God Wanted to keep the races apart!

Well, being someone who believes that God has already seen everything from beginning to end, I have to say that your initial post is absurd.

I never said god was racist. I'm not even focusing my argument on race. I'm just trying to understand why God placed the different races in seperate regions of the world. how is that racist? I didn't do that. He did. I didn't create humans and seperate them by race. why is it wrong to want to know why it was planned that way.

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Arent there different gods for people in different parts of the world to? I mean, (being atheist I dont quite understand) is this the same god or different gods for different areas of the world

Same god, different places. that can be explained due to their language and culture not being the same. So if jesus went to india, they wouldn't call him Jesus there..or God could have used different human forms just to keep the different cultures on their toes.

Believe it or not racists and proponents of "racial purity", this is TRUE!

Dominant genes overwrite weaker genes. Better genes overwrite worse genes. I can't explain in more detail as I am not a Geneticist, but nonetheless it has been studied by them and proven that the human being is at its' peak level of physicality and intelligence and health when the genes are mixed far and wide.

Basically, this goes back to the beginnings of mankind, and "backwards 3rd world countries" from the beginnings of mankind still follow these kinda rules. The rules are, arrange a marriage between your son or daughter and one of the opposing sex from a neighboring tribe, not from your own tribe!!!

This was to get a mix of the genes, and there-by create stronger tolerances to certain disease and illness, while also breeding out certain inheritable diseases and conditions.

Alternatively, if you take a population which has consistently bred among itself largely exclusively, you have much more apparent, stronger illnesses and diseases that are inherited. I will give two examples and go. Number one is the Askenazi Jews of Eastern Europe. The second one is Black African Americans, and possibly other Africans, which are all largely at risk for sickle cell anemia, inherited. If a black man and a white woman have a half black, half white child, the chances to get sickle cell are already close to nil. Just from one crossover ..

To expound on the diagram .. one can also achieve racial purity while coming from a mixed background. How does this happen? Dominant genes overwrite weaker genes. Therefore, if your great x10 grandmother was black, but no other black people were in your family, after 10 generations, you will likely be 100% white for all intent and purpose, meaning you would not have even the slightest, smallest, tiniest trace of any features of a mixed individual, and also, your bone and skull structure would also be of the shape of the typical european "white" people skull with the certain brow ridge ..


[edit on 2/19/2008 by runetang]

Originally posted by jedimiller




If you were God, wouldn't you have made the planets?
Or did God just pop along and the whole universe was already here?
In which case........

I'm sorry, I just couldn't read any further without posting.

I'm absolutely amazed that someone could believe this in this day and age.

Amazed?
By what Miller spouts off?
I'm not.
This theory is absolute garbage.
I don't know why it's still in origins and creationism conspiracy, since it is NOT A CONSPIRACY.
It's just Miller spoutting off some ignorant, unthought out "Theory".
It should be moved to skunk works, because it's about as credible or worthwhile as anything else in there.
But then, I'd like to see it simply deleted altogether.

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If the OP was from some under-educated country then I wouldn't be as amazed as I am.

Even the most ardent Creationists can put together a more rational arguement than JM is.
I honestly think that he is unaware of the racist connotations in his postings.

Sensationalism or ignorance, I'm honestly unsure.

I know the guy knows better than to post such knowingly false information.
No one is that stupid (It's stupidity, honest blunt truth.) and no one is that ignorant to their racist implications.
I can't stand Millers posts, the idiocy behind them literally makes my blood boil.
But this truly took the cake as one of the worst posts I've read on this site for a long while.
I've got nothing else to contribute to this thread; I hope it gets deleted, or at least moved to a more adequate place.

[edit on 19-2-2008 by Dewm0nster]

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Greetings......In Gods infinite wisdom ( I would think ) he created three seperate and distinct races through Noahs' geneology,them being his sons Ham a dark skined man,Japeth being a yellow skined man and Shem being a fair skined man....In principle three distinctly different peoples would suggest that perhaps Gods purpose was to keep the races seperate,however,God also imparted a free will to us all and so we did as we saw fit and intermingled.
I see no forboding of intermingling throughout the scripture (eg.Aron and his wife).

I'm all for it. if the mods feel that this should be deleted. go ahead. I tried to prove my point and it's getting nowhere. So it's up to the mods. I don't care one way or another. I was just trying to figure out the reasons...And apparently, I used a stupid example.

I love looking in on this thread once in a while. It reminds me that most people are sane, and rational thinkers. And that some are just ... well.... I don't want to violate the T&C so, lets leave it at that.

It's good to see so many people coming up with different reasons as to why the OP is full of it. These reasons being
Scientific
Logical
Philosophical
and even Biblical

Gotta love it.

reply to post by jedimiller

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God placed people all around the world because that's how big the world is. Different places, of course, have different climates, so people have adapted differently, "evolved" differently, if your faith allows you to believe in the concept.

It was mere happenstance, therefore.

That the people in each place developed a proprietory sense of ownership over their region of the planet was a natural defense mechanism. That this lingers on in modern man as racism in varying degrees is heart-rendingly pitious but understandable.

I know you didn't say God was a racist. Funnily enough, neither did I. Or were you replying to someone else there? I know you were trying to think like God a few posts back, but I can't imagine you'd have imagined a deity with such a foul human weakness.

Haha, God. What a silly concept.

reply to post by Dewm0nster

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Couldn't just lay off the guy for a while, could you?

I don't know who JediWhosis really is, I haven't followed his posting career, but if a child asks me a question (and believe me, at my age, most of you are probably children) I don't think it's good form to insult his credultiy, intelligence or origins.

Encourage and instruct, I suggest. Try to argue in a sensitive manner. People are famously fragile creatures and I'd hate to be responsible for sending anyone to their room in tears because I said they weren't as smart as me.

And give the guy some credit for initially asking a deeply socio-theological question: If God's so smart, why does He make mistakes? Does He do it deliberately? Not at all a particularly "absurd" question, really, is it? (Allowing for the various absurdist views pertaining to God's existence, of course).

We encourage the enquiring mind, don't we?

So, come on, guys. Let's chill with the ill feeling ok?



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If he/she/it was making mistakes deliberately, wouldn't they cease to be mistakes and become intentional actions?

Absolutely right. And who can guess at the ineffibility of God's great design.

(Actually, I'm coming over like a bit of a Christian fundamentalist, which I'm not. Internally, I always qualify such statements as that above with "you know, if He exists, like, cos, like, that's what He's really all about, like, right?" - internally, I'm kinda inarticulate, too.)

The Supreme Being is all powerful, all merciful, all knowing and entirely in charge. The world is not broken, it is functioning perfectly. The spirits here are exhausting their imperfections through their own expressions (desires).

I'm sorry, but why not say that god created different races and allowed them to develop different cultures so that we could learn to see beneath cultural and racial differences? You seem to be taking a position on the issue that lazily justifies your own racist urges (and I believe we all have them, so I am not being holier than thou). Instead you should confront it and deal with it, do not rationalize it with dinky theories about what god wanted and did or didn't do. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but I'm trying to do you a favor.




[edit on 21-2-2008 by Silenceisall]

Ahhhh......GOD intented to keep the races apart because he created different "races". Each race has specific DNA and appearance. It would seem logical he intended for them to be "apart" from other humans..