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Topic started on 17-2-2008 @ 04:09 AM by jedimiller
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You see, God is really a smart dude. He knew that there would be racism, World Wars, invasions, slavery, conquistas among other things...if the
different human races he created got to meet. So he decided to place all the races in different parts of the world. Hoping that they wouldn't get too
close. He didn't know that we would migrate, build machines and invade other countries. He knew that the different races that he put on earth would
meet, but he didn't really expect Americans to go over to Africa and take everyone as slaves. He didn't expect Americans to invade a country like
Iraq and star killing everyone. You see, God had enough room on Earth to put all of the races in different locations. And think about it, why would he
do that? the only reason I think, he separated everyone evenly around the globe was to keep us apart. It's like keeping your kids in their own rooms
so they don't get into a fight. This is all my theory of course. Not saying it's true. And let me point out i'm not racist. Or focusing on one
single race. But just ask yourself, could God have placed everyone in those locations for a purpose? and using oceans and mountains to make that other
race harder to reach the other? and if you had the chance to start a world, would you create that world with just one race? or different races? and
where would you place them? all in one place or all apart? questions to ask. Just doing some observations of why racism could be natural and a choice
that God actually made. Discuss.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:20 AM by mister Jones
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i'll answer with another question:
if god is such a smart dude, he could he not have anticpated that all those people would start migrating? Cultures have been migrating since the old
times, and it's exploding now (i live 13000km from the place i was born and i have a daughter who is half asian, half caucasian  .
Just wondering...
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:35 AM by jedimiller
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Originally posted by mister Jones
i'll answer with another question:
if god is such a smart dude, he could he not have anticpated that all those people would start migrating? Cultures have been migrating since the old
times, and it's exploding now (i live 13000km from the place i was born and i have a daughter who is half asian, half caucasian  .
Just wondering...

He did anticipate it. but like I said, not in the billions. He came here, created earth and all living things..he then left and left it up to us. he
knew about evolution and other factors..but I think he figured we had the brain to understand why we shouldn't mix with the others. Because he knew
and we know that differences always cause problems. And for millions of years the separation of races around the world have benefited by staying
peaceful. Only when we all saw our differences we began to fight and hate eachother. God gave us that chance, but his original plan was to layout the
races spread out around the world. And for obvious reasons. hope that explains it.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:44 AM by WraothAscendant
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I am sorry if this is not true but it sounds like your trying to justify racism.
And please don't take this wrong as well.
And not very well either.
Especially because your late JC tried to teach what seems to me above all else tolerance and brotherhood of all mankind.
[edit on 17-2-2008 by WraothAscendant]
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 05:00 AM by mister Jones
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Originally posted by jedimiller
...but I think he figured we had the brain to understand why we shouldn't mix with the others. Because he knew and we know that differences always
cause problems.... 
Why exactly should i not mix with other races? god thinks this inevitably wil lead to problems? hmm, where did you read this, or is this your own
twisted interpretation... your god seems a wee bit racist, imo
peace,
mr.jones
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 05:01 AM by ANOK
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God didn't create different 'races' he created one, the Human Race.
What we consider 'races' is very slight variations in certain features evolved through environment. We all are the same buddy, created equal in
every way.
I'm sure you know that it's commonly thought that all Humans came from Africa, from the same place? We all have a common ancestor, meaning the only
difference between you and a Chinaman is that billions of years ago your ancestors didn't settle in China.
You might not realise it but thinking of 'races' in the way you are could be construed as racist. Nothing a little education wouldn't fix
though...
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 06:11 AM by jedimiller
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Not racist at all guys. Just coming trying to understand why God created everyone so differently and placed them in different locations around the
world. Logically, that's the only explanation I could come up with. I'm coming from a creator point of view. Not that I'm a creator, but just
trying to figure out why God would do this. And if we know that Iraqis don't get along with Americans..we are not all the same. As a human race yes,
but don't fool yourselfs if you think we are all the same.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 06:23 AM by Beachcoma
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I thought that God created the different races so that we may learn from one another. I'm sure there's a verse about that somewhere... just don't
recall what exactly it is.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 06:38 AM by mister Jones
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Originally posted by jedimiller
we are not all the same. As a human race yes, but don't fool yourselfs if you think we are all the same. 
i think you're confusing race with culture. If an iraqi, an african or asian person or whatever is born and raised in a western country (let's say
the US), with the culture, moral values, religion etc of that country, are they still incompatible with caucasians?
