Amazing UFO Photographs By Pilots! Incontrovertible evidence?

reply to post by Springer

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I agree. I worked in a airport as a kid, and UFOs were never talked about. I worked the private jet area at Tahoe and from 14-17 cant recall hearing about anything about UFOs or strange anything. Other than weather and woman.

reply to post by Kaiser Sohse

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A pilot who has posted a comment to the pics, guessed that the frames in the animation may be reversed: keep in mind that these are stills from a video: it seems that the original video from which the stills have been cropped is still not availabe to the public due to a controversial about the equipment used: the pilot was flying the plane while not on duty and was transporting it as a favor to save the government money, for this reason he claims to be the legitimate owner of the images: he also hired an attorney and wants the video to be released to the public.
There's a note below the photos, that reads:

Credit: Rense
www.rense.com...

This makes me hope that the quality of the video is very good: and so it must be, since he was flying a reconnaisance airplane, with the whole equipment.
Kal Korff bought a copy of the video, but i have no idea if the video is somehow avilable: i couldn't find it.
About the clouds, there's this interesting comment from another pilot, in the same page in which Rense published the article:



Credit: Rense
www.rense.com...

It would be GREAT to find the video, and Kal Korff has a copy of it...


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And here's the vid of that incident taken through FLIR video camera by the pilots...

YouTube Link

Now how the devil can we lay our hands on that vid? Beg, borrow or steal it? I'd prefer the first two options. If that doesn't work, then the third option may be considered!!

Cheers!

[edit on 14-2-2008 by mikesingh]

reply to post by mikesingh

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On Ufologie.net there's a well documented article about it:
The big news Mexican military UFO report of March 5, 2004


It includes:

• Case summary.
  
• Excerpts of 3 crew interview.
  
• Crew conversations in the C-26 plane during the incident.
  
• A report by Rodolfo Garrido Cotham (still in French).
  
• Press briefing.
  
• Secretary of Defense answers some allegations.
  
• The opinion of a FLIR specialist.
  
• The opinion of the deputy-director of the Mexican Weather Service.
  
• Questions and answers.
  
• How the media reported the story.
  
• The instant-explanation craze.
  

Souce: ufologie.net...
it's interesting to read the crew conversations transcript while looking at the video
About Mr. Korff, i'm going to send you his mail address (hoping that it still works) via U2U


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Good set Mike. Flagging-star

I'm wondering how many current pilots carry cams and have shots they will not show until they retire? I know a couple of professional and ex-military who have told me their stories.

One is a pilot for FedEx. He flies the big cargo jets, McDonnell Douglas MD-11(F) aircraft. He told me while at a cruising altitude, him and his crew saw a bright glowing disc rising from the ground coming strait up, and it went into a cloud layer, the cloud lit up like a florescent tube, and it continued out, accelerated strait up and out of site. Everyone in the cabin saw it clearly.

Another friend who was a pilot for oil executives out of Abu Dubi said he saw several UFOs the years he flew there.

Even though these guys where pretty good friends, they did not elaborate details. The atmosphere in the cockpit is much different than the one with management. They might as well be busted for drinking rather than a sighting a UFO for the damage it does to their reputation and flight status. I have great respect for any commercial pilot who tells their story.

I can only imagine the footage from gun military cameras for the last 50 years that's been canned and banned. You know, like Stevenville, they are the first ones on the scene, and pack awesome optics.

I got a DVD last year "UFO Pilot Sightings" 45min.. Netflix did not have it so I paid and ordered it. It is an OK documentary, but Torrentz or other on-line sources have it. Worth having, but would like to see a better production.

ZG



[edit on 2/14/2008 by ZeroGhost]

Thanks for the thread. These are some of the better of ufo pics/evidence that I've seen. Hope to see more as this thread developes and has me getting more interested in the topic again.

I don't know if these ones are the same you're talking about:

UFO pilot sightings 01

UFO pilot sightings 02

UFO pilot sightings 03

UFO pilot sightings 04

UFO pilot sightings 05

reply to post by mikesingh

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Good stuff.
I can only imagine the things that some pilots have seen that haven't been reported.
Once again Mikesingh, you've outdone yourself.
Well done.

Yeah! And this is what I liked most...



Now that's what points to SOLID EVIDENCE of the reality of UFOs. But we've probably got to figure out whether they are alien or otherwise. I think it's more likely alien, as black projects wouldn't be getting so many of their esoteric craft together flying in formation, would they?

