How do I know when I am being observed

Well I have been watching documentries, and visiting certain websites for years and now I am thinking... is all my internet activity being monitored? I have never seen any black helicopters, or seen any "men in black" but something strange did happen. A few months ago I was at work and looking at infowars, or prisonplanet or one of those. I was also watching different documentries and had google searches open. I got a strange phone call. It's like someone called me, didn't say anything and then hung up. I was on the phone for a while (pretty long for someone with the wrong number). I heard someone on the other end but they didn't say anything. They then hung up, and I hung up. It was weird that they called at that exact moment. Who knows, maybe I'll start seein black helicopters when I post this. Also if any government worker, or person related to any higher power is reading this.... "Hi!"

reply to post by corey1337

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If you are being watched (which I doubt there is a reason you would be) then you wouldn't know.

What you experienced is called a prank call. Usually bored teenagers do it. Also, little kids do it. I have a 4 yr old. And I cant tell you how many times I found her with the phone, after dialing some random person - and I could hear "hello?" "hello?".

So yeah, you are experiencing paranoia based on all the stuff you entertain your mind with.........and some prank/accident calls.

Hey, happens to the best of us

I did get a strange phone call from a strange sounding old man who never said who he was. He spoke in grunts and said he was looking for "Vinnie". Sometimes the phone rings and when I pick up there is noone there. It could happen several times a day, sometimes a few times in a row, and I could pick up the phone after 5 rings or after 1 ring. Very strange phone calls.

But If the general public is being watched, or if I happen to visit a website that is being watched, I might draw some attention.

reply to post by corey1337

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I guess I dont find your accounts as anything other then normal.

Thousands of people visit this site and similar sites. I seriously doubt every single person is being watched.

But if you still think you are being watched...why do you think that *You* would be watched over say someone else here?

Well I tend to visit a lot of sites, and google things constantly. I have found websites where people go to discuss upcoming bilderberg meetings. I don't look over my shoulder constantly and I have no reason to be followed but I feel it could be due to high activity could draw attention.

Well instead of doubting and dismissing what you are saying , I say never second guess your gut feeling and you'll never be wrong. listen to your inner voice and let the people who try to discount everything that is written here fool themselves....
Start buying counter intelligence devices and implementing them in your everyday life and make the decision for yourself . Don't let the doubting thomas's try and convince you of anything , they just might be the one's that your talking about .
Counter Intelligence is not only necessary in todays world it's going to be your best way to stay competitive and safe in a growing world of electronic devices...
Also don't ever ASSUME anything when it come's to your life and outside forces are able to influence the outcome......
When you "ASSUME" it makes an ASS out of U and ME....

Unless there is the threat of action on your part, "they" probably aren't watching you. The strange things happen to people who have the ability to damage the "new order", people who are trying to bring crimes to light, educate the public etc.

I say if you wait until there is a threat of action it's probably too late by then.
Don't be a victim. Take a proactive roll in your life and don't wait until someone else has the upper hand to take action.
Complacency is equalevant to handing your right's away to people who don't have your better interest's at hand.
Our world is ever changing before our eyes , keep up or be mashed down in the mud with the rest of the duck's.

[edit on 16-2-2008 by ironman433]

There’s a very simple way to know when you are being observed. It’s whenever you’re breathing. The technology that governments possess is far beyond that which the common folks are allowed to know about, and you can be sure they are making the most of it. If there is any reason at all for you to be observed, you are being observed. If they have determined that you are no threat, then probably not.

I almost feel the need to call them out so I can do something to prove that there is a group of people that want to know more about me and try to silence any attempt of thinking for myself.

You've probably already done that to a limited degree by posting your opinions on line. I would however caution you to count the cost before you go smacking a bunch of cold blooded murderers upside the head.

Resistor that is probably the most sound advice that i've heard from anyone ,anywhere in a while and i feel that everyone should heed those words as well...
Thats why they call it the Great State of TEXAS my compadre. Also because as a citizen your still allowed to shoot criminals dead without the fear of prison... as you might very well know ,, here in california if you even mumble the word gun it's straight to jail you go to be treated like the dog you are ..........

reply to post by corey1337

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If you're being monitored it's because you're doing something dangerous or you're asking the right questions to the wrong people. I doubt this is going on, but my tips would be this:

Go about your daily life.
Make no aloud mention to being followed.
And don't contact people you know you wouldn't want to be seen with.
Don't break the law.
Search your home, I mean every nook and cranny, and take apart the casings of communications equipment and look for attachments that are jerry rigged into the system. Or a device that obviously doesn't belong.
Run network diagnostics on your system using some kind of wizard software and see if any of your hardware has changed in any way.
Look for newly installed programs. Look for processes you've never seen before. (All of this requires a bit of book lernin' if ya ain't already got it.)
Download freeware packet sniffers and save a log of all packets sent and received and ping any ip address that belongs to government servers or workstations. Or, even better, ip addresses with blank values(and other spoofing techniques that are very apparent) will show up on a decent sniffer/packet grabber system, including a list of ports accessed so you can find out what they could have bugged and you can replace those programs. Or just reinstall the OS.

