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Imagine a sexual world

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posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 07:21 AM
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Sex has always been something taboo, because of religion, beliefs and the nature of it. Our ancestors didn't have contraceptive and sex was mostly for reproduction.
But nowadays we have contraceptives and people are more open minded about sex. It's still taboo and any mention causes blushes, giggles, outrages or even imprisonment.
Why can't we today see sex as a recreational activity? Why is sex considered as cheating or sin? Perhaps in 500 years, having sex with someone will be as benign as watching a dvd or playing tennis with someone and sex olympics would regularly happen.
What do you think?




posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 07:29 AM
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Well it is like that with some people it just all boils down to your own ID well maybe in 500 years it will be like that or maybe we will be forced to fluid exchange like in demolition man now i wont be alive then so I enjoy it as much as I can have it.



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 07:44 AM
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Sex in itself is not a sin. But misuse of it and letting it control you is a sin.



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 07:48 AM
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Well how about controlling sex sex is a very powerful weapon so in this could you let a an ar 15 shoot you i think not



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by TheOracle
Why can't we today see sex as a recreational activity? What do you think?


Actually, that is what sex has been for many years, a recreational activity and what has it produced? Just look at all the sexually transmitted diseases that have come out of such recreational use.

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posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:06 AM
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There is a 'sexual world', actually. Year or so ago, I watched a section of what I think was a documentary about primates: Bonobos.

From what I remember of it, Bononbos engage in sexual activity almost continually. Sex is used by Bonobos to defuse tension, disagreements, etc.

I vividly remember a close-up of a male Bonobo with a tiny, baby Bobobo installed on the end of its penis. This is apparently common in the Bobonbo world.

The male adult Bonobo was casually perched on a branch, one arm around a vine, the other around the baby Bobobo impaled on its sex organ. Either the adult or baby were at the time munching on a banana.

In the Bonobo world, sex so frequently engaged in would doubtless render it as meaningful as ... eating a banana.

According to anthropologist Margaret Mead, certain South Pacific island communities have a similarly relaxed attitude to sex. She claims young members of the tribe sleep together in large long-houses and commence sexual activity at an early age. Mead claims this is accepted, approved of and encouraged by older community members.

According to Mead, this casual approach to sex results in societies which are more closely bound than Westerners, with none of the sexual jealousies, neuroses etc. suffered by those in the West.

Similar practices were engaged in by members of 'hippie' communes in the 60s and 70s, for instance, where sharing of sexual partners was referred to as 'free love'. Women and men had a variety of sexual partners .. sexual possessiveness was discouraged .. paternity was not an issue, even within married couples. Threesomes, foursomes, etc. were the claimed norm, as was homosexuality, bisexuality, etc.

Not sure what 'sex olympics' would entail, but it's my impression that many (currently and in previous eras) regard sex as a recreational activity and there are many who engage in group-sex, 'wife swapping', etc.

It becomes 'cheating' if one partner in a relationship betrays a vow of faithfulness. They could avoid subsequent recriminations (divorce, etc.) were they to inform their partner in advance (preferably prior to entering the relationship) that they intended to engage in sex outside the relationship. A vow or promise of sexual exclusivity is a contract similar to any other contract. Broken contracts are a betrayal.

Imprisonment is usally reserved (in the West) for those who have forced sexual relations upon another or a series of others, as in rape, paedophilia.

Blushes, giggles, etc. are usually the response in sexual matters of those with limited sexual experience or the inhibited.

I think you'll discover that many engage in sex whilst watching tv, dvd's. Often such people are alone at the time.

In response to your question of 'what do you think?' ... it's my experience that people approach the issue of sex from as many points of view as they approach any other activity: cooking, painting, socialising, etc.

For some, sex .. like cooking or fishing .. is an art-form: something to be approached with respect, dedication, reverence, etc.

Others approach sex as they do throwing a frozen meal in the microwave ... as something the body 'wants' .. of no deep meaning .. an appetite swiftly satisfied and just as swiftly forgotten.



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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The enforcing of sex and sexuality as a taboo subject in the modern, western world effectively stems from Victorian times. Certainly in Britain from Tudor times until the early 1800s sex was nothing to be ashamed about, flirting was par for the course as was the use of prostitutes. Open attitudes towards sex have existed in soceity since the very dawn of man. Even the pilgrim fathers were rather more up for it than we are inclined to think; it was common for a man and woman to sleep together before marriage, indeed it was encouraged as a sort of "try before you buy".

Increased prudishness in Britain during Victorian times coincides with a greater evangelism in Christianity amongst the middle and upper middle classes (there is nothing much to suggest that the Upper Classes have done anything other than roger each other senseless) and similar attitudes developed in the USA. One theory is that increased religious prudence was a response to the development of empire and a desire to be seen as being "above the savages" who, being simple tribal folk, used to love it up them. This view still prevails in many white, christian, far right communities where black people are considered to be promiscuous and motivated purely by lust.

