Amazing UFO Photographs By Pilots! Incontrovertible evidence?

Pilot won't talk about it or report it, is simply because there's no need to. UFOs rarely breach the flight safety of an aircraft and pilots are often, and usually too occupied flying the plane, rather than looking out the Window at something that they cannot explain.

And if they had reported it, what makes you think anything would be investigated? Again, if it didn't influence the safety of the aircraft, then why waste recources, hence money, on something that could just be swamp gas?

A pilot who does report it will not make one again, as they will just tell him to be quiet and stop wasting time, because, what makes a UFO sighting special because it's reported from an Aircraft? Well obviously if it breaches the safety of the aircraft there is, but what about the majority of sightings? Nothing makes them special. Just another story.

And that will add to the effect, 'just another story', because UFOs are so rare in Commercial aircraft, the true reports are labelled as 'just another story. I, have never talked to a pilot who has seen a UFO. I have, however, talking to an ex- RB-57 pilot whose plane was regarded as a UFO by a commercial jet WAAAYY beneath him.

That being said, when you see something buzz the aircraft, fly in close proximity to the aircraft, or influence the safety of the aircraft.... which I'm sure has happened, it NEEDS to be investigated. And the Military also needs to investigate these things more.

Exellent proof has been provided on this great.... nice work.

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The video clearly shows an F-16 not an F-15... I have no idea how someone could confuse the two. And it is supposed to be FILMED by a Mig.


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Hi C0bzz
There are two different cases involving alleged MIGs in the "KBG" film: (i've just posted the relevant controversial before someone else does): it would be great if you could help us to conclusively identify all the aircrafts involved in the KGB ufo stuff.



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Sorry for the one liner...


But which two videos?

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First video is definately the ACES two ejection system, used on American fighters... And I'm certain I've seen that video before... only without the UFO.

While the second is something filming an F-16... however, as one of the videos is fake, then I guess the other has a high change of being fake too.

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Thank you C0bzz: a star to you. Finally, someone who mentions the ejection systems' name: i think that now this will help so much. The other video is less known, but pheraps it comes from the same documentary: i have to check it out; thank you again

Edit to add: here is it


Source:
www.ejectionsite.com...


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Here's another pic. This seems to be an ACES II ES. So is the vid being taken looking behind? But check out the direction of movement of the aircraft. Something seems odd up here!



This seat is being currently used in the A- l0, F- l5, F-l6, F-117A, B-lB, and B-2 aircraft. I'm not aware of it being used in any Russian craft. Or do they have similar design ejection seats? That would be more likely. It's also possible that ACES ES have been installed in the upgraded versions of the MiGs 21s.

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Mike, here there's a detailed drawing: it seems that the environmental sensing pitot, has more or less the same appearance from the front and from behind: but i'm not an expert, i don't know ...

I've found some analysis on the UFO photographed in Costa Rica (this one)


Photo Analyses of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica
by Richard F. Haines & Jacques F. Vallee

• Abstract
  
• Geographic Locale
  
• Parameters of the Photograph
  
• The Disc Image: Analysis Results
  
• Ground Shadows
  
• Digital Enhancement
  
• Subsequent Ground Sightings
  
• Discussion
  
• Referee's Review of "Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica," by Haines and Vallee, prepared by Marilyn E. Bruner, Sr. Staff Scientist, Lockheed Palo Alto Research Laboratory
  
• Author's Reply to Referee's Review
  
• Concerning the Possibility of a Trapped Foreign Particle
  

and

Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica: New Evidence

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Hi there

Very interesting photoes, take a look at this photo.
This is a photo of a window from a resterant and the so called ufo's are actully the lights reflection from the resterant lights.



PLease feel free to leave any comments.

From Matt

My grandfather flew the F-100 in vietnam (image below).



He told me a story once about a buddy of his who saw a massive cigar shaped object at his 3 o'clock. The object kept pace with the small fighter (it was a training mission). My grandad never told me this guy's name. The story was told to me 11 years ago.

