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The Large Hadron Collider - does it pose a threat?


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reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 08:31 AM by Neo Christian Mystic


I don't believe it is possible to destroy or even touch a dimention. They are artificial references to space and time. However I do believe that all four known dimentions can be manipulated with energy and gravity etc. In other words, maybe the "Collider" will make time travel possible...



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reply posted on 3-4-2008 @ 08:54 AM by TheColdDragon


It is important to note, people, that collisions like this occur every single day throughout the universe. There are even more energetic collisions occurring throughout the galaxy and Universe.

There is 0.0000% to worry about. I imagine it is fun to speculate, but honestly... the solar system hasn't ended and particles are colliding with a lot more gusto right above your heads.



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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 02:15 PM by Hagbard Celine



Originally posted by TheColdDragon
It is important to note, people, that collisions like this occur every single day throughout the universe. There are even more energetic collisions occurring throughout the galaxy and Universe.

There is 0.0000% to worry about. I imagine it is fun to speculate, but honestly... the solar system hasn't ended and particles are colliding with a lot more gusto right above your heads.




The problem with that, I hear, is that the high energy particle collisions in the Earth's atmosphere produce MBH's and strangelets, but that they're travelling at a speed so far above escape velocity that they just fly away into spce. The LHC's progeny are not travelling so fast; they will be captured by the Earth's gravitational field, like solid objects.

Though please! If you can debunk this do so! I want to be proved wrong here! I hate the thought of the Earth being destroyed.



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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 02:16 PM by Hagbard Celine



Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
I don't believe it is possible to destroy or even touch a dimention. They are artificial references to space and time. However I do believe that all four known dimentions can be manipulated with energy and gravity etc. In other words, maybe the "Collider" will make time travel possible...


Then we'll have all these problems with causality paradoxes that have so far only been the bane of "Back to The Future" and "Doctor Who"!



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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 02:32 PM by silencee


out of the


six LHC experiments: ALICE, ATLAS, CMS, LHCb, LHCf and TOTEM

Alice (a large ion collider experiment) website says that the 1st collision taken place on the 30th March 2008... (according to the countdown that was below the article that is stating that collision will be in summer 2008)

here is the website
and the article is above the one that is on the bottom... anyone has info on it ?

websites of other experiments don't mention anything about this..



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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 02:38 PM by Hagbard Celine



Originally posted by silencee
out of the


six LHC experiments: ALICE, ATLAS, CMS, LHCb, LHCf and TOTEM

Alice (a large ion collider experiment) website says that the 1st collision taken place on the 30th March 2008... (according to the countdown that was below the article that is stating that collision will be in summer 2008)

here is the website
and the article is above the one that is on the bottom... anyone has info on it ?

websites of other experiments don't mention anything about this..


What? Has it started already? Before their official launch that Nomad is going to attend?

What's the rush?



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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 03:01 PM by Mr Jackdaw


Perhaps most of the worry comes from sensationalizing the qualities of the LHC. I understand we might be capable of creating tiny black holes. However, if we managed to create a black hole that was really something to worry about, there would be no time -- and no one left -- to complain.

So the way I look at it is this:

1. Build the LHC, and no disaster happens: We learn new things about the universe we live in. Or

2. Build the LHC, and worst-case-scenario disaster happens: Entire universe gets sucked into mankind's last mistake. The end.

I like to keep things simple. And as a personal opinion, no; I don't think the LHC poses a threat. Not specifically, at any rate.

[edit on 4/5/2008 by Mr Jackdaw]



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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 04:49 PM by nomadrush


We have the guy behind the law suit - WALTER L WAGNER who is trying to stop the Large Hadron Collider being launched, on the show next Friday April 11th at 11 p.m. UK time. Make sure you tune in and find out why he is so worried.

www.glastonburyradio.net...

Ross


[edit on 5-4-2008 by nomadrush]



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reply posted on 29-4-2008 @ 12:49 AM by Hagbard Celine



Originally posted by Mr Jackdaw
Perhaps most of the worry comes from sensationalizing the qualities of the LHC. I understand we might be capable of creating tiny black holes. However, if we managed to create a black hole that was really something to worry about, there would be no time -- and no one left -- to complain.

So the way I look at it is this:

1. Build the LHC, and no disaster happens: We learn new things about the universe we live in. Or

2. Build the LHC, and worst-case-scenario disaster happens: Entire universe gets sucked into mankind's last mistake. The end.

I like to keep things simple. And as a personal opinion, no; I don't think the LHC poses a threat. Not specifically, at any rate.

[edit on 4/5/2008 by Mr Jackdaw]


Well it's hard to believe that the LHC poses a threat the the ENTIRE universe. If it did then why are we still here (apart from some weird variation of the anthropic principle that says "We're in the only universe never to have had an LHC"!:lol? The universe itself must be in a state of very stable equilibrium to have evolved into what it is today. What's more we can't be the only folks in it to have developed an LHC; other civilizations on other planets probably have too if the universe is really infinite, or even very very big.

As for a threat to this planet alone, or the solar system... well that's another matter.



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reply posted on 29-4-2008 @ 07:38 AM by nomadrush


What worries me about the LHC is the fact that their own health and safety enquiry pointed out some very significant risks which they decided were "worth taking"! Who gave them the right to take these chances without asking the people who could be affected by it?

Ross



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reply posted on 30-4-2008 @ 05:20 PM by Hagbard Celine



Originally posted by nomadrush
What worries me about the LHC is the fact that their own health and safety enquiry pointed out some very significant risks which they decided were "worth taking"! Who gave them the right to take these chances without asking the people who could be affected by it?

Ross



"Worth taking"!? What is worth gambling the safety of the entire planet on!?



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reply posted on 30-4-2008 @ 05:38 PM by Trance Optic


just imagine we fire this puppy up, everything seems tyo go right, then 2012 happens an we are invaded by a ET race who claims we destroied their planet with an escaped electron lol......

really thoe, these kinda things should be done in space, by robots lol. Not humans with million variations of emotional ability an certainly not on earth.... Its the only one we have!

So ok, here they are building this huge bonbardment machine to create tiny black holes.... Why on anyone's last pubic hair, would we want to create a Black hole of any size? Not to mention on earth.... We dont even know all there is to know about them...

Kinda like hey we dont know about death too much, Lets Kill Just a lil amount of people to see wha tit is....



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reply posted on 30-4-2008 @ 05:47 PM by mikellmikell


E=MC2


Any other other questions

mikell



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