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reply posted on 14-3-2008 @ 11:35 AM by Ogre14t
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 Originally posted by riley
Originally posted by jedimiller
Because maybe for god separating the races was a good thing. We don't know what he was thinking. and I don't know what he was thinking. but
obviously, we have evidence that all the races began seperated in time. How would you explain that a region has all the same race? 
They all evolved to suit the climate obviously.
lets talk russia for example. why was there no blacks in russia at the beginning of time?
1. At the beginning of which time..?
2. they get less sun in russia.. there's no reason for them to have very dark skin to protect them from the sun.
why weren't no Mexicans in russia?
because Mexicans come from Mexico.. Mexican climate caused them to evolve into 'Mexicans'.
why weren't any chinese in russia?
see above.
these are the questions we have to ask. perhaps god, figured it was a good idea to keep them apart at first. and whatever his reason was? I
don't know. could be to keep us from killing eachother, could be from spreading disease;could be a 100 reasons. that's why we are here to ask these
questions.
They started off the same 'race' [african or possibly asian] and then split apart.. it's the seperation of one race that caused them to
evolve into several different races.. they didn't start off being different. We are all related.
Things like sickle cell force me to consider the fact were never "all one race" the fact that there are genetic differences between the races leads
me to believe that life may have begun in multiple locations at the same time. i wouldn't consider this to be a bad thing. All it would mean is that
our world is even more diverse than what was thought. Unfortunatly political correctedness will keep science from ever testing this theory. Even more,
archeology has discovered 2 fossils of anciet ancesteors to modern humans nicknamed "Flatface" and "lucy". Both of these species lived at the same
time and science believes one of them died off. I do not think it is outside the realm of possibility to consider the idea that they both survived and
evolved. Skintone can be explained away by climate, height and weight by terrain. But i fail to see that we all started in Africa, migrated to Europe,
decided our hair could be straight and we diddnt need sickle cell anymore. Theres too many genetic differences for me to believe this.
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 06:12 AM by jedimiller
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Originally posted by interestedalways
Using the premise that god didn't want the races united was because he could see the potential for a global world order and possibly he saw this as a
negative to humanity and the rights for each race to have it's own set of cultural rules, etc.
Just an idea.
and that's a great idea...somehow you worded it better than I did. 
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 06:19 AM by gmac1000
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which god are you referring to there are clearly many lower or demi gods but each have different agendas for themselves and the human race....if that
particular god wanted to seperate the races then why would that be.....never be a 1 when we can't commuicate to begin with...
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 06:36 AM by jedimiller
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Originally posted by gmac1000
which god are you referring to there are clearly many lower or demi gods but each have different agendas for themselves and the human race....if that
particular god wanted to seperate the races then why would that be.....never be a 1 when we can't commuicate to begin with...
Well, I refer to the God i've had experience with. not the one in the bible entirely. so i'm not coming from a 100% christian point of view. the god
I know lives at the end of the universe. He is a giant. he has people working for him and he uses "Creation Energy" to create things. He does not
come to earth, but is aware of earth and he sends us back here and recycles our souls. so when you ask what god, I can't give him a name, but just
god.
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 09:13 AM by Rasobasi420
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Originally posted by jedimiller
the god I know lives at the end of the universe. He is a giant. he has people working for him and he uses "Creation Energy" to create things. He
does not come to earth, but is aware of earth and he sends us back here and recycles our souls. so when you ask what god, I can't give him a name,
but just god.
Hmmm, your god sounds like a combination of Galactus and Emporer Xenu.
An interesting thing to worship.
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 12:35 PM by gmac1000
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That is all very well but i see you think creation is Masculine when polarity seems to only be a rule of material life therfor doesn't comply in
levels in which you talk about ...The all true Creation is not a one person as you might think but everything you can think of and everything you can
not...
