reply to post by GradyPhilpott
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from
the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and
pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all
that's good." George Washington First President of the United States
Sweet Jesus! What a quote! And oh so convenient and it from a distinctly partisan advocacy website to boot! It makes you shiver just to imagine when
GW would have had occasion to deliver that “quote” and to whom it was addressed. Preaching to the choir? If you did not know better you might
think GW said this at the very first NRA Convention? I am of the opinion there are many websites that can furnish you a quote to fit your needs,
attributed to almost anyone you want or need. The internet is great, but it is estimated 80% of the “facts” on the ‘net are false. Caveat
For easy reference, here follows the FIRST 2nd Amendment.
“ . . but every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered, and shall provide and
constantly have ready for use, in public stores
, a due number of field pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp
.” Articles of Confederation, Article VI, Paragraph 4. 1775. I offer this easier to understand version than the discombobulated one used
in the 1787 Constitution. My bold type.
Onward. Americans are a funny people for sure. Otherwise rational people are capable of totally ignoring the annual number of deaths due to firearms.
Completely. It is as if A) they did not know, or B) they do know but do not care! As long as they are not the ones who die by firearms, they just
shrug it off. “Hey, it’s part of the price for living!”
We the people have an almost unlimited ability to self-blind when one of our sacred cows is involved. I hold George Washington in great respect maybe
even in awe. Like it or not, he more than anyone created the government we have today. I’m sure he had faults and he surely was no Napoleon but
then, that turned out to be his greatest gift to America.
It seems to me to be unprofitable to offer the “sayings” of George Washington - old quotes are almost always taken out of context - for our
application to problems in the 21st century which he could never have anticipated. That is as valueless as quoting St. Paul on slavery. It is hard to
talk about addressing a serious problem - 5,000 to 30,000 preventable deaths annually - when the other side offer the sayings of the slave owning,
whiskey making founder of the country. And continue to ignore the up to 30,000 dead as the “cost of living” in a free country. Hmm? We really can
A lot of Americans get irrational when they learn that China is putting lead in their children’s toys. They know that a whole range on not good
things happen to young children who have lead in their bodies. Well, even on that, Americans care more for some children than they do for other
children. It is reliably estimated that 25% of children in poverty circumstances are exposed to lead containing paint that was “grand-fathered” in
so that the R&F landlords would not be burdened with the expense of lead paint removal. Hey, we take care of our own!
For sure, all the new houses in gated communities do not have lead based paint, but then, if you want to live in a slum and raise your children in a
dangerous environment, that ought to be an American’s right! Heaven forbid the Government would tell anyone where to live! Or protect poor children
at the expense of the R&Fs.
Aside: Although the number of cars on America’s roads has tripled since the 1960s, the number of deaths in auto accidents is actually lower today
than it was then. Auto deaths where alcohol was involved have been reduced over 50%. We are perfectly capable of dealing with important social issues
when we want to.
OTOH, in these discussions we do learn where people stand. And the reasons offered for their position. And that has its own value. It means people
like me must work harder to find better arguments that will persuade more people to my point of view. Jeez, what a job!
[edit on 4/13/2008 by donwhite]