Don't throw anything away that would give away communications data or any document that could characterize any sensitive information or involvements you may be connected to. Burn it to memory and then burn it in fire.

Do not make phone calls on nearby pay phones, or your cell phones or any phone that belongs to you, your friends, or anyone you know. Do not use public information systems like library computers. These events are regularly logged by their respective administrators and any information can be leaked to the observing party(which you are trying to avoid).

Do not use chat systems of any kind or log in to any account. Do not make any financial transactions which could be construed as material evidence in your surveillance.

Do not leave town or attempt to board a bus or air plane. This will most certainly increase the level of observation of your movements.

Do not meet anyone in places you've been to before. Especially if there are financial records tracing you to the place of business. For example. You go to a bar to have a secret meeting with high level official and you stupidly use your credit card to pay for your drinks. You should of used cash..Always use cash. Do not take cash from an ATM near you or bank at a branch near you this will lessen the probability of receiving marked money which would make you extremely traceable in terms of whereabouts and happenings and what you are purchasing. Do not sign for anything and do not take packages you know nothing of. Do not order anything on line because the package contents may be compromised.

Do not leave your windows open at all during a meeting at home. Have your conversations in the laundry room with both machines running with change in them. This will greatly reduce discernible audio recording and eavesdropping.

There's more, but I think you get the idea.



[edit on 18-2-2008 by Someone67]

reply to post by corey1337

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Maybe whoever is watching you got bored and wanted to prank call you to amuse themselves.

I am not trying to insult you or make light of your concerns; however, I think that researching these topics and watching documentaries -especially ones by Alex Jones- does lend itself to a bit of paranoia. It is human nature, I think.

I can remember being a teenager and having someone tell me that certain library books were "flagged" and if you took them out you would end up on a watchlist- back in those days I imagine it was books like "The Anarchist's Cookbook." Whether or not that was true then I do not know, but I do believe it to be the case now.

From my own experience I can tell you this... Over the past few years I have gone to Alex Jones' sites, I have looked on numerous websites that I am sure are flagged, watched countless conspiracy videos on Google and youtube, and I came here to ATS quite a bit- long before I became an official member. I was researching conspiracy theories for my own curiosity, and then was going to write a big encyclopedia of conspiracy theories until I realized that there was already at least one big one out there.

And I have never had anything creepy happen. No phone calls, nothing with my computer, and the only helicopters I see are either from the Army Reserve Base, hospital, or police station, all of which are within a few miles from me. Sometimes I wave to the ones that look to be military from my computer room window, just in case.

While I am sure that I am on some watch lists, I feel that if anyone was watching me or listening to me they would get bored pretty fast. Yesterday I had a very exciting conversation with my Mom about how her dog loves the peanut butter treats from Trader Joe's, and a few conversations with friends about happy hours. Although, a friend of mine was telling me about how I would love the show "Jericho" and since I said how "I love a good conspiracy theory" at least once in my conversation with her I did find myself wondering if perhaps that set off Echelon.

As I said in another post, I do not think that the powers that be spend that much time worrying about people who are seeking information. I believe that they really only care about people who discover real evidence of something they are trying to cover up and/or people who seek to make that evidence known, or those who gather a huge following- and by huge I mean JFK, RFK, MLK, and John Lennon.

Please don't misunderstand my thoughts........

A common factor in someone feeling they are being watched is an inflated sense of self-importance. Hear me out: I am not implying you are not an important person, or lacking in value.

What I am saying is this: who would care that you are perusing certain web sites or care what information you might learn from them? If you stumbled upon a real gem of information, among the countless amounts of utter nonsense on various conspiracy web sites how would you be able to discern truth from flights of fancy? Suppose you were able to discern that one gem of truth...what could you do with that knowledge? How many people would believe you?

See what I mean?

One thing that conspiracy theories require is "them" caring about what you might find out; based on a hugely over-inflated sense of self importance in the matter at hand.

