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Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by idle_rocker
Exadtly... Gehenna was a nasty place, a garbage dump. Fires did burn there. But it wasn't eternal. A life of sin is garbage - wasted. There are many Biblical allusions to "trial by fire" and the "refiners fire". When you refine gold by fire you clean it. God punishes - he doesn't torture. There's a difference. Even nations have laws against torture, are we more loving than God? God didn't create billions of people to watch them burn and suffer for eternity -- that's pure evil. The idea that he would is a demonic deception. It's a prime reason many people turn away from God. It needs to be exposed for what it is. A Big Lie.
Did I miss something bigwhammy? I missed the previous post.
[edit on 2/16/2008 by Bigwhammy]
Originally posted by jdposey
I have been following this thread and I didn't see these scriptures addressed. If they have been addressed here, I apologize. I wanted to see what opinions we have concerning these scriptures?
19"There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23In hell,[c] where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
25"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
Reply to AshleyD
Originally posted by defcon365
As a Christian, do you reject the words of Christ and the Apostles? They both provide numerous descriptions of Hell in the Bible as a VERY real place!
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.