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 12:38 PM by gmac1000
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Originally posted by jedimiller
the god I know lives at the end of the universe. He is a giant. he has people working for him and he uses "Creation Energy" to create things. He
does not come to earth, but is aware of earth and he sends us back here and recycles our souls. so when you ask what god, I can't give him a name,
but just god.
Hmmm, your god sounds like a combination of Galactus and Emporer Xenu.
An interesting thing to worship.
Not to mention the Reptillian God that is indeed a giant and is very much into recyling sould due to the fact that His race cannot evolve like us due
to their choice in the technology path instead of the Spiritual one to the true divine source
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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 06:38 AM by Zealott
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So let me get this right.. God the supreme creator, alpha and omega. Created the earth the universe and... is a *snip* Is that what you're telling me
OP?
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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 01:36 PM by gmac1000
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I would say the "God" of Duality and the physical world is...The All true devine source of all creation Is An un-explainable, un-comparable and soooo
complex that We would not even be able to Question Anything about it while me remain in this Plain of existance...The sooner we understand that as a
mass the sooner full Awareness can be obtained.
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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 02:01 PM by quintar
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It's hard to understand something from a point of view of higher consciousness/purposes.
We're judging by the good/bad scale, with is a sliding scale. One person's good is someone else's bad. Perhaps there is no good or bad. Only
purpose.
So what if you meet God and he tells you that on some level, a genocide is a good thing. I can't explain how it is a good thing, but if he tells you
it is, and explains, and then you understand the 'good' reason behind it, you won't look at it as bad any longer.
Not to make this personal, but I'd like to ask you Jedimiller, how is your interpretation of God's 'reasons' is different than a preacher, who
starts out 'What I think God meant to say was'.... ?
At the end of the day, you are still interpreting in place of the being/beings who actually made the decision, and from seeing how 'advanced' humans
are, I don't think any of us have that capability to make those assumptions.
Peace.
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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 07:27 PM by gmac1000
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I coundn't have put it better...So i won't
A pleasure you know you exist...
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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 08:17 PM by 44soulslayer
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Originally posted by jedimiller
He didn't know that we would migrate, build machines and invade other countries. He knew that the different races that he put on earth would meet,
but he didn't really expect Americans to go over to Africa and take everyone as slaves. He didn't expect Americans to invade a country like Iraq and
star killing everyone.
Ignorance like this makes me seething mad with rage. I dont even care that your original premise was racist, i can tolerate your ignorance. Its when
you make statements so blatantly stupid such as the one quoted that i get annoyed.
First of all, who are you to JUDGE God's plan for earth? Who are you to say that he didnt intend slavery?
Next- What sort of God do you believe in? Is the god you believe in not omniscient (that means all knowing)...?
Everything that you see around you is Gods will on earth. If you really believe that god made a "mistake" and didnt see the different races meeting
then you have an incredibly arrogant view of humanity and a very low estimation of god!
Im sorry for being so agressive, but your post demanded harsh words from me.
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reply posted on 20-3-2008 @ 09:43 PM by ANOK
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How could God have intended slavery? Since when did God revoke free will?
If God had intended to control what we do then why did he give us free will?
Free will means we are to blame for what we do, not God. If God micro-managed what the Human race does with the life it was given then what
would be the point of him sending his only son to die for us? He could just control us to do what he wants, no?
God doesn't bless you with wealth for being a good person. God doesn't make wars for oil and torture people. God didn't create the monetary
system that benefits the few at the expense of the many. God didn't make bush president and no, God doesn't talk to him. God is going to punish
the Human race because he wants us to do these things?
The only people to blame for such acts as slavery is us, Humans. It's the ultimate arrogance to constantly shift blame for we do, whether
it's on God or anything else. And to think God might have wanted slavery is just rediculase, even though you were probably just trying to
make a point.
Humans enslave Humans because of this Human invention called capitalism, created by those that think they deserve more than others and can't control
their animal instincts of greed and fear. A real Christian value that one, eh?... 
It's not jugging God it's understanding what the message is...I'm not even a Christian...lol Some of you who think you are are in for a brutal
shock if what you think you believe is actually true, ironic ain't it?
