Holocaust Reparations Bill could cost Americans 200 Billion Dollars, page 2
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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 02:10 PM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by hinky



It's also the name of the Jehova's Witness website, and is used by... Yeesh, I can't count how many other blogs, websites, etc. It's a catchy phrase.

Looking at the "wakeupfromyourslumber.com" site, yes, I do see that on this site, "Jew," "Zionist," and "Israel" are all synonymous. I would characterize them as being at the best, carelessly bigoted.

The act in question, however, is a reality. Unfortunately my legalese is a little rusty.

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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 02:29 PM by biggie smalls
reply to post by marg6043



Thanks marg (and walking fox) for finding it on another source.

This definitely gives credibility to the issue at hand.

I'm confused though.

Why would a Cuban native careabout holocaust survivors?

What's his motive? Did AIPAC pay him off?

[edit on 2/17/2008 by biggie smalls]



reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 02:36 PM by marg6043
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I have not clue from where she got this bill but she does have 40 cosponsors, in this site you can read the names of all of them.

www.fantasycongress.com...


reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 02:52 PM by Griff
reply to post by DimensionalDetective




My first question:

Why is it the US's job? We didn't do the holocaust. Let Germany pay for it.

Second:

What about the holocaust that the US actually DID do? The American Indians. Where's their money?

I'm not anti-semitic but jeez. Why us?


reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:26 PM by zerotime
Here is a link to the actual Bill.
Holocaust Insurance Accountability Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)

The Bill was created: To require disclosure of Holocaust -era policies by insurers and establish a federal cause of action for claims arising out of a covered policy.

I cannot find any information in this bill that state that US tax payers are going to pay any of this money. From reading the Bill it seems the bill will allow Holocaust victims and their families to file claims against insurance companies that never paid up and it will then allow the US government to go after these insurance companies in Federal Court to get compensation.


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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:33 PM by biggie smalls
reply to post by zerotime



Actually it does.

The link you posted doesn't work. You have to type in "Holocaust" anyway to find it.

Here's an exert that mentions the federal government will pay:

(26) Holocaust victims and their families should be able to recover claims arising from Holocaust era insurance policies and the Federal Government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of insurers in Federal court when they consider it necessary to seek redress through the judicial system.
(27) Under the circumstances faced by Holocaust victims and their families, the courts of the United States should be open to Holocaust victims and their families for a reasonable number of years after enactment of this Act, without regard to any other statutes of limitation.


"The federal government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of ensurers."

In laymans, we're going to reimburse you with taxpayer money no matter what the people think.

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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:45 PM by biggie smalls
reply to post by biggie smalls



One of the MOST ridiculous parts about this bill, is the fact that most holocaust survivors are dead.

Let's pretend the last person from the holocaust was born in a concentration camp (didn't happen, but its a theoretical situation so just go with it).

This person would be 67 or 68 years old as they would have been freed in 1947 AT THE LATEST.

The average person in the concentration camp would have been over 12 years old.

These people are all in their seventies or above.

Not only are they getting social security if they're Americans, but chances are they're also receiving pensions.

On top of that, there are countless Jewish organizations that give money every year to holocaust survivors.

Why should we, the tax paying American public who had no hand in the holocaust, have to pay for grandparents?

I don't see the logic behind this.

They are mostly dead.

So who in reality are we paying?

Is this bill going into the pocket of Israel-US dual citizens who are much younger than the survivors?

Are we lining the pockets of AIPAC policy holders and politicians?

I smell a dirty filthy rat.

I'm calling bull#!

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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:46 PM by biggie smalls
reply to post by zerotime



The link you posted is different than the Thomas.House.gov version.

The bill has changed it since your link was updated.

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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 04:58 PM by zerotime
Originally posted by Griff
Who pays the insurance companies? Some way, some how, it still trickles down to us footing the bill.

Also, who pays the government for court costs?

Us.


I fail to understand why any of this matters. Are you saying that despite the fact that these were real policies that people paid for and that the families never received the benefit that these families should still not get the compensation that they were rightfully due?

As with any lawsuit the loser will pay for the court costs as well.


Originally posted by biggie smalls
The link you posted is different than the Thomas.House.gov version.
The bill has changed it since your link was updated.


Does not appear to be any different. The section is the same as you posted a couple links above. Here is a cut and past from the
thomas.loc.gov... website. Cannot post a direct link to the Bill on this website because of how their search engine works but anyone can visit the main site and do a search for Bill: The Holocaust Insurance Accountability Act of 2007

(26) Holocaust victims and their families should be able to recover claims arising from Holocaust era insurance policies and the Federal Government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of insurers in Federal court when they consider it necessary to seek redress through the judicial system.


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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 05:38 PM by marg6043
reply to post by NGC2736



Exactly, I wonder if the Katrina people victimized by the insurance companies had been compensated and also has been any bills to support their claims under law.

Like the one for the Holocaust survivors.

BTW the reason that the Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Ranking Republican on the Foreign Affairs Committee.

Also many of the companies involved was about 60 years ago has either gone our of business or they are in foreign nations, is going to cost a lot of money to get this information.

So still somebody is footing the bill.



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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 05:42 PM by NGC2736
reply to post by marg6043



They need to organize, and we need to support them. Those who got screwed in Katrina deserve to be treated fairly. But we have to get the political hacks out of D.C.

Sure, the Jews have gotten the ball rolling. Don't blame them for working harder at it, and twisting more arms. We ought to be doing the exact same thing over EVERY case where fraud and corruption allow these big boys to win at the expense of the rest of us.


reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 05:46 PM by marg6043
reply to post by NGC2736



A while back I did a thread call who is lobbying for the American people guess what my friend nobody is because the people that is supposed to be working for us is been payed better by other private interest.

Unfortunately the Jewish lobbyist groups are very wealthy and have more results that we the regular people in this nation.


reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 05:49 PM by NGC2736
reply to post by marg6043



True enough. But if we lazy Americans would really organize, and read, and attend rallies, and VOTE like we had something besides mush for brains, then we too could change things. As it is, we mostly complain about what someone else is succeeding at doing that we don't have the gumption to do ourselves.
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