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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 09:36 AM by TheNetherlands


You just cant take note of the list because leaving dis-info people out is some kinda strategy. Like "Hey, my guy isnt in this list so he is speaking the truth.
That could be dis-info ats its prime.

Putting people in that are not dis-info agents is also misleading so you really really just have to forget this list and leave it be.



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 11:00 AM by IsaacKoi



Originally posted by Skyfloating
Information War is what our whole world is currently involved in.



Hi Skyfloating,

I'm currently working on two submission for the ATS newsletter, one of which relates to what I think you mean by the "Information War". That article is probably the most socially significant piece that I've ever worked on and I'm finding the results of the research for it to be extremely interesting (and a bit worrying...).

Given the amount of research necessary, that article may take some time to complete and I'll probably finish off a piece revealing some hoaxes first.

Kind Regards,

Isaac



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 11:01 AM by skyblueff0


I could honestly say Issac, that I thought you were serious about this list, until Savior said it was a satire.

When I read that post, I thought: "So basically I can't trust anyone that is involved in UFOLOGY. Then I jokingly thought maybe you're (Issac) a disinformation agent yourself, just trying to discredit ATS and other people."

But I think I got your message now, and thanks!!

[edit on 16-2-2008 by skyblueff0]



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 01:04 PM by gtirlad2


I don't get it? is this some kind of joke or what.



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 02:01 PM by Lightworth


I think disinformation is often confused with misinformation. Many or most times it's a case of one making an honest effort based on his or her perception and reasoning rather than deliberately trying to bamboozle others. Another ATS member by the name of Incarnated pointed out recently that "ufology" is really a misnomer anyway, since all of us know jack diddley about UFOs/contact and everything else (that's at least currently) unexplained in the first place.



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 02:12 PM by Springer


To those who wonder if this is a "joke"...

YES!

It's called SATIRE. If you read the OP it's clearly stated this is here to add a bit of levity to the forum.

I am amazed at the number of people who think this anything BUT a funny exercse in satire that highlights the IDIOCY of all the back biting in UFOlogy.

Springer...
Springer...



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 02:29 PM by kosmicjack



Originally posted by kosmicjack
It will be hilarious to see, by page 27 of this thread, just how many ATS members read it and get it. My guess, not many.


...and it's only a few pages long. Just wait until it's longer. The flame wars. The indignation. The absurdity. All because it seems as if some on ATS are incapable of actually reading the full OP, thread or the links.



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 02:57 PM by aleon1018


As humorous as this site may be with this post, it highlights the fact that the internet and it's sources are about as truthful as satire and ATS is now the class clown. So, when does this go into skunkworks?

Maybe since we have so much time on our hands, we should get together and write a show about ATS for Southpark. Then we can have the creators of Southpark as the new conspiracy masters.



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 10:36 PM by TeslaandLyne


If anyone has real information let me know.

In any case I'm keeping my secrets to myself.

Paid for dis info... work honestly for wicked money.

I give you dis information for nothing.



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reply posted on 16-2-2008 @ 11:05 PM by DogHead


People have been killed by the real MIBs. The real conspiracies such as Inslaw, Alien Contact, secret aircraft, secret treaties, Mad Cow, and the rest, are not funny.

This thread was really hilarious.

And by really I mean predictably and by hilarious I mean tiresome.

It truly is disinformation since there are documents beyond any suspicion of fraud that document the conspiracies, the paid disinformation from genesis to now and so on. To reduce that to the level of this tiresome piece is pathetic.



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reply posted on 17-2-2008 @ 12:09 PM by Drakiir


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Totally agree with you. The countless people who have encountered MIB for real would be doing anything but considering this "satire" if they read the post.

And by the poster even putting this on the thread makes it look as if he/she is "watering down" the possibility of it happening, debunker possibly......hmmmm.

Talk about adding fuel to the debunker fire

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reply posted on 21-2-2008 @ 02:36 PM by gabriel5578


your a fuuny guy... I was wondering why Bill Cooper was on here when he was the one who was the source for at least 15 of the guys on the list as being disinfo agents...



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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 04:08 AM by ConspiracyNut23



Originally posted by IsaacKoi
The first edition of Jacques Vallee’s journals include a reference to a rumour that the McDonnel-Douglas company “have a secret team, employing a physicist named Stanton Friedman to collect physical data in a hush-hush manner” (see Footnote A). Stanton Friedman’s name is mysteriously omitted from the relevant sentence of the later softcover edition of the book, with no indication of any redaction (see Footnote B).

....

[Footnote A] Discussed by Jacques Vallee in his “Forbidden Science: Journals 1957-1969.” (1992) at page 304 (in Chapter 15, journal entry for 1967.0802) of the North Atlantic Books hardback edition.

[Footnote B] Omitted from the relevant entry in the 1996 Marlowe paperback edition of “Forbidden Science: Journals 1957-1969” (on page 307).



Is this a joke as well? (I don't have access to the journals)

I agree that the yellow makes it hard to read. Issac, are you reading ATS in light mode or dark mode?

Cooper seem to have been doing a lot of the mudslinging.

[edit on 5/5/08 by ConspiracyNut23]



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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 04:49 AM by IsaacKoi



Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23

[Regarding a quote of Vallee's comments regarding Stan Friedman] Is this a joke as well? (I don't have access to the journals)



This quote (and the others in the List) is intended to be an accurate quotation.

(BTW I have some documents somewhere relating to this work by Stan. I'll try to dig them out and/or find a link to them).



I agree that the yellow makes it hard to read. Issac, are you reading ATS in light mode or dark mode?



I've be on dark mode since it was launched and presumed virtually everyone else is on it as well.

I've just tried viewing this thread in light mode and can certainly see what you mean about the yellow. Sorry...



Cooper seem to have been doing a lot of the mudslinging.



Indeed.

All the best,

Isaac



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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 11:13 AM by SaviorComplex



Originally posted by Skyfloating
Judging from your posts in the last few months though, I am not sure if you understand that the UFO-Phenomenon is a real phenomenon



You are mistaking a skepticism over the belief that UFOs represent extraterrestrial vistation with a belief that the phenomenon is not real. The two are not mutually-inclusive.


Originally posted by Skyfloating
The ridicule and snickering at ufologists has lost its entertainment value for me a long time ago.



On the contrary. There needs to be more ridicule and snickering at so-called UFOlogists, particularly within the UFO-research community. Hucksters within the community should be savaged and not allowed a place at the table.



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