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 10:39 AM by Astyanax
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Originally posted by THIseNdsnowoldKings
The children born of more tan one "race" tend to be smarter, more charismatic, and more physically fit.
Cool Freudian-ish slip there.
It's true, us mongrels do tend toward the tan. Personally I love it. Smooth, silky skin whose complexion is a subtle mix of honey, rose and
chocolate... irresistible.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 11:08 AM by Choronzon
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One logical fallacy that i see in the OP argument is that you assume that God interacts with the physical world.
Intervention implies bias which is a flawed human trait.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 07:20 PM by gmac1000
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Originally posted by Choronzon
One logical fallacy that i see in the OP argument is that you assume that God interacts with the physical world.
Intervention implies bias which is a flawed human trait.
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I think as soon as people get a better perspective of "GOD" the better they will become....the days of seeing God as a big bearded guy in a chair
above the clouds is a little long in the tooth not to mention slightly insulting...
I doubt he can even picture or imagine what the Soutce truley is...So Why do we??
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 07:37 PM by Thinker_1
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See, this is where some secondary education might help. There are oceans and land masses due to plate tectonics and different races because
people floated around on those plates that took them to different climates which resulted in the different races. Black skin is the result of
constant sun exposure in tropical locales, white skin the opposite. Secondary education. Whether God intended this or not remains unclear - it might
just be a mechanism of the physical laws God put into the universe. Maybe God never dreamed that we'd be so stupid as to worry so deeply about skin
colour so never gave it much thought.
If the Bible is to be believed as literal or metaphorical there is a lesson in it you might benefit from: Moses married a Cu#e - a black woman.
Moses wasn't white by the way, he probably resembled Bin Laden more than George Bush or you. Either way it was racial intermingling which Aaron and
Miriam objected to which resulted in Miriam having her skin "bleached white" and being ejected from the city = God punished racism and people's
disapproval of racial intermingling, according to the Bible.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 08:56 PM by Zealott
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Originally posted by Astyanax
Originally posted by THIseNdsnowoldKings
The children born of more tan one "race" tend to be smarter, more charismatic, and more physically fit.
Cool Freudian-ish slip there.
It's true, us mongrels do tend toward the tan. Personally I love it. Smooth, silky skin whose complexion is a subtle mix of honey, rose and
chocolate... irresistible.
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That is effing hillarious and so racist. I love it. I'm not reffering to the mongrel but rather the oldking. I just wish it was true, that brown
people ran the world and not whites.
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reply posted on 21-3-2008 @ 09:27 PM by riley
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Originally posted by Zealott
That is effing hillarious and so racist. I love it. I'm not reffering to the mongrel but rather the oldking. I just wish it was true, that brown
people ran the world and not whites.
I love how you just pointed out someone being racist and then said you wished the world wasn't run by whites [which it isn't anyway..].
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reply posted on 23-3-2008 @ 12:08 AM by gmac1000
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Originally posted by Zealott
Originally posted by Astyanax
Originally posted by THIseNdsnowoldKings
The children born of more tan one "race" tend to be smarter, more charismatic, and more physically fit.
Cool Freudian-ish slip there.
It's true, us mongrels do tend toward the tan. Personally I love it. Smooth, silky skin whose complexion is a subtle mix of honey, rose and
chocolate... irresistible.
[edit on 21-3-2008 by Astyanax]
That is effing hillarious and so racist. I love it. I'm not reffering to the mongrel but rather the oldking. I just wish it was true, that brown
people ran the world and not whites.
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These people that keep saying that Us whites rule the world...Well its Wrong...We are the ones that sell out the rest of the world to the true
leaders...
To assume that Whitey is in charge is both Wrong yet Somewhat flattering....We Whiteys do not get things on our own merrit but rather watch others
do it then steal it then sell it at retail cost...We are nuthin' but sell outs not even worthy of leading the "cracker Brigade"
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