Cheers!

My father was in the Airforce for 20+ years, attained the rank of Colonel, and was head of a very important base.

He also flew reconaissance missions in Vietnam.

Sometime in the late seventies (I can't recall exactly when, as I was born in 1974,) he photographed a UFO while flying in a commercial aircraft.
A few other passengers photographed the UFO as well.

He had the pictures developed, and apparently thought they were of very good quality. He gave them to some higher ups at the Pentagon where he was working at the time. He inquired as to what their opinion was on the UFO, and was told "What UFO? You never gave us any pictures."

This was all told to me by my mother, some years later. When I asked my father about it, he would always brush it off, and say "It was nothing."

However, I know it was not "nothing", as my mother said it had quite an effect on him.

As a result of this incident, and some others (which he would never elaborate on,) he came to distrust the government he once held in such high esteem.

His attitude now, is literally, "F-them".

Just sharing my family's experience.

I do not find it likely that the US military had such high-tech flying objects in development in the 70's (The SR-71 not withstanding).

Are they alien?
Are they from the future?
Are they from another dimension?
Are they some sort of disparately evolved terrestrial intelligence?

I have no idea. But I hope to know the truth some day.

Don't forget about the audio from Black Box recorders which in my opinion provide an even better account than a photo. They say a picture is worth a thousand words but when it comes to pics of UFO's, it seems like its the other way around because nowadays, people pass too much off as CGI/Photoshop. Pilot audio is worth more than pics.

Here is one of the threads from the History Channel program

Black Box UFO Secrets



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reply to post by mikesingh

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Sorry to dissapoint you guys but Mexican Pilot Video is debunked already.
See: www.alcione.org...

I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but I believe that there has been discussion and reasonable arguments made explaining the black and white aerial photgraph with the disk as an error.

I don't remember where I saw it, but I think the explanation offered was that those aerial photographs where taken from inside a cabin of an airplane and that the disk shown is actually a reflection of a flash from another camera or light in the window of the aircraft from inside the dark cabin. You know the convex shiny inverted cone that the bulb is surrounded by similiar to a flashlight. It is a reflection of this on the inner window. This accounts for why the disk isn't oval in the way it should be even accounting for perspective. The top looks clipped. This is because the light that is reflecting in the window is tilted forward and not in line with the photograph. The off colored darker portion of the "Disk" could be part of the bulb. Imagine and old flash bulb or flashlight and what the actual bulb is cradled in. now imagine it reflected on an interior window. I could be wrong.

The rest of the evidence looks pretty convincing.

reply to post by Springer

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I was told by a pilot that apparently pilots wont talk about ufos, though most have seen a few, is that there was a pilot who was quite vocal about some objects he thought he'd seen over canada.

Not long after the same pilot crashed, apparently intentionally, into the sea. Right after that every other pilot in the airline who'd talked about UFOs was pulled off duty and given psych evaluations.

These days talking about ufos is the quickest way to lose your wings.

reply to post by internos

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That's it. Oh Crud, I could have saved the money. Great find, it's like being able to give the show to everyone! Thanks

I keep forgetting how much is being put on the video sites. From now on I'll look there first. Live and learn.

Thanks again.

ZG

What concerns me is that such well debunked cases go unnoticed and videos and reports continue to pollute the actual UFO reality record.

A clearing house for such would be a good move toward understanding and convincing others with a cleaned table of real unknowns and active investigations.

ZG

Well, that's kind of what this place does, or can do, anyway. But there's no way to filter out people who are just getting interested in UFOs and coming across these old cases from digging them up again. The best you can do is keep pointing them in the direction of the previous debunking and hope they pick up on it. Some people, unfortunately, will refuse to listen to reason, particularly if it isn't what they want to hear.

reply to post by internos

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does anyone know if the pictures from the last case mentioned, is published anywhere?

reply to post by darkspace

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I think that you mean the sighting by flights Air Shuttle 5959 and Masaba 3179: i've not been able to find the photo so far (and i don't know if it has been released).

There's a thread about it on ATS
Pilot's saw the ORBS over Lake Erie as well!

Here you can find the transcript and the audio (.mp3)

reply to post by internos

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thanks , i'll look into those pages to see if i can find some more info. interesting stuff these recordings.