Amazing UFO Photographs By Pilots! Incontrovertible evidence? , page 5

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Hi C0bzz
There are two different cases involving alleged MIGs in the "KBG" film: (i've just posted the relevant controversial before someone else does): it would be great if you could help us to conclusively identify all the aircrafts involved in the KGB ufo stuff.



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reply to post by C0bzz

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Thank you C0bzz: a star to you. Finally, someone who mentions the ejection systems' name: i think that now this will help so much. The other video is less known, but pheraps it comes from the same documentary: i have to check it out; thank you again

Edit to add: here is it


Source:
www.ejectionsite.com...


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reply to post by mikesingh

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Mike, here there's a detailed drawing: it seems that the environmental sensing pitot, has more or less the same appearance from the front and from behind: but i'm not an expert, i don't know ...

I've found some analysis on the UFO photographed in Costa Rica (this one)


Photo Analyses of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica
by Richard F. Haines & Jacques F. Vallee

• Abstract
  
• Geographic Locale
  
• Parameters of the Photograph
  
• The Disc Image: Analysis Results
  
• Ground Shadows
  
• Digital Enhancement
  
• Subsequent Ground Sightings
  
• Discussion
  
• Referee's Review of "Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica," by Haines and Vallee, prepared by Marilyn E. Bruner, Sr. Staff Scientist, Lockheed Palo Alto Research Laboratory
  
• Author's Reply to Referee's Review
  
• Concerning the Possibility of a Trapped Foreign Particle
  

and

Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica: New Evidence

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Hi there

Very interesting photoes, take a look at this photo.
This is a photo of a window from a resterant and the so called ufo's are actully the lights reflection from the resterant lights.



PLease feel free to leave any comments.

From Matt

My grandfather flew the F-100 in vietnam (image below).



He told me a story once about a buddy of his who saw a massive cigar shaped object at his 3 o'clock. The object kept pace with the small fighter (it was a training mission). My grandad never told me this guy's name. The story was told to me 11 years ago.

The pilot never divulged this information to anyone, but shared the information with my grandfather because they trusted each other and had a close working relationship. My grandad said that this gentleman was not the type of person to tell tall tales. He believes that this pilot saw something bizarre beyond our understanding.

It hit me recently that perhaps he was referring to something he, himself, had seen. My grandfather is certainly not the type to tell tall tales either. In fact, after 20 years in the air force he retired and taught high school science in northeastern Oklahoma for another 20 years.

Pilot accounts of UFO's are certainly more interesting. Especially since the pilot's natural instincts are to observe the object closely. Most pilots have first-hand knowledge of what aircraft, in general, look like. This means that any UFO that is encountered would be that much less likely to be any normal airplane, helicopter, etc.. Pilots are also good gauges at size, speed, and distance. therefore, a pilot can more or less provide a wealth of information that may not be attainable from other witnesses.

Pilots are also less likely to bend the truth due to the possibility of ridicule or even loss of work. There are many accounts of pilots having extraordinary encounters with UFO's, reporting their experience officially with their organisations and/or the FAA, and being grounded, fired, etc.. The one that comes to mind off-hand is the UFO sighting here in my home-state of Alaska..After the Alaska Airlines flight 53 UFO sighting, the pilot was grounded.

Video of John Callahan, former FAA division cheif, citing the UFO sighting of a japanese airline inbound to Anchorage Alaska to refuel. Very interesting radio communications included. One of the many not so easily explainable, well documented UFO cases out there.
www.youtube.com...

More reports of pilot sightings of UFO's.
www.ufoevidence.org...

-ChriS



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reply to post by internos

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internos, have you checked out this report?

The new analysis concludes:

“In summary, our good fortune in obtaining the original negative … has resulted in confirmation of our earlier speculation that the aerial disc is certainly anomalous. While it may not be inexplicable, it is at least unidentified.”
forgetomori.com...

reply to post by BlasteR

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Thanks BlasteR for the very interesting links! Even if 90% sightings are explainable after pages of analyses , the remainder are inexplicable and therefore point towards the presence of phenomenon beyond our comprehension. But whether these craft are alien in origin or otherwise, it seems there is a lot going on in our skies as well as in space that we're not privy to!

Cheers!






[edit on 17-2-2008 by mikesingh]

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Yes, Mike: the case remains unexplained: and that's a battery of serious analysis. No one has been able to re-create the same effect.

Originally posted by Badge01
The Lago de Cote pic looks strange.

The 'object' is differently pixelated than the surroundings, but the original was reportedly very detailed and a detailed second-generation negative was available for study.

Most researchers note how the top seems to be off shape, and the line of the curve isn't smooth - the border is irregular.

