ATS situation X passphrase

I know we talk a lot on here about survival and the like
just curious if we should have a secret code lol I really don't know any other way to say it..

So if there ever were to be a situation X and you were hoping to hook up with others that you new even if only online how would you know it was who they said being that most people here on ATS have never seen one another and or have never even seen a face pic..

could we rely on a pass phrase something silly but fun and only ATSr's would know and maybe a few lurkers that are just reading and not joining up


something like
Q) who's your favorite person A) The Big Lebowski

etc etc you get my point just curious what people think of an idea like this not saying that we should implement or anything just looking for suggestions


Respectfully
GEO

I believe this question or suggestion has come up before. It's a good one as you would need to be able to trust somebody, if only a little, during SitX.

The only problem I see would be the possibility of paid informants on ATS who would also know the password if it was given in a thread. Also the few "just plain nuts" members on ATS might be a problem.

Maybe it would best be a thing passed out friend to friend via u2u.

I believe I'd just throw my logon name out there and see if it was recognized. Also just because they were on ATS doesn't necessarily make them on my side.

reply to post by SemperParatus

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Good response on the logon name I guess that would work however
I can barely keep track of myself so keeping track of the users on ATS would be a huge undertaking.. Also agree that just being from ATS does not mean they are on your side just may give a little more room to feel them out about the site and see if they are shooting straight just another layer of getting to know your friends and enemies.


Respectfully
GEO

I agree Semper. When your survival depends on it you can never be to careful. I also believe that we can not make it forever alone. so you have to trust somebody. So Why not have Deny Ignorane as the trust code. notice I said trust code not pass code. it seems to fit better in my opinion.

There is information that can be provided that isn't of a secretive nature that can be shared freely - so long as we remain non-descript, and tbh if you're planning something you can either use the u2us or type "I'm going to blow up the statue of liberty" in capital letters, and then hope that enough people see it to get the idea.

The only reason that i can see for why one would do such a thing is for organisational purposes - and i guarentee that if a SitX (i like the way he termed it) occured, then whoever was behind it will have thought of that.


[edit on 15-2-2008 by Throbber]

Another thought....How may people, not using this site can tell you what ATS stands for or who the Admin is?

reply to post by SemperParatus

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Yet another good point I am not sure that I could tell you who okay just kidding I know who that admin is..

yeah you guys have made good point through out an obvious post would make sense


And I agree on the trust code thing as well you don't just want to jump down the rabbit hole with anyone so trust code and then you take the time to get to know them and their story to trust or not is up to you in the long haul and I am fairly confident that some of us will be able to figure out who to trust and who not too,, though I am concerned for some others


Respectfully
GEO

The local group that I am a part of does have a passphrase, and we have put that into our contenginecy. Luckly, thus far the group is composed of a small group of skilled individuals in various areas, and we all know each other very well. As the group tends to grow within the community (which it seems to be doing already) the passphrase will be key if SitX happens and we are meeting at the rally points.

I like the idea of having a special key phrase to find other ATS survival people while on the move. A good majority of the people here I could definatly work next to in that sort of situation.

If we decide to stick with a secret u2u passphrase, put me on the list.

Who knows? Maybe we could get a small list togeather of people, thier handle, and location so if SHTF we can be on the look out for local ATSers while bugging out?

I think you may recognize me
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Recognition phrase is a great idea though. If the u2u comes around someone pass it to me as well. Hell, "ATS" is pretty good anyway. If the SHTF everybody is going to be worried about other things than trying to remember wtf ATS must mean to the guys with guns and bug-out bags yelling it at each other from oppposite sides of the road.

[edit on 15-2-2008 by Tinhatman]

In a case of sheer chaos, I think finding another ATS member would prove to be impossible. For one thing if you are allowing random strangers who may be armed to get close enough to hold a conversation, you are probably putting yourself in too much danger already.

Your best bet is probably just to asess people as you come into contact with them. Perhaps go back to medieval style "FRIEND OR FOE"

If people insisted on having a passphrase, I would try to incorporate it into a common saying such as "how's it going" so that you could use and answer without suspicion, both as the person asking and also the person responding.