If you think they are, then you are by definition a racist, no mather how hard you deny it...
And what about ANOK's point, that we all originate from one (set of) ancestors? In biblical terms, what race were adam and eve? or did every
continent have their own adam and eve... just think about it for a while.
peace,
mr.Jones
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 06:44 AM by ANOK
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Originally posted by jedimiller
Not racist at all guys....And if we know that Iraqis don't get along with Americans..we are not all the same. As a human race yes, but don't fool
yourselfs if you think we are all the same... 
Well I wasn't calling you a racist, but you are thinking of race in a racial way if that makes sense. But after that post I'm changing my
mind...
Even from the creator point of view we all come from a common ancestor Adam and Eve, so you're back to the same problem. God didn't create
different races, he created one race, the regions we come from dictates the differences we label as 'races'.
We are the same as Iraqis, and if you think we're not you are the one who is fooling yourself, and you wonder why your post appears racist.
'Race' is about differences in physical features, not differences in culture or religion. It's politics and ignorance that keeps Americans from
getting along with Iraqis, nothing to do with God or the division of races.
Edit; Well said Mister Jones you beat me to it...
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 06:49 AM by jedimiller
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Originally posted by mister Jones
i think you're confusing race with culture. If an iraqi, an african or asian person or whatever is born and raised in a western country (let's say
the US), with the culture, moral values, religion etc of that country, are they still incompatible with caucasians?
If you think they are, then you are by definition a racist, no mather how hard you deny it...

well, God created Adam and eve and all of that in genesis. but it doesn't talk about his creation of other races around the world. hence, we could be
missing a book in the bible that would explain that. I took numerous Anthropology courses in college. having learned, and going to the zoo and studied
the human evolution I came to the conclusion that it was all crap.
Homoerectus and homosapiens were species that evolved from apes. in the other hand, there was no relation between them and us. I don't believe that
we evolved from them, God had to come in and populate the world and he did it by separating the races. All middle easters in one place of the world.
All africans in another, Caucasians on another, etc.
And no, we are not all the same. if you look at the skull, the sekeletal frame, the skin, the height and shape of the different races. We are not all
the same. does it make me racist because I took those classes and noticed the difference in humankind charactericts? no. Africans have a larger head,
and a more genetic capacity to gain muscle mass. Asians for example don't have that. We are not the same, in shape or form. Sure, we speak the same
language and understand eachother, but biologically..we are different; the same way, the silverback gorilla is different to the Chimpanze for example.
and if you look at the homosapiens, the had apelike characteristics that we just don't have and probably never had. I just think that God knew what
he was doing. if he didn't why didn't he just place all the different races in America? in one side of the continent? can anyone answer that? I can.
Because he knew we would compete with the other and try to destroy them. and it's happening today.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 06:54 AM by Beachcoma
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Originally posted by jedimiller
well, God created Adam and eve and all of that in genesis. but it doesn't talk about his creation of other races around the world. hence, we could be
missing a book in the bible that would explain that. 
Woah, woah... hold the line. This is dangerous thinking here. It seems like you are implying that the other races are less than human, since they
weren't descended from the same stock as that of the Judeo-Christian line.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 06:54 AM by Mikey84
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If god was so worried about the different races that he put them in different parts in the hope that they would never meet, why didn’t he just
create one race to begin with?
The fact that White people descended from colder climates, like Europe, Tanned people from warmer climates like the Med and Middle East, Black people
from Hotter Climates like Africa/Australia etc, leads me to think race is more of an evolutionary thing rather than god wanting people separate.