However, upon further investigation this case was studied by Richard Haines and Jacques Vallee. Here's a page that goes into more depth on this one.

Lago de Cote

Oddly, when Vallee ordered the surrounding frames 299 and 301, and the object was not visible on those frames, but the camera was taking pictures about every 17 seconds, so it's possible the object or the area was out of frame by that length of time.

It appears there is even some kind of logo or emblem. I wonder if the military would be prone to put their markings on such an experimental craft.

Finally, though it looks metallic, the reflections on the surface could -possibly- indicate a reflection, though I doubt a photoanalysis camera would be subject to such things.

That particular pic looks like a hoax to me, the Lago de Cote one if you look, unless its just a photo scratch, you can see a straight line come out from it to the side, one thing in photography is you can take a pic of something close up and have it look like its far away.

Originally posted by sarentack
That particular pic looks like a hoax to me, the Lago de Cote one if you look, unless its just a photo scratch, you can see a straight line come out from it to the side, one thing in photography is you can take a pic of something close up and have it look like its far away.

Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica:
New Evidence

Richard F. Haines

There are a number of long linear scratches (mostly on the non emulsion side) running parallel to the edge labelled with the Kodak Safety Film markings running east-west. It is apparent that the negative has received rough usage over the years. There are three very thin parallel scratches running through the image of the disc as well that are visible in Figure 1.

The individual film grains were somewhat more apparent on this original negative throughout all three frames as compared with the second generation negative, as would be expected. They appeared to be randomly spaced and possessed random diameters as well.

Our examination of the original negative confirms our initial speculation that the image of the disc is not the result of a double exposure, a reflection, a deliberate paste-up, or other kind of hoax.

This photographic case is close to perfect. The possibility of a hoax is very small, given the official source. The film, black and white, special for those tasks, is very big, measuring 23 cm x 23 cm, which resulted in an extraordinary clarity

The disc-shaped object remains unidentified.
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www.scientificexploration.org...

Well, I believe a lot of analyses lasting months, have been done on this particular frame, concluding that the object remains unidentified. Your contention of a photographic anomaly is rather simplistic. You mean they hadn't thought of this within the first couple of minutes of their analysis?

Here's another interesting sighting...

David McCune took this photo of a UFO while flying at 37,000 feet
from Atlanta to Kansas City.
Courtesy: Frank Warren

Camera captures unknown object at 37,000 feet.

David McCune just wants to know what’s in the digital photograph that he shot while flying at 37,000 feet over the southern region of the country on a hot July afternoon. He’s bewildered. He can’t help but wonder if it’s a UFO. No matter how much skepticism he provokes.

On July 15, McCune was en route to Kansas City, Mo., from Atlanta for the N.C. Commission on Workforce Development. While in the air, he randomly snapped 20-odd images of some cool-looking cumulus cloud formations with a 10 megapixel Canon digital camera.

Later, his son, David McCune Jr., was bringing up the images on a computer for the first time when he noticed that his father had captured something unusual with that $1,000 camera.

David McCune Jr., who oversees the company’s day-to-day operations, said, “I don’t know what it is. It’s something . If it wasn’t something, it wouldn’t go behind the cloud.”

Someone will scream, "Reflection from the cockpit!!" But then reflections don't go behind clouds!! And this 'reflection' wasn't visible to the naked eye until it was brought up on the computer.

Cheers!

Refs:
www.fayobserver.com...
frankwarren.blogspot.com...

reply to post by mikesingh

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I wish i had the photo he's holding in this one

Image source: UFO AREA

I've found this one on his website,
H E R E :



Too bad i couldn't find further infos about this sighting ...


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Good thread mikesingh, starred and flagged.

Here is some extra info about , The B-57 1954 unseen UFO picture.

ufologie.net...

RUFFREADY mentioned it first.

Originally posted by RUFFREADY

I finally found that picture I mentioned in my previous post. take a look-see

www.ufoevidence.org...

this photo was the first to pop into my mind when this thread started
really cool and natural I thought when I first saw it.

source=ufo evidence.org

There is also stated in that article;

In truth, no photograph, no matter how clear it may be, can be considered evidence of UFO reality without a reliable witness.

And that is exactly the way it is, but it is no definite proof of an Extraterrestrial craft.

So, I think that what Nohup says is also right.

Originally posted by Nohup
I'm not quite sure what we mean by "incontrovertible" here.
Are they photos? Well, I suppose they are.
Are they photos of UFOs? I guess they might be, since they're apparently unidentified.
Are they photos of alien space craft? Eh....

We know UFOs exist. We know there are some photos of them. No controversy there.

But if you mean to imply that these are alien space craft, then it's going to take a lot more than a photo to prove it. You can say, "What else could they possibly be?" But I can trump that with, "I don't know."

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