supposed to be civilised? Above the other animal rabbles? I do wonder though when I'm out mingling in
society...
So maybe I'm wrong? Go ahead lick yourself clean, I give up...  I'll put a bowl of water out for you...  hehe peace man, I'll just give ya a
star....
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reply posted on 25-3-2008 @ 07:47 AM by realism
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Actually, the thing that sets humans apart from other animals is that we are the only creature on earth that drinks another animals milk to sustain
our early years, (parasite behaviour) and more disturbingly we are the only animal that KILLS for FUN!!! think about it, mass genecides, war,
torture.... the list goes on, you don't see lions killing other lions just because they were bored or they didn't like the colour of their fur, when
an animal kills another animal it is a blatent act of survival, either they were a threat or they were food!
The fact is, humans aren't really very nice at the moment at all!
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