Howabout "don't shoot!"

Any idea to reconize a friend in a sitx is a good idea. Though given the sheer size of the united states would make most encounters difficult, especially during certain sitx's where travel restriction would be enforced.

You could start a list and u2u them or even start a group and discuss who you would u2u based on their posts. It would probably be best if some of the members who have known each other the longest on ATS be the core group.

Depending on how serious you are about it, you could mail questionares to prospectives, or go by a cerain post count. It would be work to set that all up with a possiblity of ending up with no ATS member in your bug out area.

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I have friends and family that I know quite intimately and who I would sacrifice much for. I also have many many friends world wide, that I know either in person, or simply online.

In a severe Sit X situation where survival is truly at stake, chances are that someone unknown, walking up to me, will get eaten. A pass phrase is all fine and dandy if you are hold up with a group large enough that you do not know every individual by face. But in a true survival sit, anyone approaching you that you do not know and trust 100% is simply walking protein.

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the community that is ATS and perhaps many of you would be a valuable addition in a severe survival situation, but is it worth taking the chance on a unknown? SOME of you might get a chance to demonstrate value if you state your ATS name and I recognize you that way. The rest will end up in a tasty stew.

Hey. Like, hold on a minute.

That could be confusing, because you might inadvertantly save the life of someone who doesn't know Jack Snap about survival, but who merely enjoys quality adventure/comedy/satire.

On the other hand, at least it could keep you from buddying up with somebody who listens to the feakin Eagles.



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Besides, I personally wouldn't want to hang out with an admirer of the "Big"" Lebowski, who was a gasbag poser who specialized in ripping off innocent strangers. Any of the characters in that film are suspect. I mean they're either militant feminists, or known pornographers, or Nihilists or something.

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[edit on 15-2-2008 by dr_strangecraft]

I have a serious issue with using Our ATS name as a pass frase.

I can see it now We meat up and I yell I am Angry American. they yell get over it as they open fire. LOL

[edit on 15-2-2008 by angryamerican]

reply to post by angryamerican

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Didn't think about that. Guess it's all in a name.
"Let's fill the lifeboats in alphabetical order yelled Mr.Aaron."

Seriously, I didn't think anyone would go into someones camp yelling out any pass phrase. I thought he meant after contact was established. I could have been wrong. I would think that the best approach to a camp might be to yell out "I'm a ________ and I'm friendly. Fill in the blank with something useful like medic or carpenter or blacksmith. That would be the best approach to my camp. Just don't say "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

edit to correct posting error on smilie

[edit on 2/16/2008 by SemperParatus]

How about.. "Trust No One"

Good morning, afternoon, evening wherever you are ! Great thread this one.. i was laughing hard when i read the article about 'people being stewed' ;-) Just a passing thought, i'm thinking of SITX as being quite a monumental event, like nuclear war or major catastrophe, at which point, i imagine that governments across the world would shut the web down completely by removing communications (transmitters,nodes etc) generally used the the normal people, us. If this is the case, then I think radio HAM would be the only thing we have left, unless they hit us with an EMP.

Im really quite your average joe, but having a family, i recognise the very real threat of our increasingly crazy world and as a result have been looking hard into self suffiency; solar panels, wind turbines, growing my own food etc. Reading these threads has helped me greatly in deciding what to grow and how i would try to survive, so thanks to you all for your very valued input.

With the SITX but aside for a moment, I would hope that in the event of something 'bad' occuring, we would all pull together regardless of differentiators like race/background and without the need for secret words

Best of luck in life's game,

Paul

reply to post by angryamerican

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Oh I don't know, you could always yell out a slightly less redneck friendly name while carrying a level action rifle.

Given the low chance of bumping into anyone from here despite there being several members from Ohio. Anyone that has read through the old Rift RPG books will understand why Ohio has so many members. Those that haven't would just need to live here a few years to understand.