MIkey
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 07:00 AM by reject
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I bet she's both gorgeous &
smart. Kudos on diversifying the human gene pool
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 07:01 AM by Dock6
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Well, I've lived in Australia for a very long time, and I'm still white as milk.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 07:03 AM by ANOK
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Dude please stop. You need to go do some reading. You are pointing out physical feature that evolved in Humans because of where they lived. We were
NOT created differently. Whether you believe in creation or evolution they both say the same thing in different ways. It's just the creationists
want to believe everything appeared all at once 6000 years ago, a silly notion that goes against all we know. Even if it was all created by God it
wasn't done all at once 6000 years ago. People take the Bible too literally.
 *Human beings have very low genetic variability. Probably the entire species is descended from a single family that lived about 200,000 years
ago.
* The genetic differences that divide races appear to be new, geologically speaking, and tend to result from harmless mutations (differences in blood
type) and adaptations to recent environments (skin color).
* Traits that people consider important, like certain forms of intelligence and self-control, are most likely going to be important in mate
selection, so alleles that enhance these traits will spread to spread throughout the human gene pool in all habitats and increase in frequency to a
greater degree than alleles that don't. Consequently, alleles that favor useful traits will be overwhelmingly common in all populations.
* Mutations within populations have produced genetic differences among individuals that are greater than those among populations.
* The idea of a recent African origin is still under investigation, as is the idea of a recent common ancestry for all living people.
Human Race
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 07:10 AM by Mikey84
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Originally posted by Dock6
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Well, I've lived in Australia for a very long time, and I'm still white as milk.

Evolution is a long process, I assume you’ll be white until the day you day, people don’t usually change race in their own lifetime.... unless of
course you’re Michael Jackson. Although, after living in Australia for a while, I now have a tan. lol
Just look at the race of people and where they are original ancestors are from, White from Europe, Black from Africa etc etc, race is clearly an
evolution thing based on what part of the planed your/ancestors are from.
Mikey
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 07:14 AM by Valhall
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Uhhhh, I haven't ever read anything any where in the Bible that leads me to believe God even cares what color we are. I'm of the opposite opinion,
in fact. I think God would be happy if we all averaged out to a nice creamy mocha....then we'd have one less thing to misbehave about and one less
thing to make Him feel ashamed of our actions and hearts.
Moses' wife was black. God didn't have any issue with that.
The woman in Song of Songs was black and some believe to be the Queen of Sheba and that the entire book is about the love affair between Solomon and
the Queen. I don't read anywhere that God got miffed at Solomon about that dealio.
This is just some one's attempt to put their own desires on God - which happens a lot. People don't want to take the credit/blame for their own
decisions any more.
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 07:20 AM by _Phoenix_
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Originally posted by jedimiller
He did anticipate it. but like I said, not in the billions. He came here, created earth and all living things..he then left and left it up to us. he
knew about evolution and other factors..but I think he figured we had the brain to understand why we shouldn't mix with the others. Because he knew
and we know that differences always cause problems. And for millions of years the separation of races around the world have benefited by staying
peaceful. Only when we all saw our differences we began to fight and hate eachother. God gave us that chance, but his original plan was to layout the
races spread out around the world. And for obvious reasons. hope that explains it. 
So your saying places with a HUGE mixture of different people and cultures is wrong?
Personally I love London, there are food from all over the world, there are people from all over the world, and we can all learn from each other.
(plus you get to experience and check out all the different girls haha)
Are you saying I shouldn't have existed because I'm mixed?
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 07:22 AM by Rasobasi420
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Okay, okay, .... this is just ridiculous enough to be funny.
Let me add to ANOK's post with a simple picture.
Neanderthal on the left.
image source: http://images.livescience.com/images/050310_neanderthal2_02.jpg
It doesn't take much of a leap to see that we were closely related.
So yes, we are all one race coming from a once small population. Most likely somewhere in Africa. That's not to say aliens or something didn't
come around and tweak our gene-pool or civilization a bit.
That aside, God is meant to be omniscient. He knew our future before we did (supposedly).
Imagine where Europeans would be scientifically if not for the influence of the Middle and Far East during the renaissance. And if not for that mix
of people, most of us wouldn't be here. I'd be hard pressed to find someone who is 100% anything.
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