Again, I am not insinuating that you are lacking in worth or importance. I am suggesting that "they" don't give a rats behind what you and I are posting on sites like this.

There are much more important things for them to monitor or keep track of.

[edit on 20-2-2008 by SlightlyAbovePar]

nothing unusual, happens to me all the time and I'm sure it's not because of my 'alternate' interests. You should be aware though that there is no such thing as anonymity online; your IP is your digital soul and everyone has access to it.

If you're really looking for privacy though, use a proxy.

Don't worry, if you're being watched, there's nothing you can do about it so worrying want help.

Covert operations are very real...

(Out of my own personal fear of my door being kicked in during the night and led of to a Black SUV and whisked off as a subversive never to be released again, I will not disclose here anything that Homeland Security can act on..nor anything that would jepordize our Countrys Security..)

An operation was run around Puget Sounds surrounding counties starting the end of the Month of May 1994, I have many many things documented with pictures and videos which I have "stached"...
In May of 94 Hundreds of "suspecious (out of place) people had shown up in this area....in New "Lease Vehicles" close cropped hair, and many other things I won't disclose here..

They worked in conjunction with many, many agencys, and seemed to be headed by FEMA..I endured 24/7 surveilance for over 18 months before they backed off of me, I only escaped this surveilance 3 times completly for a period of several days to a week and only then it resumed when I resurfaced...
At first I was terrified, then I was curious, then I became extreemly angry because I could not discover who they were and for what purpose I was being messed with...
Over a period of 9 years I amassed boxes and boxes of data but only 5 years ago actually discovered who was really working with FEMA and agencys below in this project..
On the internet I finally found someone in Canada who had posted on His website a story, not only a simular story but almost so identical to mine I thought one of my confidants had related it to Him, only exception is that He experienced it in British Columbia, Canada about 95 miles North of me however closely during the same time period...
When gathering my evidence it covers articles from National magazines that include a Mind thought implanting device our Government had purchased from the Soviet Union in the Early 90's and names the American Company licensed to produce them..

Black Hellicopters ?
I have video of 2 of them flying approximately 500 feet from me (then I zoomed in on them) and their landing.. I spent an hour before I could find them on the ground and videoed 5 of them "parked" next to an aircraft hanger in Northern Nevada....

Internment Camps ?
I have copies of the Congressional Record from 1994 or 5 which authorizes funding for the construction of 60 of the first ones...

Halogram experimentation on the public ?
Reports from over 50 people including myself who had seen them many times in 1993-1994...

My main reasoning on disputing the 9/11 report is that I cannot in good faith accept the idea that our Agencys were caught with their pants down..
After what I went through..

If the owner of this website contacts me personally I'll transfer all of my materials, I'm in my 60's now and have had 4 heart attacks so I'm on borrowed time and need to pass my collection on befor something befalls..
Then owner can decide the merits and how and what to disclose to ya'll.
May God save us all...
Since the Government already is totally familar with this old 60's dissident and most likely moniter my internet and this site I'll post with my name... I have this to say, I have my stuff stashed for over 14 years and you never found it, time the public gets a peek at the real "Shadow Government" especially since the Elections are nearing....
BigKim

Covert operations are very real...

(Out of my own personal fear of my door being kicked in during the night and led of to a Black SUV and whisked off as a subversive never to be released again, I will not disclose here anything that Homeland Security can act on..nor anything that would jepordize our Countrys Security..)

An operation was run around Puget Sounds surrounding counties starting the end of the Month of May 1994, I have many many things documented with pictures and videos which I have "stached"...
In May of 94 Hundreds of "suspecious (out of place) people had shown up in this area....in New "Lease Vehicles" close cropped hair, and many other things I won't disclose here..

They worked in conjunction with many, many agencys, and seemed to be headed by FEMA..I endured 24/7 surveilance for over 18 months before they backed off of me, I only escaped this surveilance 3 times completly for a period of several days to a week and only then it resumed when I resurfaced...
At first I was terrified, then I was curious, then I became extreemly angry because I could not discover who they were and for what purpose I was being messed with...
Over a period of 9 years I amassed boxes and boxes of data but only 5 years ago actually discovered who was really working with FEMA and agencys below in this project..
On the internet I finally found someone in Canada who had posted on His website a story, not only a simular story but almost so identical to mine I thought one of my confidants had related it to Him, only exception is that He experienced it in British Columbia, Canada about 95 miles North of me however closely during the same time period...
When gathering my evidence it covers articles from National magazines that include a Mind thought implanting device our Government had purchased from the Soviet Union in the Early 90's and names the American Company licensed to produce them..

