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It wasn't that long ago, do you remember? Surplus and buying back debt.




Topic started on 15-2-2008 @ 02:01 AM by FreeThinkerIdealist


It was just 7 1/2 years ago. The U.S. had the biggest surplus in its history, nearly doubling the previous years record setting surplus.

Billy boy may have not been the best, but he wasn't the worst either. I am starting to wish he could take another stab at reducing our national debt.


President Clinton announces another record budget surplus

From CNN White House Correspondent Kelly Wallace

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton announced Wednesday that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion, making it the largest in U.S. history and topping last year's record surplus of $122.7 billion.

"Eight years ago, our future was at risk," Clinton said Wednesday morning. "Economic growth was low, unemployment was high, interest rates were high, the federal debt had quadrupled in the previous 12 years. When Vice President Gore and I took office, the budget deficit was $290 billion, and it was projected this year the budget deficit would be $455 billion."

Instead, the president explained, the $5.7 trillion national debt has been reduced by $360 billion in the last three years -- $223 billion this year alone.

This represents, Clinton said, "the largest one-year debt reduction in the history of the United States."


CNN Archives



Now, we currently have this to look forward to:


Bush Budget Would Bring Record Deficits

By ANDREW TAYLOR – Feb 4, 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) — The record $3.1 trillion budget proposed by President Bush on Monday is almost sure to produce eyepopping federal deficits, despite his attempts to impose politically wrenching curbs on Medicare and eliminate scores of popular domestic programs.

The Pentagon would receive a $36 billion, 8 percent boost for the 2009 budget year beginning Oct. 1, even as programs aimed at the poor would be cut back or eliminated. Half of domestic Cabinet departments would see their budgets cut outright.

Slumping revenues and the cost of an economic rescue package will combine to produce a huge jump in the deficit to $410 billion this year and $407 billion in 2009, the White House says, just shy of the record $413 billion set four years ago.

But even those figures are optimistic since they depend on rosy economic forecasts and leave out the full costs of the war in Iraq. The White House predicts the economy will grow at a 2.7 percent clip this year, far higher than congressional and private economists expect, and the administration's $70 billion figure for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan is simply a placeholder until the next president takes office.


Associated Press



Of course, both those articles are found here at the U.S. National Debt Clock

Current estimates as of this writing are:


U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 15 Feb 2008 at 07:39:56 AM GMT is:
$ 9 , 2 4 6 , 2 1 7 , 2 4 1 , 5 0 7 . 3 4

The estimated population of the United States is 304,363,553
so each citizen's share of this debt is $30,378.86.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.47 billion per day since September 29, 2006!



So ... in less than 8 years, we went from a surplus to nearly doubling our debt. Guess Jr. can't do anything as well as his father, but he sure tries!


You don't have to dislike Bush, just his handling of the budget.
You don't have to like Clinton, just his handling of the budget.



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reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 06:10 AM by C0bzz


Conservative my ass. Isn't that the whole point of conservativism? Balanced, conservative budget?

No?



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reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 06:10 AM by C0bzz


Conservative my ass. Isn't that the whole point of conservativism? Balanced, conservative budget?

No?



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reply posted on 15-2-2008 @ 05:53 PM by FreeThinkerIdealist


Well, they get wooed by lies and false promises (or diverting from true conservatism for socio-political conservatism), then some joker gets in there and fools around for a while.

I would be all for anyone from any party who thinks that (and I feel this defines my view of conservatism) ... wants to lessen government, become less involved in foreign affairs, wants to revitalize its own people/nation, works to be fiscally responsible ... through elimination of free trade that doesn't go both ways, export more goods than import (bring back factory jobs), pay off the debt until we have trillions of credit, less laws and more appeal to peoples morals and common sense (have parents be parents instead of the government, let people pursue happiness as long as it doesn't harm others), government produced goods (a generic like brand, but create jobs, cheap U.S. made products of quality for the lower class, but not a monopoly of produced items), and continue on that line of thought.

I find what we have now is pseudo-conservatism and liberals are full of hot air.

I think the name calling and bickering between them, instead of having intelligent, respectful debate is disgusting.

Why is it that liberals are auto-communists? It seems most who claim this don't understand the definition of the C word nor socialism.

Its a bloody farce.

Despite my stance against free trade, I must say, Clinton did NAFTA in 93 and it worked for a while. Though NWO-proponents will say that was all part of the grand scheme.


I think more people need to pay attention and become more active, not in just opinions, but in actions.

There are some smart and caring people here that would be good in the senate, congress, or capital.


Anyone else think it is sad that we are in debt, people are homeless and starving, but how much money a candidate has raised is celebrated and used as a measuring stick?



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