The pilot never divulged this information to anyone, but shared the information with my grandfather because they trusted each other and had a close working relationship. My grandad said that this gentleman was not the type of person to tell tall tales. He believes that this pilot saw something bizarre beyond our understanding.

It hit me recently that perhaps he was referring to something he, himself, had seen. My grandfather is certainly not the type to tell tall tales either. In fact, after 20 years in the air force he retired and taught high school science in northeastern Oklahoma for another 20 years.

Pilot accounts of UFO's are certainly more interesting. Especially since the pilot's natural instincts are to observe the object closely. Most pilots have first-hand knowledge of what aircraft, in general, look like. This means that any UFO that is encountered would be that much less likely to be any normal airplane, helicopter, etc.. Pilots are also good gauges at size, speed, and distance. therefore, a pilot can more or less provide a wealth of information that may not be attainable from other witnesses.

Pilots are also less likely to bend the truth due to the possibility of ridicule or even loss of work. There are many accounts of pilots having extraordinary encounters with UFO's, reporting their experience officially with their organisations and/or the FAA, and being grounded, fired, etc.. The one that comes to mind off-hand is the UFO sighting here in my home-state of Alaska..After the Alaska Airlines flight 53 UFO sighting, the pilot was grounded.

Video of John Callahan, former FAA division cheif, citing the UFO sighting of a japanese airline inbound to Anchorage Alaska to refuel. Very interesting radio communications included. One of the many not so easily explainable, well documented UFO cases out there.
www.youtube.com...

More reports of pilot sightings of UFO's.
www.ufoevidence.org...

-ChriS



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internos, have you checked out this report?



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Thanks BlasteR for the very interesting links! Even if 90% sightings are explainable after pages of analyses , the remainder are inexplicable and therefore point towards the presence of phenomenon beyond our comprehension. But whether these craft are alien in origin or otherwise, it seems there is a lot going on in our skies as well as in space that we're not privy to!

Cheers!






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Yes, Mike: the case remains unexplained: and that's a battery of serious analysis. No one has been able to re-create the same effect.

That particular pic looks like a hoax to me, the Lago de Cote one if you look, unless its just a photo scratch, you can see a straight line come out from it to the side, one thing in photography is you can take a pic of something close up and have it look like its far away.

Well, I believe a lot of analyses lasting months, have been done on this particular frame, concluding that the object remains unidentified. Your contention of a photographic anomaly is rather simplistic. You mean they hadn't thought of this within the first couple of minutes of their analysis?

Mike, the problem is always the same: there are "analysts" who always scream "fake", but when asked to create the same effect they are UNABLE to: so their ones ares just speculations, NOTHING else.

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Its funny this particular "scratch" only appears connecting to this object and nothing of similar is seen in the entire picture.



red lines is identifying this in the pic.

more evidence is in the object itself which is not a perfect round object, its bent in a couple ways to prevent from being completely round.

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The analysis on this type of photos MUST be made on the ORIGINAL film, period. This is NOT a digital image so every attempt to extract information from the print is simply meaningless. It has been made a series of analysis by trained people so the idea that today someone finds something that hasn't been found before simply looking at a low res print is insane: new analysis on the original film should be made with appropriate devices, in the correct way and by trained people, IMHO.

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Here's another interesting sighting...


David McCune took this photo of a UFO while flying at 37,000 feet
from Atlanta to Kansas City.
Courtesy: Frank Warren



Someone will scream, "Reflection from the cockpit!!" But then reflections don't go behind clouds!! And this 'reflection' wasn't visible to the naked eye until it was brought up on the computer.

Cheers!

Refs:
www.fayobserver.com...
frankwarren.blogspot.com...

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I wish i had the photo he's holding in this one

Image source: UFO AREA

I've found this one on his website,
H E R E :



Too bad i couldn't find further infos about this sighting ...


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Good thread mikesingh, starred and flagged.

Here is some extra info about , The B-57 1954 unseen UFO picture.

ufologie.net...

RUFFREADY mentioned it first.



There is also stated in that article;


And that is exactly the way it is, but it is no definite proof of an Extraterrestrial craft.

So, I think that what Nohup says is also right.



If you dont mind I look also for more pictures.