Black Hellicopters ?
I have video of 2 of them flying approximately 500 feet from me (then I zoomed in on them) and their landing.. I spent an hour before I could find them on the ground and videoed 5 of them "parked" next to an aircraft hanger in Northern Nevada....

Internment Camps ?
I have copies of the Congressional Record from 1994 or 5 which authorizes funding for the construction of 60 of the first ones...

Halogram experimentation on the public ?
Reports from over 50 people including myself who had seen them many times in 1993-1994...

My main reasoning on disputing the 9/11 report is that I cannot in good faith accept the idea that our Agencys were caught with their pants down..
After what I went through..

If the owner of this website contacts me personally I'll transfer all of my materials, I'm in my 60's now and have had 4 heart attacks so I'm on borrowed time and need to pass my collection on befor something befalls..
Then owner can decide the merits and how and what to disclose to ya'll.
May God save us all...
Since the Government already is totally familar with this old 60's dissident and most likely moniter my internet and this site I'll post with my name... I have this to say, I have my stuff stashed for over 14 years and you never found it, time the public gets a peek at the real "Shadow Government" especially since the Elections are nearing....
BigKim

Covert operations are very real...

(Out of my own personal fear of my door being kicked in during the night and led of to a Black SUV and whisked off as a subversive never to be released again, I will not disclose here anything that Homeland Security can act on..nor anything that would jepordize our Countrys Security..)

An operation was run around Puget Sounds surrounding counties starting the end of the Month of May 1994, I have many many things documented with pictures and videos which I have "stached"...
In May of 94 Hundreds of "suspecious (out of place) people had shown up in this area....in New "Lease Vehicles" close cropped hair, and many other things I won't disclose here..

They worked in conjunction with many, many agencys, and seemed to be headed by FEMA..I endured 24/7 surveilance for over 18 months before they backed off of me, I only escaped this surveilance 3 times completly for a period of several days to a week and only then it resumed when I resurfaced...
At first I was terrified, then I was curious, then I became extreemly angry because I could not discover who they were and for what purpose I was being messed with...
Over a period of 9 years I amassed boxes and boxes of data but only 5 years ago actually discovered who was really working with FEMA and agencys below in this project..
On the internet I finally found someone in Canada who had posted on His website a story, not only a simular story but almost so identical to mine I thought one of my confidants had related it to Him, only exception is that He experienced it in British Columbia, Canada about 95 miles North of me however closely during the same time period...
When gathering my evidence it covers articles from National magazines that include a Mind thought implanting device our Government had purchased from the Soviet Union in the Early 90's and names the American Company licensed to produce them..

Black Hellicopters ?
I have video of 2 of them flying approximately 500 feet from me (then I zoomed in on them) and their landing.. I spent an hour before I could find them on the ground and videoed 5 of them "parked" next to an aircraft hanger in Northern Nevada....

Internment Camps ?
I have copies of the Congressional Record from 1994 or 5 which authorizes funding for the construction of 60 of the first ones...

Halogram experimentation on the public ?
Reports from over 50 people including myself who had seen them many times in 1993-1994...

My main reasoning on disputing the 9/11 report is that I cannot in good faith accept the idea that our Agencys were caught with their pants down..
After what I went through..

If the owner of this website contacts me personally I'll transfer all of my materials, I'm in my 60's now and have had 4 heart attacks so I'm on borrowed time and need to pass my collection on befor something befalls..
Then owner can decide the merits and how and what to disclose to ya'll.
May God save us all...
Since the Government already is totally familar with this old 60's dissident and most likely moniter my internet and this site I'll post with my name... I have this to say, I have my stuff stashed for over 14 years and you never found it, time the public gets a peek at the real "Shadow Government" especially since the Elections are nearing....
BigKim

I've had an odd woman ring three times looking for a guy named 'Bruce'. Next time she calls, I'm just going to say 'yes... this is Bruce! What can I do for you?'

But to answer the question, are you being watched. No. You're a drop in the ocean. Unless you've been doing something really really bad, like smuggling turtles (OK, something much worse), you're not under observation. Of course, everyone is more or less under some form of collective observation, mainly through systems like echelon.

But in reality, it's extremely expensive to keep tabs on someone. Lots of agencies give up halfway through because the funds don't justify the outcome. So, I have to ask, what have you been up to that makes you think you're being monitored...?

[edit on 27-2-2008 by mattguy404]