It is also interesting to note that increased sexual prudence comes hand in hand with greater subjugation of women who go from having the potential to succeed as business women and entrepeneurs in the 1700s to being viewed as little more than housewives, a view which would prevail right through until the end of the Great War in Britain and the 1960s in the USA.



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:14 AM
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Well i can say one thing,,,,if that is you in the photo i agree one hundred percent...






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posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:21 AM
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posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:31 AM
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I was going to say the exact same thing.



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:33 AM
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I think sex is the best gift that can be given to someone. It's the ultimate form of sharing, the most personal.

To make olympics out of it would take away the personal closeness that can be shared by people whom it matters to as a form of love. I would never have sex with a person I was not in love with.

It's not the motion, it's the emotion!



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:38 AM
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It's should be noted that sex is the only form of exercise that is universally enjoyed - we owe it to fat people... No errm... yhea why not?



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 08:44 AM
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wow thier are alot of interesting point here so I am seeing alot moral reasons and stuff but the simple fact of the matter is your either open to it or your not I know I am



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 09:06 AM
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A few things to point out.

I don’t know anyone personally of any religion that thinks sex itself is a sin.

If I had sex with someone other than my wife for recreational purposes or otherwise my wife would call it cheating and rightfully so. If I truly love my wife I would have no need to have sex with anyone other than her.

As far as I have known it sex has been a recreational thing. People have sex all the time it happens many times on a daily basis for more than just reproduction making it recreational.

Protection of all kinds do not always work and have been known to fail thus many unwanted or unexpected pregnancies. The best way to protect yourself some STD or pregnancy when it comes to sexual activity is not to have sex. Other than that one must face the risks involved.

I personally love sex and have it for reasons other than reproduction making it recreational to me. It is a thing that is used to help hold a certain closeness in the relationship with my wife. Without it I am sure things would be different to some degree. Sex is also a great way to reduce stress.

Maybe the OP is just far too concerned with what others think to allow themselves to view their sex life as fully recreational. I see plenty of people every day that are obviously not concerned with what I think of their sex life.

Raist



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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"Perhaps in 500 years, having sex with someone will be as benign as watching a dvd or playing tennis with someone and sex olympics would regularly happen. "

I take it you havn't been to Europe, we over here are not so prude as the Americans are.
Taboo, blushes and giggles? no way.



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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They should rename this forum "Sexworks" instead of Skunkworks. I'm with ya. Sex is a powerful tool and should be managed wisely by the individual carrying it. Seems like sex sells just about everything these days.




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posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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Interesting comment about 'cheating'.

Why should this be a problem? Maybe it wouldn't if we were all more independent and more confident? I wonder if part of it is due to the need to preserve some stability in society. Would there be 'cheating' on a planet with, say, three sexes?


If you like apple pie, and eating it gives you pleasure and your 'wife' makes apple pie, should she be mad and leave you if you eat someone else's apple pie?

Hardly.

So why have a taboo and a proscription against your 'partner' receiving and giving pleasure as long as it doesn't impact your own bonding? In fact, having sexual experience is considered a plus, of course until you get married, then there's a strange dichotomy where virginity is considered valuable and a virtue, but experience or prowess is desirable.

According to Robert Heinlein, in Stranger in a Strange Land, jealousy doesn't follow logically. It's a negative emotion.

I'm not saying I know the answer, nor that infidelity is a good thing. Just posing some provocative thoughts.

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posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 11:44 AM
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what gets me is how it is NOT allowed to be portrayed on tv. that along with private parts of the male and female....i think it is a friggin joke.

i never understood why i could watch a show like bones or csi and there would be all kinds of graphic stuff. bodies chopped up and stuffed in barrels and all kinds of things. violent murders and that but you can't show a boobie.

maybe one day sex won't be so taboo. i wish people would get a grip



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 11:50 AM
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Good point. Most say it goes back to our puritanical and religous roots.

I'd much rather see limits on violence, or at least ratings that address this rather than over the top reactions at the 'accidental' showing of a boob.

I do think we're getting better at just blurring out body parts rather than cutting a segment and making the plot impossible to follow.

What's funny is that people might advertize as being sex therapists and we had one ad in our local paper about 'porn for women'. At the same time if you are 'caught' looking at porn, or even talking about it you are in trouble. Heaven forbid they find it on your laptop at the airport.

Yet I'm sure the guards all go in the back and drool over any confiscated materials.

It's just another method of oppression, imo.



posted on Feb, 14 2008 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by TheOracle
It's still taboo and any mention causes blushes, giggles, outrages or even imprisonment.
Why can't we today see sex as a recreational activity? Why is sex considered as cheating or sin?



Times are changing and have changed. Western Europe is probably No.1 in sexual openness....more so than the USA or Eastern Europe (where you are from, right?).

Go to Scandinavian, Dutch and Germanic countries and you wont see many people blushing.

But dont forget that no longer blushing and no longer having a few taboos, makes something less exciting/desirable.



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